Amusing announcers

[ClawRidesAgain]

Watching Lock Haven vs. Davidson streaming.  Announcers are amusing.  Mat returns are takedowns. Periods are “frames”.  “They both go to ground”.  Bow and arrow is a “cradle”.

[gimpeltf]

You must be young!

 

Lost treasure, found: 2012 Nebraska "Illegal Fist to the Back" dual

[ClawRidesAgain]

6 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

You must be young!

 

Lost treasure, found: 2012 Nebraska "Illegal Fist to the Back" dual

Sorry Gimp, been involved with wrestling for 55 years.  I remember the Nebraska match.  Actually have a recording of it.  It’s the standard bearer for sure.

Some new phrases heard tonight, though. “NFL position”, “Throw out”.

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, ClawRidesAgain said:

Sorry Gimp, been involved with wrestling for 55 years.  I remember the Nebraska match.  Actually have a recording of it.  It’s the standard bearer for sure.

Some new phrases heard tonight, though. “NFL position”, “Throw out”.

What would they call a spladle?

[PortaJohn]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

What would they call a spladle?

A ladle 

[Fadzaev2]

2 hours ago, ionel said:

What would they call a spladle?

 

A leg bow and arrow

Edited December 2, 2022 by Fadzaev2

[Fadzaev2]

I know a lot of guys love this guy Jeff Byers PSU....but he drives me nuts.......sounds like he's announcing the Kentucky Derby or doing an auction......talks a mile a second.

[ionel]

8 minutes ago, Fadzaev2 said:

I know a lot of guys love this guy Jeff Byers PSU....but he drives me nuts.......sounds like he's announcing the Kentucky Derby or doing an auction......talks a mile a second.

Just about worse wrestling announcer I've every heard.  

[Fadzaev2]

Just now, ionel said:

Just about worse wrestling announcer I've every heard.  

So, it's not just me.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

29 minutes ago, Fadzaev2 said:

I know a lot of guys love this guy Jeff Byers PSU....but he drives me nuts.......sounds like he's announcing the Kentucky Derby or doing an auction......talks a mile a second.

He is doing radio.

[Jason Bryant]

Byers is a home-town announcer on radio. He's not a neutral television broadcaster. Penn State puts his feed into their video and that's the easiest thing for them to do. Trying to classify him as something he's not isn't a fair view of what he is. He calls a good event and if you're listening, you know everything that's going on. If you're listening as a Penn State fan, you're really going to know what's going on. 

Don't go into a match he's calling expecting him to do anything other than what he's paid to do. 

"That guy sucks at the guitar"
"Well, that's because he's playing the cello"

Edited December 2, 2022 by Jason Bryant

[buckshot]

I watch Baseball, EPL/Champions League, F1 and wrestling. Wrestling is the only one that consistently has announcers who literally don't know the rules of the sport. You can't tell me that there isn't somebody at every school with a wrestling program that- 1. Knows the rules and 2. Is able to speak into a microphone.

As far as Byers goes I love him but I'm a PSU fan. I'm sure it sucks for fans of other teams since not only do you have to listen to him celebrating while your team loses you also hardly ever get to hear him call a match that PSU doesn't win. 

[TexRef]

8 hours ago, buckshot said:

I watch Baseball, EPL/Champions League, F1 and wrestling. Wrestling is the only one that consistently has announcers who literally don't know the rules of the sport. You can't tell me that there isn't somebody at every school with a wrestling program that- 1. Knows the rules and 2. Is able to speak into a microphone.

As far as Byers goes I love him but I'm a PSU fan. I'm sure it sucks for fans of other teams since not only do you have to listen to him celebrating while your team loses you also hardly ever get to hear him call a match that PSU doesn't win. 

There are a lot of HS and Youth coaches and maybe some lower level college coaches that don't know the rules. Sure we change our rules every year....but that's not an excuse. 

[Fadzaev2]

9 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

He is doing radio.

 

8 hours ago, Jason Bryant said:

Byers is a home-town announcer on radio. He's not a neutral television broadcaster. Penn State puts his feed into their video and that's the easiest thing for them to do. Trying to classify him as something he's not isn't a fair view of what he is. He calls a good event and if you're listening, you know everything that's going on. If you're listening as a Penn State fan, you're really going to know what's going on. 

Don't go into a match he's calling expecting him to do anything other than what he's paid to do. 

"That guy sucks at the guitar"
"Well, that's because he's playing the cello"

I realize he does radio, and that they use his feed sometimes for video.....I'm just saying.....he drives me nuts.....I just shut off the audio and watch the match.....I I didn't like PSU wrestling, I wouldn't watch, but I do....just give me Tim Johnson, Jim Gibbons, or other guys like that.  Even Gibbons, who is a friend of mine gets to me a little with some of his frequent terms/phrases....."belt buckle", "shoe laces", "Silver Fox".......  Just stating my opinion, maybe I shouldn't as the topic used the term "amusing".  Radio fans can love him.....I watch wrestling on TV/livestreams/Flo......therefore, I prefer a television announcer.  Fadz

[1032004]

8 hours ago, buckshot said:

I watch Baseball, EPL/Champions League, F1 and wrestling. Wrestling is the only one that consistently has announcers who literally don't know the rules of the sport. You can't tell me that there isn't somebody at every school with a wrestling program that- 1. Knows the rules and 2. Is able to speak into a microphone.

