PortaJohn Parity Thread

[Wrestleknownothing]

Without looking....what weight class do you think has had the most parity from 1998 to present? I am defining parity as the most unique winners.

I will post the answer tomorrow.

[PortaJohn]

  On 9/23/2024 at 8:24 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

Without looking....what weight class do you think has had the most parity from 1998 to present? I am defining parity as the most unique winners.

I will post the answer tomorrow.

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I'm rolling with 125

[nhs67]

I said 190/197.

I think we have had more unique/separate multi-time champs at the other weights.

[PortaJohn]

  On 9/23/2024 at 9:29 PM, nhs67 said:

I said 190/197.

I think we have had more unique/separate multi-time champs at the other weights.

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Good chance.  If Yianni and Zain didn't man 149 for a few years that would've been my pick.  I think Metcalf was the only mutli time champ at that weight prior to them

[Gus]

I am rolling with 165 but I do not feel confident about the pick. 

[PortaJohn]

  On 9/23/2024 at 9:51 PM, Gus said:

I am rolling with 165 but I do not feel confident about the pick. 

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Oof - Just off the top of my head I can list these multi time champs at 165- Taylor, Cenzo, KOT, Dierenger, Hendricks, Perry, Imar...Who am I missisng?

Edited September 23, 2024 by PortaJohn

[flyingcement]

I guessed 177/184 but I it was just a hunch - probably wrong

[Gus]

  On 9/23/2024 at 9:56 PM, PortaJohn said:

Oof - Just off the top of my head I can list these multi time champs at 165- Taylor, Cenzo, KOT, Dierenger, Hendricks, Perry, Imar...Who am I missisng?

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Imar's were both at 157. Taylor had 1 at 157, 1 at 165. You can come up with a similar list at most every weight I am sure. When WKN post's the results I think it will be pretty similar across the board. 

[Gus]

  On 9/23/2024 at 9:14 PM, PortaJohn said:

I'm rolling with 125

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I'm gonna give you an oof as well... Haha. Spencer (3), Abas (3), Delgado(2), McD(2), Dubuque(2)

[PortaJohn]

  On 9/23/2024 at 10:04 PM, Gus said:

Imar's were both at 157. Taylor had 1 at 157, 1 at 165. You can come up with a similar list at most every weight I am sure. When WKN post's the results I think it will be pretty similar across the board. 

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You're correct about Imar but Taylor won both his titles at 165

[Gus]

  On 9/23/2024 at 10:07 PM, PortaJohn said:

You're correct about Imar but Taylor won both his titles at 165

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I stand corrected.

[PortaJohn]

  On 9/23/2024 at 10:11 PM, Gus said:

I stand corrected.

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Pritzlaff was the other multi time champ.  Thats 7 champs (14 titles) compared to 125 5 champs (12 titles).   I definitely missed the mark on 125.  I should've gone with my first hunch 149.  I think it's only (7 titles).

[ionel]

Not what I was expecting when saw portajohn parity.  Yes I did open thread even though expecting something disgusting.   

[jross]

142/149 and 150/157

Edited September 23, 2024 by jross
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[juniorvarsity]

Props to this neat thread. Interested to see the numbers.

[1032004]

Why start at 1998?  Wasn’t that the last year of the old weights?  Makes me think it might be someone who also won in 1997 but not 1999 :-).  Which only one would be 141.  (I voted 126/133 but thinking that’s probably wrong).

Edited September 24, 2024 by 1032004

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 9/24/2024 at 3:03 AM, 1032004 said:

Why start at 1998?  Wasn’t that the last year of the old weights?  Makes me think it might be someone who also won in 1997 but not 1999 :-).  Which only one would be 141.  (I voted 126/133 but thinking that’s probably wrong).

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@PortaJohn suggested 1998 to present, and I am a doer not a thinker.

[PortaJohn]

  On 9/24/2024 at 3:03 AM, 1032004 said:

Why start at 1998?  Wasn’t that the last year of the old weights?  Makes me think it might be someone who also won in 1997 but not 1999 :-).  Which only one would be 141.  (I voted 126/133 but thinking that’s probably wrong).

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Did a bad job of requesting the data.  Wanted the data starting from the 1998-1999 season

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 9/24/2024 at 12:12 PM, PortaJohn said:

Did a bad job of requesting the data.  Wanted the data starting from the 1998-1999 season

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The good news is that it makes no difference.

Both 142/149 and 150/157 had 22 unique winners in the 26 season span from 1998 to 2024. That put them 2 up on 190/197. Shorten it by a season and it is a one unique champ lead, but still a lead.

 

You proposed unique champs as the definition of parity (and that is what I polled on), but you can also look at it more broadly through the lens of unique AAs. Viewed this way, 140/149 slides to second behind 167/174 while 150/157 plummets to seventh.

But no matter how you look at it the weight extremes are also the dominance extremes. The heavies have the least amount of parity and the lights are not far behind regardless of whether you are counting unique champs or unique AAs. This, too, is unaffected by the choice of 1998 over 1999 as the start year.

[Wrestleknownothing]

And for fun, here is the list of multi-time winners at each weight in the time period

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

I honestly thought there might be some sort of parody in this thread.

[ionel]

  On 9/24/2024 at 12:58 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I honestly thought there might be some sort of parody in this thread.

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portajohn parody 

[nhs67]

  On 9/24/2024 at 12:51 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

And for fun, here is the list of multi-time winners at each weight in the time period

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Where is Bo Nickal at 184?

[Le duke]

177/184 being the least isn't a surprise. Off the top of my head we have Dean (2), EZ Ed (2), Nickal (2), Cael (3) and AB (3) who all won multiple titles in that time. 

  On 9/24/2024 at 12:51 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

And for fun, here is the list of multi-time winners at each weight in the time period

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Maybe I'm not getting what you're trying to show here but 177/184, for example, is way off. Cael (3), Ed Ruth (2), Nickal (2), Brooks (3) should all be in that group, no?

[Gus]

  On 9/23/2024 at 10:18 PM, PortaJohn said:

Pritzlaff was the other multi time champ.  Thats 7 champs (14 titles) compared to 125 5 champs (12 titles).   I definitely missed the mark on 125.  I should've gone with my first hunch 149.  I think it's only (7 titles).

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Looks like 125 and 165 were equally bad choices!