What is next for everyone at Sunkist

[juniorvarsity]

Sunkist is ending(or has ended). So what is next for everyone in Arizona? Does Mark Perry have a job? He is not on staff at ASU. Maybe I missed something. And also, what happens to all the wrestlers? Is something else(RTC) being stood up in place of Sunkist

[nhs67]

Hopefully Zeke and ASU made plans for after.  If so we will get some sort of announcement that SWRTC or ARTC or some other RTC has 'formed' there pretty soon.

[1032004]

Did they practice on ASU’s campus?

[mspart]

We had a wrestler in HS that went to ASU.   I was in town on business and decided to go visit.   They had both college folks and Sunkist folks there.    I don't think they were practicing together but my impression was that the club practiced in the ASU wrestling room. 

mspart

[juniorvarsity]

Looks like nothing has been announced.

[mspart]

Further to my previous post, Nashon Garrett was there working out.   He said hi to me.   The coaches were very kind to me after they found out what I wanted.   Zeke introduced me to Nashon and Lee Pritts.   They were all very kind and effusive about the HS kid.   I don't remember seeing Zahid.   The HS kid I was visiting was varsity for awhile.   Then Zahid came and that ended that.   

mspart

[billyhoyle]

End of an era. We are lucky with what Art Martori invested into the sport, especially before the RTC model took shape and it seemed like all the top guys were relying on Sunkist. Not to mention saving the ASU program. A true friend of the sport and USA wrestling. 

Edited May 4 by billyhoyle

[wrestle87]

Hopefully we see a Sun Devil RTC popping up, minus mr jungle nose candy and mr grabby grabs.

I hope zeke is a nice coach, but that dude is also an undeniable enabler.

[Husker U]

On 5/6/2024 at 12:32 AM, wrestle87 said:

Hopefully we see a Sun Devil RTC popping up, minus mr jungle nose candy and mr grabby grabs.

I hope zeke is a nice coach, but that dude is also an undeniable enabler.

Zeke is a very nice guy, but would you care to elaborate on your undeniable enabler comment?  I'm not attacking you for saying that, but I'm curious as to why you would say it.  

[wrestle87]

1 hour ago, Husker U said:

Zeke is a very nice guy, but would you care to elaborate on your undeniable enabler comment?  I'm not attacking you for saying that, but I'm curious as to why you would say it.  

Coaches come in different types, disciplinarians, older brothers/uncles, hands off “that’s his problem” businessmen coaches, and coaches constantly patching up and covering up for their athletes when they do dumb stuff.

The best wrestler to come out of ASU in the past couple decades has a documented baking soda problem.  So much so that the AD took action, instead of the Head Coach himself.  This is an AD at a school which often contends for the title of the biggest party school in the country.  The bar for “moving the needle” on remarkable behavior is very high at ASU.

There is no way you can be a coach and not know about things like “illicit habits”  about your athletes.  Dudes on the team just talk too much, you spend too much time together, especially when it is your program’s star athlete.  Those relationships are 10x closer than with the backups.  

For an AD to step in and do something, making the announcement, etc. instead of Zeke, is a reflection of a dynamic that is a coach trying to protect his best kid in the short term (for personal gain), rather than help him in the long term.

Both in High School and college I had coaches who would bend over backwards to patch up, humor, or cater to the “favorite son” on the team.  It ruined team chemistry, and ultimately was pretty bad for the wrestler too.

[lisa morales]

Let me ask my friend Kari Lake, she's usually very helpful with these types of things.

[1032004]

https://atreuswrestlingrtc.com
 

Coaches listed:  Jones, Pritts, Molinaro, Thompson.  Perry not listed.

Athletes: Zahid, McGee, Figueroa, Courtney, Schultz, Kaleb Larkin, Fayzullaev, 

No more female wrestlers?

[forkemaz]

I was going to say as an Arizona wrestling fan i was very nervous but this last post is heartening. Glad to see Perry gone, I have a daughter.

[1032004]

1 hour ago, forkemaz said:

I was going to say as an Arizona wrestling fan i was very nervous but this last post is heartening. Glad to see Perry gone, I have a daughter.