As far as Byers goes I love him but I'm a PSU fan. I'm sure it sucks for fans of other teams since not only do you have to listen to him celebrating while your team loses you also hardly ever get to hear him call a match that PSU doesn't win. 

Was at Lock Haven too…aren’t they not even D1 in other sports or something?

[Wrestleknownothing]

26 minutes ago, Fadzaev2 said:

 

I realize he does radio, and that they use his feed sometimes for video.....I'm just saying.....he drives me nuts.....I just shut off the audio and watch the match.....I I didn't like PSU wrestling, I wouldn't watch, but I do....just give me Tim Johnson, Jim Gibbons, or other guys like that.  Even Gibbons, who is a friend of mine gets to me a little with some of his frequent terms/phrases....."belt buckle", "shoe laces", "Silver Fox".......  Just stating my opinion, maybe I shouldn't as the topic used the term "amusing".  Radio fans can love him.....I watch wrestling on TV/livestreams/Flo......therefore, I prefer a television announcer.  Fadz

You absolutely should state your opinion as you are never a tool about it. 

[Elevator]

16 hours ago, Fadzaev2 said:

I know a lot of guys love this guy Jeff Byers PSU....but he drives me nuts.......sounds like he's announcing the Kentucky Derby or doing an auction......talks a mile a second.

I understand your take - even though I am rooting for PSU.  I turn the sound off.  He adds no interesting analysis.

[Ban Basketball]

Scott Casper and Mark Ironside for me, but NOT for reasons that people would typically think.

[Dark Energy]

1 hour ago, Ban Basketball said:

Scott Casper and Mark Ironside for me, but NOT for reasons that people would typically think.

Man crush.  We know.

[Ban Basketball]

18 minutes ago, Dark Energy said:

Man crush.  We know.

  Can't get one by YOU, can I, sailor?

[Jason Bryant]

There's also the distinction of pxp and color commentary. Ironside is the color commentator, where he ads his experience and the technical know-how to explain to the viewer/listener. His broadcast partner, Stephen Grace sets it all up. Gibbons calls this "down and distance" - so when Jim and I have worked events, I'll set the table with the basics of what's happening and Gibbons jumps in with what's happening with the wrestling mind. When you're on a one-person show, like Byers is 95% of the time, you're going to lose the technical aspects, but probably get a more data-driven type of commentary. Wrestling's vernacular is also very, very regional. If I call a move one thing from how I learned it in Virginia, it doesn't always translate to the same meaning here in the Midwest. I called a heavyweight's shoulder roll a "jelly roll" on a stream once with me and @Viratas when we were with TOM. He was like "Jelly Roll? Stop thinking about food." 

As far as finding people to do this - much like the topic we had with why teams don't do their own content. Quality control, although BTN's history with it's Student U seems to throw that theory out the window at times. There might be people at these schools with the ability, but usually there's one person for the school hired to staff these events - if those people don't know that there is someone who exists on campus or in the community - they don't know what they don't know. 

I know we all have our preferences with how we like to hear a match called and yes, it gets VERY annoying to hear people who butcher the calls. People do business with folks they know, like and trust - you don't always have someone who fits those criteria around the people who make decisions. 

[MNRodent]

I think that a lot of the time the student announcers or volunteer try to do too much.  They dabble in trying to do color commentary when they aren't even getting the play by play right.  Concentrate on getting the names right, and anything that we can't see on the screen...match time, riding time, period, match score, team score, etc. and don't be a homer.  Don't try to predict match strategy or interpret referee calls if you aren't sure what's going on.  You are just setting yourself up for criticism.  If you as an announcer haven't been around the sport for decades, you will probably know less than 90% of the people tuning in, so just stay in your lane and keep it simple.

[Jason Bryant]

I think that a lot of the time the student announcers or volunteer try to do too much.  They dabble in trying to do color commentary when they aren't even getting the play by play right.  Concentrate on getting the names right, and anything that we can't see on the screen...match time, riding time, period, match score, team score, etc. and don't be a homer.  Don't try to predict match strategy or interpret referee calls if you aren't sure what's going on.  You are just setting yourself up for criticism.  If you as an announcer haven't been around the sport for decades, you will probably know less than 90% of the people tuning in, so just stay in your lane and keep it simple.

Well said.

[Ban Basketball]

I'm the kind of goofball where I'd deliberately hire Farmer Fran to do my rasslin play-by-play for me.

 

[ionel]

A good contast today on Espn+ the OSU v Minny meet with  J. Carl Guymon and Hardell Moore on the broadcast.  J Carl back in the radio day & before Cuban sold his tech for $Ms could listen on the internet, he did a very good job of describing moves by both wrestlers so one could visualize the action.  J Carl is getting a little old so its good to have Hardell with.  In the past there were times with J Carl & Lee Roy, two old guys - not good.

For some reason there was a period when Rex Holt took over for J Carl. Rex is ok for baseball but a Byers type hard to understand homer who would get way too excited for the home team, didnt blow up the mike like Byers but still glad to see him not get the Espn deal.