Well gents the day has arrived. America's future hangs in the balance. What will Americans choose?

[ionel]

9 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Vak and I disagree on some things 

Say it ain't so bro! 

[WrestlingRasta]

Wheezer 

[VakAttack]

Update for @ionel,looks like both amendments are likely to fail, but surprisingly abortion has a better chance.

[Offthemat]

Women are vicious. 

[Lipdrag]

Ballot counts have slowed or stopped in GA, AZ, PA, NV.  Just like 4 years ago.  It is amazing how the count stops with 10% to go . . . 

Right now Harris is losing every single swing state.  Let's see how it is when we wake up.  

Trump up 6 million popular votes with 62% of the vote in.  51.7 million to 45.7 million.

Kammie needs 70% of the remaining vote to get to Joe's Magic Dem number of 81 million.  It beggars belief and mathematics and statistical probability.  Therefore, it probably will happen just like it did for Joe.

Edited November 6 by Lipdrag

[headshuck]

The only thing allows me to go to bed is that the legal community feels like they were blocked from doing their duty in 2020 after the election was certified.

[RockLobster]

2 hours ago, Offthemat said:

Women are vicious. 

Can't argue with that.

[ionel]

Kamala and crew are closing up for the night and getting sleep.  I'd bet Trump is not.  But wasn't there a thread about Trump being exhausted and canceling things?  

[Offthemat]

Joy Reid just blamed kamela losing north carolina on white women who wouldn’t vote for abortion. 

[Caveira]

Jon Stewart is blaming the pollsters right now.     

[billyhoyle]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Jon Stewart is blaming the pollsters right now.     

The polls were basically spot on.  It looks like they were accurate within like 2%. 

Edited November 6 by billyhoyle

[ionel]

1 minute ago, billyhoyle said:

The polls were basically spot on.  It looks like they were accurate within like 2%. 

Iowa?  

[billyhoyle]

2 minutes ago, ionel said:

Iowa?  

That poll was an outlier. There was another Iowa poll with Trump up by like 10 released that same day. 

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, billyhoyle said:

The polls were basically spot on.  It looks like they were accurate within like 2%. 

Subtle.   But left wing media blaming something else….. feels like losing 

[billyhoyle]

Just now, Caveira said:

Subtle.   But left wing media blaming something else….. feels like losing 

The election is over, Trump won. They have to wait to officially call it until they are 99.9% sure, but it's obviously over just like it was over days before they called it 4 years ago. 

Edited November 6 by billyhoyle

[PortaJohn]

3 minutes ago, billyhoyle said:

That poll was an outlier. There was another Iowa poll with Trump up by like 10 released that same day. 

Trust me.  It's not worth defending the polls.  A few of us understand what they are.  People just don't understand.  But, to be fair they missed trends in FL, TX, and VA.  Especially a state like New Jersey

Edited November 6 by PortaJohn

[billyhoyle]

2 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Trust me.  It's not worth defending the polls.  A few of us understand what they are.  People just don't understand.  But, to be fair they missed trends in FL, TX, and VA.  Especially a state like New Jersey

I don't think there was even much polling done in FL, TX, and VA because those states weren't even contested by either candidate. 

[VakAttack]

1 minute ago, PortaJohn said:

Trust me.  It's not worth defending the polls.  A few of us understand what they are.  People just don't understand.  But, to be fair they missed trends in FL, TX, and VA.  Especially a state like New Jersey

Hey, I was just coming here to say that it seems like you nailed this in your earlier analysis. 

[PortaJohn]

Just now, billyhoyle said:

I don't think there was even much polling done in FL, TX, and VA because those states weren't even contested by either candidate. 

Absolutely.  You can also argue against my comment and say it was picked up in National Polls like the NYT poll that showed Trump was doing well nationally.  Point is I've learned a long time ago to ignore poll bashing

[PortaJohn]

1 minute ago, VakAttack said:

Hey, I was just coming here to say that it seems like you nailed this in your earlier analysis. 

I absolutely did.  Have a degree in this.  Although I opted not to work in this field (it's a dirty business) I study it religiously.  Elections are won well before election day.  This race was over the second Biden announced he was running again.  And it was impossible to get people to understand how bad and a god awful politician Kamala is.  Dems had a chance if they would've ran a primary and picked a centrist candidate from the midwest.

[Caveira]

14 minutes ago, billyhoyle said:

The polls were basically spot on.  It looks like they were accurate within like 2%. 

I didn’t want to type.  Not beefing on the polls.   Just that when left ish comedians make jokes Leaning towards Losing I feel it’s getting close.  

[Offthemat]

If Trump wins the popular vote are all those states that signed the National Popular Interstate Vote Compact going to make it a landslide by sending his electors to the count?

[Offthemat]

Donald Trump will be the 47th President of the United States.  

[VakAttack]

How long am I supposed to wait before I start claiming the election was stolen without any evidence as opposed to it just being a result I don't like?

[headshuck]

How long am I supposed to wait before I start claiming the election was stolen without any evidence as opposed to it just being a result I don't like?

You can start anytime. It’s going to be a heavy lift though.