ThreePointTakedown Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Offthemat said: You are falling for garbage journalism and data. A quick explanation: Illegals work for cheaper wages than legal workers, therefore any collections from their wages are less than what would be paid by workers making higher wages. There are many programs that allow illegals to receive benefits, and many have work-arounds that enable them to collect benefits dishonestly. As for jobs Americans won’t do, a study done a few years ago showed that not one single job category was filled by more illegals than legals. Not one. What is factually correct is that their presence and their occupation in the workforce, is detrimental to the strength of the economy, and the wages of legal lower and middle wage workers. They may be beneficial to the chamber of commerce, but they are a net drain on the country. Your sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/spike-number-illegal-chinese-immigrants-becoming-us-national-security-issue more quality people coming in. National Security threat. But hey according to some it’s good for America. Smfh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 6 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said: No problem. https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/facts-not-fear-how-welcoming-immigrants-benefits-new-york-city/#:~:text=Although they are ineligible for,%2C state%2C and federal taxes. Quoted from the piece. Undocumented immigrants[10] support economic growth, pay taxes, and keep our city and economy running as essential workers. Although they are ineligible for Social Security, Medicaid, and most public benefits, undocumented immigrants help sustain[11] these vital entitlement programs by contributing billions of dollars into Social Security[12] and billions more into local, state, and federal taxes. In 2021, undocumented immigrants contributed[13] $30.8 billion in total taxes nationally, including $18.6 billion in federal income taxes and $12.2 billion in state and local taxes. In New York State, undocumented immigrants paid[14] $3 billion in taxes. Undocumented immigrants make up approximately 3.2 percent of the U.S. population, but 4 percent[15] of the country’s workforce. Undocumented immigrants are the backbone of many vital industries across New York. 70% of undocumented workers in New York are essential workers.[16] How much we spend to deny entries, rather than simply documenting people and allowing them to go through the process to attain citizenship, is entirely our own cost. The lines are made up and the scores don't count. And are a National Security Risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Lay off Jimmy. These are just people wanting a better life. Even if they have to go to Mexico first. I wonder why they don't just come in LA or SF? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-agents-apprehend-one-hundred-eighty-two-chinese-citizens-crossed-us-illegally-key-sector mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 clearly anecdotal TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 16 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said: No problem. https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/facts-not-fear-how-welcoming-immigrants-benefits-new-york-city/#:~:text=Although they are ineligible for,%2C state%2C and federal taxes. Quoted from the piece. Undocumented immigrants[10] support economic growth, pay taxes, and keep our city and economy running as essential workers. Although they are ineligible for Social Security, Medicaid, and most public benefits, undocumented immigrants help sustain[11] these vital entitlement programs by contributing billions of dollars into Social Security[12] and billions more into local, state, and federal taxes. In 2021, undocumented immigrants contributed[13] $30.8 billion in total taxes nationally, including $18.6 billion in federal income taxes and $12.2 billion in state and local taxes. In New York State, undocumented immigrants paid[14] $3 billion in taxes. Undocumented immigrants make up approximately 3.2 percent of the U.S. population, but 4 percent[15] of the country’s workforce. Undocumented immigrants are the backbone of many vital industries across New York. 70% of undocumented workers in New York are essential workers.[16] How much we spend to deny entries, rather than simply documenting people and allowing them to go through the process to attain citizenship, is entirely our own cost. The lines are made up and the scores don't count. i didn't think you could get any dumber but you went ahead and used, as a source of your stupidity, the utterly biased inanity of the NYC administration. the same administration whose leader (mayor) has begged and pleaded with washington to assist financially. 1 3 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThreePointTakedown Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-focuses-migrants-crime-here-is-what-research-shows-2024-04-11/ Commit crime at a lower rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointTakedown Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/6/2024 at 2:52 AM, Husker_Du said: i didn't think you could get any dumber but you went ahead and used, as a source of your stupidity, the utterly biased inanity of the NYC administration. the same administration whose leader (mayor) has begged and pleaded with washington to assist financially. So you don't think we should trust the department that is suppose to keep track of all these numbers? Please point me to a more reliable source and we can discuss the bias/unbias nature of that info? But to simply say that you don't trust it without offering a reason (because the mayor could have a political reason to craft a different narrative despite the numbers not saying what you want them to say), smacks of your fear that the info might actually be legit and it runs counter to the idea you have in your head. Either get over it or converse honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointTakedown Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/5/2024 at 5:34 PM, JimmyBT said: And are a National Security Risk A single person, and these are all just single people, are not national security risks. As much as you might need that to be true, it isn't. These are not coordinated efforts by immigrants to destabilize our country. Unlike those that are working for a Christian ethno-state in Idaho or Utah or just about everywhere else. Who are citizens. With all the rights and privileges that come with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Elite Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 11 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said: coordinated efforts by immigrants to destabilize our country That's the Build Back Better plan... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointTakedown Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said: That's the Build Back Better plan... I have a feeling I know the answer already but I'd hate to assume. You know this for a fact, how? Edited April 12 by ThreePointTakedown nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 36 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said: A single person, and these are all just single people, are not national security risks. As much as you might need that to be true, it isn't. These are not coordinated efforts by immigrants to destabilize our country. Unlike those that are working for a Christian ethno-state in Idaho or Utah or just about everywhere else. Who are citizens. With all the rights and privileges that come with it. Ummmmmmm. Your own government says it’s a security risk. Life is so hard for you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-focuses-migrants-crime-here-is-what-research-shows-2024-04-11/ Commit crime at a lower rate. The crime would be lower without them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-focuses-migrants-crime-here-is-what-research-shows-2024-04-11/ Commit crime at a lower rate. um anyone here illegally committed a crime... so 100% 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said: So you don't think we should trust the department that is suppose to keep track of all these numbers? Please point me to a more reliable source and we can discuss the bias/unbias nature of that info? But to simply say that you don't trust it without offering a reason (because the mayor could have a political reason to craft a different narrative despite the numbers not saying what you want them to say), smacks of your fear that the info might actually be legit and it runs counter to the idea you have in your head. Either get over it or converse honestly. he did offer a reason you allude to it in the parentheses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said: A single person, and these are all just single people, are not national security risks. As much as you might need that to be true, it isn't. These are not coordinated efforts by immigrants to destabilize our country. Unlike those that are working for a Christian ethno-state in Idaho or Utah or just about everywhere else. Who are citizens. With all the rights and privileges that come with it. so were bin laden still be alive.. and he came here he would not be a security risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, Ohio Elite said: That's the Build Back Better plan... he's never seen cloward-piven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 On 4/12/2024 at 1:33 PM, Scouts Honor said: um anyone here illegally committed a crime... so 100% What crime is that exactly? Just being present in the US without a valid visa or something is a civil violation, like a traffic ticket. So you are wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 The first offense is a misdemeanor according to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, which prohibits non-nationals from entering or attempting to enter the United States at any time or place which has not been designated by an immigration officer, and also prohibits non-nationals from eluding inspection by ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 The U.S. Customs and Border Protection is responsible for apprehending individuals attempting to enter the United States illegally. The United States Border Patrol is its mobile uniformed law enforcement arm, responsible for deterrence, detection and apprehension of those who enter the United States without authorization from the government or outside the designated ports of entry. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 by contrast Simply put, illegal immigration is a felony under Mexican law. In fact, Article 123 of the General Law of Population mandates that “a penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five hundred thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 https://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra-2014-criminalisation-of-migrants-annex_en.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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