Its over. Joe Biden is stepping down

[uncle bernard]

15 hours ago, ionel said:

It was obvious from the shooting that Trump scares easily.  He jumped right out of his shoes.  

SCARED. TO. COMPETE.

 

 

[ionel]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

SCARED. TO. COMPETE.

 

 

CNN   

[Bigbrog]

LOL..."They are getting scared"...crack me up

[uncle bernard]

Bottom line: 

Running against a guy who can't remember his own name gave Republicans far too much confidence in this election. He picked a horrible VP who is already floundering and he's still Donald Trump, an 80 year old who barely speaks coherently with extremely high unfavorable who underperforms most other Republicans. 

[uncle bernard]

Just now, Bigbrog said:

LOL..."They are getting scared"...crack me up

Why'd he pull out of the debate?

[ionel]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

Why'd he pull out of the debate?

What debate?  Had it started and he pulled out before walking up to the stage? Where, when was this debate scheduled for?

[Bigbrog]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

Why'd he pull out of the debate?

LOL...he didn't pull out of any debate?  Name the date and time of the debate he pulled out of??  Didn't think you could.

I'll repeat again because some of you like to accuse people of things that aren't true...I do not like Trump....but I hate when people spew false things just because of political reasons...all his campaign said is he will wait until after the DNC.  Which seems like a logic thing to say.

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

LOL...he didn't pull out of any debate?  Name the date and time of the debate he pulled out of??  Didn't think you could.

I'll repeat again because some of you like to accuse people of things that aren't true...I do not like Trump....but I hate when people spew false things just because of political reasons...all his campaign said is he will wait until after the DNC.  Which seems like a logic thing to say.

So uncle B lies just like CNN. 

[Bigbrog]

Just now, ionel said:

So uncle B lies just like CNN. 

LOL...yes he does

[PortaJohn]

17 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Not true. The polls in 2020 were pretty solid and the Republicans underperformed in 2022.

In 2020 the polls were accurate in picking the winners but in 46 of 50 state Trump over performed by an average of 2% points compared to the polls.  So @Paul158 is correct.  Now I'm done

[uncle bernard]

40 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

LOL...he didn't pull out of any debate?  Name the date and time of the debate he pulled out of??  Didn't think you could.

I'll repeat again because some of you like to accuse people of things that aren't true...I do not like Trump....but I hate when people spew false things just because of political reasons...all his campaign said is he will wait until after the DNC.  Which seems like a logic thing to say.

Semantics and cope. He went from agreeing to debate Harris to "well, I'll decide after the DNC." There was a second debate scheduled and he is not committing to that debate.

[mspart]

Harris may not be the candidate.   Should could crater by then just like she always does. 

mspart

[ionel]

7 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Semantics and cope. He went from agreeing to debate Harris to "well, I'll decide after the DNC." There was a second debate scheduled and he is not committing to that debate.

So you admit to lying about him "pulling out of the debate?" 

[Paul158]

57 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

SCARED. TO. COMPETE.

 

 

This is rich coming from CNN/

[uncle bernard]

4 minutes ago, ionel said:

So you admit to lying about him "pulling out of the debate?" 

No, he was committed to debating Biden September 10th on ABC. Now, he has withdrawn his commitment to that debate.

 

56 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

LOL...he didn't pull out of any debate?  Name the date and time of the debate he pulled out of??  Didn't think you could.

 

September 10th on ABC. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

28 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

No, he was committed to debating Biden September 10th on ABC. Now, he has withdrawn his commitment to that debate.

 

September 10th on ABC. 

Yeah, I am with those guys on this one. If Biden is no longer running there no longer is a debate. Once a Democratic nominee is determined with some greater degree of certainty, then I am sure Trump will be raring to go. He has never shied away from going after another candidate. Hell, he is even work shopping nicknames for Harris. Which is such third grade playground bullshit, but his base eats third grade playground shit up. The only thing they like better is second grade playground bullshit.

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

Semantics and cope. He went from agreeing to debate Harris to "well, I'll decide after the DNC." There was a second debate scheduled and he is not committing to that debate.

why debate harris if she isn't the nominee? 

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

No, he was committed to debating Biden September 10th on ABC. Now, he has withdrawn his commitment to that debate.

 

September 10th on ABC. 

oh

so it's really the DNC didn't want Biden to debate.

got it.

[Paul158]

20 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

oh

so it's really the DNC didn't want Biden to debate.

got it.

He could do a Clint Eastwood and debate the chair.