What about the women wrestlers though?  Is it Perry’s fault they don’t appear to have any anymore?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

10 hours ago, 1032004 said:

What about the women wrestlers though?  Is it Perry’s fault they don’t appear to have any anymore?

Yes, apparently

Edited September 1 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[forkemaz]

10 hours ago, 1032004 said:

What about the women wrestlers though?  Is it Perry’s fault they don’t appear to have any anymore?

Hopefully as the RTC gets its footing they will add womens wrestling.

[forkemaz]

Also the name is corny. Why do we always pick the worst names for stuff? Rudis is another corny name.

[MPhillips]

1 hour ago, forkemaz said:

Also the name is corny. Why do we always pick the worst names for stuff? Rudis is another corny name.

You call yourself, 'forkemaz'...

[CHROMEBIRD]

4 hours ago, forkemaz said:

Also the name is corny. Why do we always pick the worst names for stuff? Rudis is another corny name.

Yeah, it's kind of odd that they named the RTC Atreus instead of something that might you know, borrow from ASU's brand equity while also boosting it. Why not Sun Devils WC? 

The same goes for Rising Sun WC, which also trains out of the ASU room. I get the logic behind the name, but it also sounds like it's related to Japan? Or located somewhere out east?

[1032004]

6 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Yes, apparently

If so, I feel like this should be a bigger story and I have a lot of questions that probably won’t be answered

Did he have anything to do with why Martori stopped funding it in the first place and/or why they changed the name?

Did he have anything to do with why the Helen documentary disappeared after one day?   (I was one of the probably tens of people that saw it and he was featured fairly prominently in it IIRC)

Have any of the women commented on this situation?

Wasn’t Perry at the Olympics?

Have any of the bigger name women besides Blades announced they were going elsewhere?  Seems like a pretty big deal for the best women’s club by far (four of the six Olympians had it listed as one of their clubs, three of which had only Sunkist listed) to go poof.

 

 

[forkemaz]

7 hours ago, MPhillips said:

You call yourself, 'forkemaz'...

Are you saying you find that corny?

[forkemaz]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

If so, I feel like this should be a bigger story and I have a lot of questions that probably won’t be answered

Did he have anything to do with why Martori stopped funding it in the first place and/or why they changed the name?

Did he have anything to do with why the Helen documentary disappeared after one day?   (I was one of the probably tens of people that saw it and he was featured fairly prominently in it IIRC)

Have any of the women commented on this situation?

Wasn’t Perry at the Olympics?

Have any of the bigger name women besides Blades announced they were going elsewhere?  Seems like a pretty big deal for the best women’s club by far (four of the six Olympians had it listed as one of their clubs, three of which had only Sunkist listed) to go poof.

 

 

I cant answer most of that but in his farewell interview Martori basically said he just wants to focus on his family with whatever time he has left. He sounded like a man who felt he fufilled his purpose (and thensome in my opinion). I think if anything it was more seeing NIL and the money coming into wrestling that made him feel like he had done enough. 

 

[Hammerlock3]

Can someone explain what losing sunkist means? My assumption is that it means someone stopped giving a lot of money.

[forkemaz]

14 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Can someone explain what losing sunkist means? My assumption is that it means someone stopped giving a lot of money.

The man who founded and basically funded all of it retired. (Art Martori) He also bailed out ASU wrestling when it was on the chopping block. 

 

The very little inside information I have told me he had been telling them this was coming for years and he felt no one was in a position to take over and run the program to his standard, rather than hand over the reigns to someone in the program he felt wouldnt do it justice he chose to kill it entirely upon his retirement. 

[Hammerlock3]

2 minutes ago, forkemaz said:

The man who founded and basically funded all of it retired. (Art Martori) He also bailed out ASU wrestling when it was on the chopping block. 

 

The very little inside information I have told me he had been telling them this was coming for years and he felt no one was in a position to take over and run the program to his standard, rather than hand over the reigns to someone in the program he felt wouldnt do it justice he chose to kill it entirely upon his retirement. 

thanks