WrestlingRash Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 for the kids who are pictured on the right hand side of this forum, who have just signed up to be miserable and malnourished for the next 4-5 years of their lives? I was young and dumb and thought I would win NCAAs and got smacked down by reality, just as most of these guys will. Poor guys. Don't tell em. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I don't know... I came up in a time where weight cutting was extremely bad, unhealthy, and rampant. I was one of the few cutting a lot of weight and even to this day as a man closer to 60 than 50 my weight isn't much more than my walk around weight was then. Good genetics, better food, and a lot of rum. These guys on the right? Hopefully they have had their expectations tempered and don't cause themselves too much bodily harm on the way. Student comes before athlete. For ~99% of these guys mind, body, and soul health leads to success more so than pain and suffering does. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npope Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 The self-denial associated with weight loss is a complicated personality trait and (thankfully) many people simply are not emotionally ready to buy-into it. I was one of the extreme weight cutters n HS and college; it wore me out by the time I was done with the sport. But I do remember guys on my teams who couldn't (or wouldn't) engage in significant weight loss and at the time, I felt as though they simply didn't have the "commitment" to the sport or the team that I had; I thought less of them as a competitor/teammate. With the benefit of time and perspective I can now better see the error of my thinking. The absolute worst thing about our sport is (excessive) weight loss. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat92 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I had opportunities to continue my career after HS at some D3 schools, but by the time HS ended I was done. The weight cutting was certainly a factor. I knew a few guys that went to wrestle for those same D3 schools that weren't as successful in HS as I was and they had some moderate success, so looking back I could have been somewhat successful at that level, but my heart was no longer in it and I moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 13 hours ago, WrestlingRash said: for the kids who are pictured on the right hand side of this forum, who have just signed up to be miserable and malnourished for the next 4-5 years of their lives? I was young and dumb and thought I would win NCAAs and got smacked down by reality, just as most of these guys will. Poor guys. Don't tell em. Just because you had a miserable time doesn't mean everybody else will. Weight cutting wasn't fun, but otherwise I enjoyed my college experience, and I wasn't that great. If everyone thought like you then college wrestling would be history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 15 hours ago, WrestlingRash said: for the kids who are pictured on the right hand side of this forum, who have just signed up to be miserable and malnourished for the next 4-5 years of their lives? I was young and dumb and thought I would win NCAAs and got smacked down by reality, just as most of these guys will. Poor guys. Don't tell em. Well one of the guys is 285 and Slack is an undersized 197, so I am not sure it applies to all 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: don't know... I came up in a time where weight cutting was extremely bad, unhealthy, and rampant. I was one of the few cutting a lot of weight Amen.... Preach it brother! Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRash Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, KCMO2 said: Just because you had a miserable time doesn't mean everybody else will. Weight cutting wasn't fun, but otherwise I enjoyed my college experience, and I wasn't that great. If everyone thought like you then college wrestling would be history. Most of my team was burnt out badly. Yes, I see glory in the struggle. The good times are plenty. But, let's not act like its not a living hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino184 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 16 hours ago, WrestlingRash said: for the kids who are pictured on the right hand side of this forum, who have just signed up to be miserable and malnourished for the next 4-5 years of their lives? I was young and dumb and thought I would win NCAAs and got smacked down by reality, just as most of these guys will. Poor guys. Don't tell em. There are certainly down moments in the grind of division one, and I can certainly speak to that considering I wasn't any good. On the other hand, many of the positive aspects of my life stem from the decision I made to attend the university I did and in getting to be teammates going through the ups and downs of college wrestling. I certainly regret aspects of the way I competed and my lack of success on the mat, but I personally don't regret making that commitment and where it has helped me get to in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilton Head Joe Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Totally depends on your past with the sport. Alot but not all fathers who have pushed their kids since the age of 5 and pushed nothing but wrestling, wrestling, wrestling has mixed results from what I have seen. Usually, those kids are the best but I have seen top college prospects all the sudden up and quit the sport their senior years and/or shortly thereafter and move on with life and never look back. Almost all of those type guys do not regret it. Burnt out! And some guys who started in high school and were only moderately pushed and fell in love with the sport apply and who apply to 30 schools and only get one offer. I know a couple of guys like that that are thriving and love every second of it including the weight cutting. They are just thankful to be on a college team! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Maybe they enjoy the sport and want to challenge themselves? Maybe wrestling is a doorway to a college degree? Maybe they feel like they're not done yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manatree Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 The ones that I really feel sorry for are the wrestlers for Johnson-Wales in Rhode Island, home to one of the best culinary schools in the country. Probably the only program that worries about their HWT making weight. