Hammerlock3 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Can someone mention some guys who weren't state champs or were underwhelming in high school but won NCAAs? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu1979 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 3 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: Can someone mention some guys who weren't state champs or were underwhelming in high school but won NCAAs? The greatest example is Bruce Baumgartner - never won the state title in NJ but won NCAAs (3X finalist) and became one of the greatest heavyweights ever in FS. Also I believe both Keith Gavin and Pat Santoro would qualify. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Drew Foster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Stephen Neal is another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) Uetake Edited May 19 by jchapman 1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 PA has a ton of guys that fall into this category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 13 minutes ago, lu_alum said: PA has a ton of guys that fall into this category. ok who 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: ok who Building the spreadsheet now. give me 20 minutes to complete it. I'll only do D1 today, but can build our DII & DIII (including the breakout of NCAA "College" division) later. Edited May 19 by lu_alum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 4 minutes ago, lu_alum said: Building the spreadsheet now. give me 20 minutes to complete it. I'll only do D1 today, but can build our DII & DIII (including the breakout of NCAA "College" division) later. oh thanks "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) Here's the list. PA has had 90 wrestlers win 125 individual NCAA Division I titles. Within the list of 90 PA NCAA titlists, 33 guys compiled 40 NCAA Division I titles - but never won a PIAA HS championship. Some on the list were National Prep champs. The National Prep list includes Prep titles by Ed Ruth (who transferred to Blair Academy for his SR year), but it does not include Pat Santoro (who won a National Prep title during a post-grad year at Blair prior to enrolling at Pitt). Edited May 19 by lu_alum 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said: ok who Ed Ruth I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Caught a small error on my previous post. Greg Ruth won his 2nd title at 160 lbs, after winning the prior year at 167 lbs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 District XI well represented there - thanks for the info @lu_alum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) 6 minutes ago, lu_alum said: Caught a small error on my previous post. Greg Ruth won his 2nd title at 160 lbs, after winning the prior year at 167 lbs. Bosak lost his jr year I think to one of the Nelson twins and senior year to Jake Kemerer. Both were studs Edited May 19 by PortaJohn I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu_alum Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 21 minutes ago, flyingcement said: District XI well represented there - thanks for the info @lu_alum I just posted the list of non-PIAA guys. Here's the full District XI list of NCAA champs (including the Lieberman brothers)... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 54 minutes ago, lu_alum said: I just posted the list of non-PIAA guys. Here's the full District XI list of NCAA champs (including the Lieberman brothers)... Thank you sir! How cool was it that Darian Cruz and Ethan Lizak faced each other in the VEWL (elementary league) finals representing their local teams. And then again in the NCAA finals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Stephen Neal was a 4 time AA with 2 NCAA titles and never finished higher than 4th in California HS. There was a guy who finished 5th in California that won an NCAA title for , I think, Cal Davis but I can't remember his name off the top of my head. That was nearly 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 6 minutes ago, NM1965 said: Stephen Neal was a 4 time AA with 2 NCAA titles and never finished higher than 4th in California HS. There was a guy who finished 5th in California that won an NCAA title for , I think, Cal Davis but I can't remember his name off the top of my head. That was nearly 20 years ago. derek moore? 3 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM1965 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 50 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: derek moore? Yeah, him! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 5 hours ago, lu1979 said: The greatest example is Bruce Baumgartner - never won the state title in NJ but won NCAAs (3X finalist) and became one of the greatest heavyweights ever in FS. Also I believe both Keith Gavin and Pat Santoro would qualify. Baumgartner is the only jersey one I can think of…Tanelli was close 2nd and 3rd in HS and 3rd in college but can’t find any others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Melvin Clodfelter . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 6 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: Can someone mention some guys who weren't state champs or were underwhelming in high school but won NCAAs? Chuck Yagla was a state runnerup in high school (Waterloo Columbus), was a Junior National Champion and went on to win two NCAA titles, was OW his senior year, made the '80 Olympic team and had much more success that just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, ionel said: Melvin Clodfelter I'm extremely shocked you didn't say Yojiro Uetake I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I'm extremely shocked you didn't say Yojiro UetakeSomeone else did. 3 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I'm extremely shocked you didn't say Yojiro Uetake Someone already got him and everyone knows about him. I went with one no one else (even knownothing) would ever think of. Edited May 20 by ionel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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