Antitroll2828 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 6 hours ago, PortaJohn said: Alex Meade should've been the guy. A classic "what if" wrestler Didn’t seem like a what If guy when he took me down 7-8 times in one match
gimpeltf Posted February 20 Posted February 20 2 hours ago, PortaJohn said: Depends how we want to define "best ever". College, absolutely not (Mike Caruso 3 timer) (Mocco 2x champ 4x finalist). International you can definitely argue he has a slight edge over Bruce with more titles even though Bruce has more medals (only counting Olympics/Worlds) Burley same college credentials as Mocco. 2
gimpeltf Posted February 20 Posted February 20 2 hours ago, Major Kong said: That's "Vermontster" of course. I tried to have McGonagle called the New Hampster. Didn't work out for some reason. 5
The_KC_Godfather Posted February 20 Posted February 20 7 hours ago, KLCarnegieTech_1969 said: Henson was a phenomenal high school wrestler. He should be in conversation. 3X NCAA Champ? Not sure. Yes, he was unbelievable. 2x NCAA champ at Clemson and won a world title. I have to put J’Den ahead of him though based on J’Den’s 3 NCAA titles and 2 world titles. Interesting, though, that Sammie was the assistant at Mizzou when J’Den was an incoming freshman. As soon as they were able to start practicing during the summer, Sammie was working with J’Den on his top game, getting him ready to win a natty as a true freshman. If we’re looking at whole body of work, it has to be J’Den. If just high school, we’d have to look at Schatzman and Eierman as the only undefeated 4-timers. 1
Jim L Posted February 20 Posted February 20 3 hours ago, PortaJohn said: Going to step in as an ambassador for a few states Hawaii Travis Lee Vermont Robert Hamlin Louisiana Daniel Cormier Tennesse Jordan Leen New Mexico Joe Puerta New Hampshire Connor McGonagle??? Oregon Louden Swain New Hampshire's best is probably Eric Bradley who won 2X Big Ten title ands was 2X AA (4th and 8th) for Penn State in the 2000s 1
NewYooper Posted February 20 Posted February 20 For South Dakota - already mentioned: Randy Lewis Lincoln Mac Jim and Bill Scherr Some high school greats: Logan Storley 6 titles Kirk Wallman 6 titles (his dad Gary "Smokey" also won 4 as did his brother Troy and brother Cory) not quite the Peery's from Oklahoma, but better than my family... Gary AAed twice at Iowa State. I think one of the boys AAed at Iowa State and one at Wisconsin. Lincoln Mac 5 titles 2
Fadzaev2 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 I haven't seen Michigan mentioned yet, and I'm not sure there is a definitive criteria, so I'll throw out some names and not in any order... Andre Metzger 2 time NCAA Champion 3 time All American World Silver Medalist World Championships S B B Chris Taylor 2 time NCAA Champion Olympic Bronze Medalist Mark Churella 3 time NCAA Champion one of the first 4 time all americans. 3-1-1-1 Originator/Director of the Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational Steve Fraser 2 time All American America's first Olympic Gold Medalist in GR Wrestling Jimmy Jackson 3 time NCAA Champion Brent Metcalf 2 Time NCAA Champion/3 time finalist 4 time state champion/4 state championship teams Jarrett Hubbard 2 Time NCAA Champion the second ever 4 time all american Greg Johnson 3 Time NCAA Champion 2
11986 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 3 hours ago, Wrestej said: Sammy lost to the Purler brothers (Tony and Nick) every time they wrestled in high school. Wentzville school (Purlers) was in a different class from Francis Howell (Henson), otherwise Sammy might have never won a state championship in high school. Reason I have both Nick and Tony listed is because they alternated who wrestled Henson through out high school. didn't know that history with the Purler brothers, thanks
pokemonster Posted February 20 Posted February 20 South Carolina - TJ Dudley of Nebraska. Dude never even stepped on a mat until 8th grade.
11986 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 23 minutes ago, Fadzaev2 said: I haven't seen Michigan mentioned yet, and I'm not sure there is a definitive criteria, so I'll throw out some names and not in any order... Andre Metzger 2 time NCAA Champion 3 time All American World Silver Medalist World Championships S B B Chris Taylor 2 time NCAA Champion Olympic Bronze Medalist Mark Churella 3 time NCAA Champion one of the first 4 time all americans. 3-1-1-1 Originator/Director of the Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational Steve Fraser 2 time All American America's first Olympic Gold Medalist in GR Wrestling Jimmy Jackson 3 time NCAA Champion Brent Metcalf 2 Time NCAA Champion/3 time finalist 4 time state champion/4 state championship teams Jarrett Hubbard 2 Time NCAA Champion the second ever 4 time all american Greg Johnson 3 Time NCAA Champion Metzger was a 4 time AA. and another to add to the list based on international success is Kevin Jackson - Olympic gold, I think 2 world golds as well. college not too bad either (4x AA?) but never a champ.