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgaveMaria Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Wrestling, football, military. Expectations and reality are not the same. Why not let all of those who try it decide for themselves if it is worth it? For many the answer is yes. ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boconnell Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 6 hours ago, WrestlingRash said: Most of my team was burnt out badly. Yes, I see glory in the struggle. The good times are plenty. But, let's not act like its not a living hell. So people tell you it wasn't a living hell for them and your answer is don't act like it's not a living hell. You really can't accept that it's not the exact same for everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 10 hours ago, Wildcat92 said: I had opportunities to continue my career after HS at some D3 schools, but by the time HS ended I was done. The weight cutting was certainly a factor. I knew a few guys that went to wrestle for those same D3 schools that weren't as successful in HS as I was and they had some moderate success, so looking back I could have been somewhat successful at that level, but my heart was no longer in it and I moved on. very similar experience for me far as being done with it, ops to wrestle at D3 level and maybe how I would have done. ended up going to a school w/ a D1 program (since cut) with no intention of being in the room. wrestled IM and actually got 'recruited' to join the team one year after a really good kid hung up the shoes early. I think the coach thought he might have a regular fft at 118, and probably saw my 'talent' saving the occasional team point or two. I said nope and they ended up with a good replacement anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Rivera put it really eloquently in his bronze medal, post match interview. "I find peace in the sacrifice" 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 8/13/2024 at 7:32 PM, WrestlingRash said: for the kids who are pictured on the right hand side of this forum, who have just signed up to be miserable and malnourished for the next 4-5 years of their lives? I was young and dumb and thought I would win NCAAs and got smacked down by reality, just as most of these guys will. Poor guys. Don't tell em. I have never seen one short post so completely encapsulate the college wrestling experience more than this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletcher Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Gotta shoot your shot. Otherwise spend the rest of your life wondering “what if…” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 The fact that anyone is responding to this topic with anything but contempt is depressing. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) It’s really not that difficult to just quit the team and go to college as not an athlete if you find the experience to be so terrible. When you have 50 states with 2-3 divisions feeding into about 200 total programs in D1/D3, yeah it’s going to be more challenging to start and be an above .500 wrestler than it was in HS. Competing at the NCAA level doesn’t need to be a terrible sacrifice or “suffering.” The training is difficult, but people do CrossFit “for fun.” Some people enjoy training and competing. If you wrap your entire identity around being a great wrestler and find it to be more difficult in college, that is a personal failing of needing some other interests-not a failing of the experience of college wrestling. Edited August 15 by billyhoyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIAA_09 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 One of my biggest regrets is quitting wrestling after 1 year of D1. But i wasn't malnourished, maybe a bit miserable but most of that wasn't from wrestling. It was poor coaches and some home sickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassling Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 21 minutes ago, PIAA_09 said: One of my biggest regrets is quitting wrestling after 1 year of D1. But i wasn't malnourished, maybe a bit miserable but most of that wasn't from wrestling. It was poor coaches and some home sickness. PIAA - isn’t that the wonderful PA organization that sold the viewing rights to our state tourney to FLO… Used to be FREE on local cable for those who couldn’t be at tourney like our proud seniors watching their grandsons from the comfort of their home. A big FU to YOU on behalf of all of us here who refuse to spend 10 cents on any product from PIAA or FLO. Edited August 15 by Rassling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRash Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 20 hours ago, boconnell said: So people tell you it wasn't a living hell for them and your answer is don't act like it's not a living hell. You really can't accept that it's not the exact same for everyone? What is the completion rate for guys who use all their eligibility for wrestling? I've seen some really low numbers in the past. I can accept that some people like it, but the majority are burnt out and just going through the motions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boconnell Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, WrestlingRash said: What is the completion rate for guys who use all their eligibility for wrestling? I've seen some really low numbers in the past. I can accept that some people like it, but the majority are burnt out and just going through the motions. I agree that some people like it and some don't. I am not sure of the percentages. I know I had enough after two years at the lowest level of college wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boconnell Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 4 hours ago, Rassling said: PIAA - isn’t that the wonderful PA organization that sold the viewing rights to our state tourney to FLO… Used to be FREE on local cable for those who couldn’t be at tourney like our proud seniors watching their grandsons from the comfort of their home. A big FU to YOU on behalf of all of us here who refuse to spend 10 cents on any product from PIAA or FLO. How dare they charge money for a product that had value! They should have given it away for free forever because they once did! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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