[ThreePointTakedown]

On 7/25/2024 at 1:22 PM, WrestlingRasta said:

Unless it's rape, it's not without consent.

I disagree. 

So you're in favor of punishing someone for choosing to have sex and becoming pregnant? But just one half of them. 

The choice to have sex is not a choice to get or remain pregnant. We know this because some people that want to and would otherwise choose to become pregnant cannot. Some people are not even aware that pregnancy may be a result of sex. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

why debate harris if she isn't the nominee? 

The counterpoint is that she is, like Biden was, the presumptive nominee.

[WrestlingRasta]

33 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

I disagree. 

So you're in favor of punishing someone for choosing to have sex and becoming pregnant? But just one half of them. 

The choice to have sex is not a choice to get or remain pregnant. We know this because some people that want to and would otherwise choose to become pregnant cannot. Some people are not even aware that pregnancy may be a result of sex. 

I guess there in lies the fundamental difference between you and I….you think of it as a punishment.  It is not punishment. It is responsible for your actions.  No matter how you try to slice it, the person (except in the case of rape/sexual abuse) made a decision, a choice. And yes, you (that person) are responsible for the results, whatever they may be, of that choice. In this case it happens to be creating another living being. And yes, you are responsible for the care of that living being, because it is SOLELY there as a result of the choice you made, and can only live, for a period of time, under your direct care, which means….sharing your body. That’s how the fetus develops and grows until it no longer needs your body. There are then procedures for, should you need to or choose to, choose not to care for that being beyond the point that you are the only one on the planet that can. I’m not saying there aren’t scenarios in which I’m okay/for abortion.  I’m saying this argument of punishment and without consent is just……bullshit. 
 

Let me ask you this, and I would appreciate a direct answer without dancing around or moving the goal posts. Who in this scenario had more of a choice…the living being that created the action, or the living being that was the result?  

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Some people are not even aware that pregnancy may be a result of sex. 

lol

RL? 

[Scouts Honor]

 

[ThreePointTakedown]

On 7/24/2024 at 5:05 PM, Paul158 said:

What if the people who are sexually active and don't want to get pregnant make a responsible choice and use one of the many different types of birth control. There are dozens of safe birth control options. Birth control pills (1960) condoms (1850) these have been around a long time. So, is it lack of education, lazy or just irresponsible? MOST OF THESE ITEMS ARE FREE. I'm going to take cover now for the incoming barrage. I'm not talking about incest or rape or medical difficulties with the mother or the baby. That is a different conversation altogether.

"So its lack of education, lazy, or irresponsible.' Was that you making a broad and false generalization about a group of people? Yes. 

'MOST OF THESE ITEMS ARE FREE'. So what? Some people still don't have them available, but for some reason you feel that might make them irresponsible, lazy, or uneducated. Seems a bit more like how someone could come by this opinion; irresponsible, lazy, and/or uneducated. 

'I'm not talking about incest or rape or medical difficulties with the mother or the baby' That was you insinuating abortion. So you did bring it up. Regardless of whether you think so. 

On 7/25/2024 at 10:34 AM, Paul158 said:

Did you happen to skip the part about using birth control methods that have been around for over 174 years. Did you skip the part when I asked why smart, intelligent people don't use the available birth control products. Is it lack of education, laziness or just irresponsible.  I don't think I mentioned abortion whether right or wrong. Please show me. I'm serious. Show me.

Nope. But you did dodge my question to determine if you have a base level of information on this subject. 

On 7/25/2024 at 10:46 AM, Paul158 said:

I will correct you. I'm not making a moral argument. Please reread what I wrote. I never mentioned abortion, nor did I imply abortion. I talked about birth control that is available to everyone for free in many instances. It has been around since the first condoms were available in the 1850;s. 

You did mention abortion as I stated before. But since you have no other reason to oppose abortion it does mean you have a moral objection. You have a standard that disqualify people from accessing health care, in your mind. 

On 7/25/2024 at 2:23 PM, Paul158 said:

I'm a father of 5 children.  I have 4 daughters and 1 son. All are married and have 3 children each. I have 10 granddaughters and 5 grandsons. Do you think I am aware that birth control methods are not 100%. I cleared laid out what this discussion is about. I'm not going to be distracted with your desire to move the goal posts. 

Oversharing way of answering a simple question that you could have done two posts ago. 

So again, what if someone does use any or all of those methods of birth control and still do get pregnant? What then? Do you have a suggestion or just condemnation?