tiger-style Posted February 21 Posted February 21 2 hours ago, The_KC_Godfather said: Yes, he was unbelievable. 2x NCAA champ at Clemson and won a world title. I have to put J’Den ahead of him though based on J’Den’s 3 NCAA titles and 2 world titles. Interesting, though, that Sammie was the assistant at Mizzou when J’Den was an incoming freshman. As soon as they were able to start practicing during the summer, Sammie was working with J’Den on his top game, getting him ready to win a natty as a true freshman. If we’re looking at whole body of work, it has to be J’Den. If just high school, we’d have to look at Schatzman and Eierman as the only undefeated 4-timers. I remember in high school the best wrestler on our team lost in the finals to J'Den. I was so confused how a freshman beat this senior who I thought was unstoppable. In hindsight the loss makes so much more sense. 1
ionel Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Since we seem to be bending the rules. Oklahoma: Uetake - all time GOAT, he called Stillwater home for 5 to 6 years. backup John Smith - US International GOAT 1 .
jross Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Melvin Douglas >>> 2xNC-D1 | 4xAA-D1 | 1x World Champ | 6x World Team Member | 2x Olympian Myron Roderick >>> 3xNC-D1 | Olympian Eric Akin >>> 4xAA-D1 | 3x World Team Member Peter Merhinger >>> 1x Olympic Champion while a sophomore in college. Kendrick Maple >>> 1xNC-D1 | 3xAA-D1 Zach Roberson >>> 1xNC-D1 | 3xAA-D1 Tyler Caldwell >>> 4xAA-D1 Eric Luedke >>> 2xNC-NJCAA | 2xAA-D1 Temoer Terry >>> 3xAA-D1 Tanner Gardner >>> 3xAA-D1 Shawn Bunch >>> 2xAA-D1, Pan Am Champ, 1x World Team Member This state without D1 opportunities is Kansas. 1
Offthemat Posted February 21 Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, jross said: Melvin Douglas >>> 2xNC-D1 | 4xAA-D1 | 1x World Champ | 6x World Team Member | 2x Olympian Myron Roderick >>> 3xNC-D1 | Olympian Eric Akin >>> 4xAA-D1 | 3x World Team Member Peter Merhinger >>> 1x Olympic Champion while a sophomore in college. Kendrick Maple >>> 1xNC-D1 | 3xAA-D1 Zach Roberson >>> 1xNC-D1 | 3xAA-D1 Tyler Caldwell >>> 4xAA-D1 Eric Luedke >>> 2xNC-NJCAA | 2xAA-D1 Temoer Terry >>> 3xAA-D1 Tanner Gardner >>> 3xAA-D1 Shawn Bunch >>> 2xAA-D1, Pan Am Champ, 1x World Team Member This state without D1 opportunities is Kansas. Caldwell’s from Kansas isn’t he?
jross Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 minute ago, Offthemat said: Caldwell’s from Kansas isn’t he? Yes - https://nwhof.org/national-wrestling-hall-of-fame/champions-database?wrestler=2988&tab=aa 1
MizzouFan01 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 hours ago, The_KC_Godfather said: Yes, he was unbelievable. 2x NCAA champ at Clemson and won a world title. I have to put J’Den ahead of him though based on J’Den’s 3 NCAA titles and 2 world titles. Interesting, though, that Sammie was the assistant at Mizzou when J’Den was an incoming freshman. As soon as they were able to start practicing during the summer, Sammie was working with J’Den on his top game, getting him ready to win a natty as a true freshman. If we’re looking at whole body of work, it has to be J’Den. If just high school, we’d have to look at Schatzman and Eierman as the only undefeated 4-timers. Jeremiah Reno Liberty was also undefeated 4x. Although is college and post college career aren’t great, TJ Hill is arguably the best MO HIGH school wrestler. It’s between him and Schatzman in my book. Hill has more Fargo medals than any MO wrestler including the most championships 1
MizzouFan01 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 2 hours ago, 11986 said: didn't know that history with the Purler brothers, thanks The GAC conference has produced some of MO’s best wrestlers. Henson took 5th as freshman I believe at state. After the first year didn’t he stay away from the Purlers by staying a weight or two below them?
ionel Posted February 21 Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: Gable You probably need to be more specific. .
JimmyBT Posted February 21 Posted February 21 27 minutes ago, ionel said: You probably need to be more specific. Why? What if I lived in both of those states ??
flyingcement Posted February 21 Posted February 21 4 minutes ago, JimmyBT said: Why? What if I lived in both of those states ?? Dan Gable - Iowa Gable Steveson - Indiana, Minnesota Robert Louis Stevenson - Scotland
JimmyBT Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 minute ago, flyingcement said: Dan Gable - Iowa Gable Steveson - Indiana, Minnesota Robert Louis Stevenson - Scotland 1
bnwtwg Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, MizzouFan01 said: Jeremiah Reno Liberty was also undefeated 4x. Although is college and post college career aren’t great, TJ Hill is arguably the best MO HIGH school wrestler. It’s between him and Schatzman in my book. Hill has more Fargo medals than any MO wrestler including the most championships Hill didn't run into Kyle Snyder and trade titles with him at Fargo. I'd give the nod to Cox. i am an idiot on the internet
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