AgaveMaria Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Will it be a repeat of Spencer Lee? Top guy who was given all the attention in the world, got injured and still performed until he fell short his final season? In many ways viewed as a Prima Donna and a divisive presence in the room - no matter how good he was on the mat. Bassett is good and Iowa would benefit. But, can the Double Trouble twins actually help him raise his game? Or will they train him into the mat, wear him out and put all their marbles in one guy at the expense of the team? Spencer Lee was excellent, no doubt about it. Iowa did him no favors as they did not surround him with similar talent. They tried but couldn't get the top guys in the room. If Bassett shows up will it be more of the same? ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Bro, pass the pipe. Jk I don't do drugs but seriously, what has been up with your posts lately? Things so boring at home that you have to stir up bad faith arguments online? It doesn't take much effort at all to find interviews online of some combination of spencer, his dad, teammates, or coaches, to realize that nothing you said is true (of Spencer). That being said, I can definitely envision Bassett being drawn to Iowa precisely because he would be perceived as the top dog - - including the financial incentives that would entail. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildTurk Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Prima Donna and divisive presence? Yikes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Never heard of either of them being a “divisive presence or prima Donna.” Lee didn’t really “get injured,” he already was injured coming in. AFAIK Bassett does not have Lee’s pre-college injury history but he’s not graduated yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Smart Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Why would he go to Iowa when there are so many wrestling rooms that are better and closer to home. Lehigh, Cornell, and everyone's favorite team on this forum. David Taylor and Oklahoma State have a better shot if he leaves the state. It's laughable to be gaslighted by the repeated "the Iowa wrestling room is so tough that they beat each other up and are either injured or out of gas going into March." Pretty sure wrestling rooms are aggressive. Iron sharpens iron not weakens it. Other programs are getting better with solid recruiting, not NIL money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, Maxwell Smart said: Why would he go to Iowa when there are so many wrestling rooms that are better and closer to home. Lehigh, Cornell, and everyone's favorite team on this forum. David Taylor and Oklahoma State have a better shot if he leaves the state. It's laughable to be gaslighted by the repeated "the Iowa wrestling room is so tough that they beat each other up and are either injured or out of gas going into March." Pretty sure wrestling rooms are aggressive. Iron sharpens iron not weakens it. Other programs are getting better with solid recruiting, not NIL money. Some reasons: CHA is arguably the best environment to compete in and at Iowa he can be known to more than just wrestling fans His club coach went there Spencer Lee Yes, NIL money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Smart Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 His club coach does a great job. Time will tell, he certainly can go where he chooses. CHA is certainly a great venue but OK State, PSU, and others get raucous also. Don't know what was meant by "at Iowa he can be known to more than just wrestling fans." His style looks more Messenbrink than Lee, although Spencer is held in high regard in the area. Everyone has NIL money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieDave87 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 hours ago, 1032004 said: Never heard of either of them being a “divisive presence or prima Donna.” Lee didn’t really “get injured,” he already was injured coming in. AFAIK Bassett does not have Lee’s pre-college injury history but he’s not graduated yet I don't know the exact verbiage but there were definitely people saying Spencer got special treatment and he was not a great teammate to Ayala. Mostly uninformed as Spencer wasn't really practicing he was more just rehabbing the whole time. He had one incident with Ayala. If that's special treatment and being a prima donna, sure, but he needed it to get on the mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 26 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said: I don't know the exact verbiage but there were definitely people saying Spencer got special treatment and he was not a great teammate to Ayala. Mostly uninformed as Spencer wasn't really practicing he was more just rehabbing the whole time. He had one incident with Ayala. If that's special treatment and being a prima donna, sure, but he needed it to get on the mat. many of these high level guys are trash teammates. Even at PSU! Edited July 7 by Hammerlock3 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, HokieDave87 said: I don't know the exact verbiage but there were definitely people saying Spencer got special treatment and he was not a great teammate to Ayala. Mostly uninformed as Spencer wasn't really practicing he was more just rehabbing the whole time. He had one incident with Ayala. If that's special treatment and being a prima donna, sure, but he needed it to get on the mat. People = Ayala’s mom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Maxwell Smart said: His club coach does a great job. Time will tell, he certainly can go where he chooses. CHA is certainly a great venue but OK State, PSU, and others get raucous also. Don't know what was meant by "at Iowa he can be known to more than just wrestling fans." His style looks more Messenbrink than Lee, although Spencer is held in high regard in the area. Everyone has NIL money. In Iowa wrestling is so big that wrestling stars are much more of “celebrities” than they are other places. Iowa also seems to be offering the most NIL money of late… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 At Iowa Spencer Lee just made the Olympic Team, he won a team title and had a great shot at two if not for a completely unforeseeable circumstance. As has been stated, he also had injury issues before he went to Iowa. The OP also conflicts: did they run him into the ground at Iowa or did he get special treatment? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletcher Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Bassett's ceiling in college is low AA regardless of school. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 30 minutes ago, Fletcher said: Bassett's ceiling in college is low AA regardless of school. he's better than chittum "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieDave87 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 11 hours ago, 1032004 said: People = Ayala’s mom Agree but anti-Iowa people took it and ran with it so it was talked about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieDave87 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 11 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: many of these high level guys are trash teammates. Even at PSU! PSU, Cornell, and Michigan all have rooms that lift each other up for the most part and they finished top 3. You can find bad teammates but more often than not top notch guys are leaders in the room IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 15 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said: PSU, Cornell, and Michigan all have rooms that lift each other up for the most part and they finished top 3. You can find bad teammates but more often than not top notch guys are leaders in the room IMO ....a dozen questions but what do you mean by leader? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieDave87 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 7 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: ....a dozen questions but what do you mean by leader? Makes others in the room better. Doesn't have to be vocal but shows younger guys the right way to do things and younger teammates with lofty goals learn from them would be a good example. Could also be a vocal guy who pushes others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRound Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 14 hours ago, Fletcher said: Bassett's ceiling in college is low AA regardless of school. Gotta throw my respect towards any person who puts the dumbest take in a thread, especially one like this. Just wondering what makes you think this though if it's a legit thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 14 hours ago, Fletcher said: Bassett's ceiling in college is low AA regardless of school. I think his floor if he were in college next season would be low AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 16 hours ago, Fletcher said: Bassett's ceiling in college is low AA regardless of school. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and suppose that you meant his floor rather than ceiling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletcher Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 29 minutes ago, Gus said: I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and suppose that you meant his floor rather than ceiling. I said what I said. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 6 minutes ago, Fletcher said: I said what I said. I'm interested in why you think that? He's having success now against senior level opposition, and dominating age level (not just grade level). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 16 hours ago, Fletcher said: Bassett's ceiling in college is low AA regardless of school. By low do you mean 1/2 or 7/8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 4 hours ago, HokieDave87 said: Makes others in the room better. Doesn't have to be vocal but shows younger guys the right way to do things and younger teammates with lofty goals learn from them would be a good example. Could also be a vocal guy who pushes others. so if you train hard and aren't actively trying to abuse your teammates on a personal level you're a leader? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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