ionel Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: I'm an Iowa hater but don't you think it's a little unfair to assume Terry hasn't matured or evolved as a coach in the last 20 years? Have you watched any film? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, ionel said: Have you watched any film? Jimmy is too busy dodging his creditors and bookies to watch film. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, ionel said: Have you watched any film? Terry is essentially what Brett Venables was to Dabo Swinney at Clemson. A highly energetic and highly skilled coach that is a bit of a maniac. Venables is coaching football at Oklahoma now. Terry would be highly desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, steamboat_charlie said: Any school? I don't think so. He wasn't at the top of UNC's list, nor Stanford's, nor will he be for Princeton. Are we going to pretend he isn't who he is? He's an attack dog. He's notoriously hot tempered. He's confrontational with officials, fans, and opposing wrestlers. He hasn't been a head coach in 20 years. The last time he was, he bailed after 3 seasons. Some of his conduct you'd be surprised to see from a young coach in their 20's, let alone a guy in his mid 50's. Are you imagining he's interviewing well--or do you think some AD's might be put off by the thousand yard stare? I don't dislike the guy or anything. He's entertaining as hell as a spectator. He's just not head coach material. So is it safe to say Espo "bailed" on OSU too? Because when Terry left UTC it was to coach at the OTC. The year he left UTC they finished 21st at NCAA's and had 2 AA's when they hadn't had any in the prior 13 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 47 minutes ago, Gus said: Terry is essentially what Mike Stoops was to Bob at Oklahoma. A highly energetic and highly skilled coach that is more than a bit of a maniac. Mike Stoops is coaching football at ... ftfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: I'm an Iowa hater but don't you think it's a little unfair to assume Terry hasn't matured or evolved as a coach in the last 20 years? Did you listen to the "You don't like tough wrestling" diatribe in 2021, or watch the Flo doc where he wants to fight someone he bumped into? 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg rider Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I will say from the UNC perspective, I am glad we went with Coach Koll instead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Did you listen to the "You don't like tough wrestling" diatribe in 2021, or watch the Flo doc where he wants to fight someone he bumped into?I’m a big fan of the time when he accused Aaron Brooks of cheating (in the same match where his son bit Brooks) at B1Gs two years ago when taking blood or injury time.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Smart Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Individual champs for the Iowa Hawkeyes since Tom and Terry Brands 2007-2023: 2007 - M. Perry. 2008 - M. Perry. 2010 - M. McDonough, J. Borchel. 2012 - M. McDonough. 2013 - D. St John. 2014 - T Ramos. 2017 - C. Clark. 2018 - S. Lee. 2019 - S. Lee. 2021 - S. Lee. 2009, 2011, 2015, 2016, 2020 (no tournament), 2022, 2023. - No individual champions 11 individual champions in 16 years (2020 no tournament). 6 years with 0 individual champions. Top recruits and have these results? Don't think he'll be a Head Coach or assistant anywhere but Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Maxwell Smart said: Individual champs for the Iowa Hawkeyes since Tom and Terry Brands 2007-2023: 2007 - M. Perry. 2008 - M. Perry. 2010 - M. McDonough, J. Borchel. 2012 - M. McDonough. 2013 - D. St John. 2014 - T Ramos. 2017 - C. Clark. 2018 - S. Lee. 2019 - S. Lee. 2021 - S. Lee. 2009, 2011, 2015, 2016, 2020 (no tournament), 2022, 2023. - No individual champions 11 individual champions in 16 years (2020 no tournament). 6 years with 0 individual champions. Top recruits and have these results? Don't think he'll be a Head Coach or assistant anywhere but Iowa. Now do the Hawkeye NCAA placement over the same time span and compare it to every other team not named PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Smart Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Other teams don't get the top recruits that the Hawkeyes do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Maxwell Smart said: Other teams don't get the top recruits that the Hawkeyes do. tOSU and OSU do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Maxwell Smart said: Individual champs for the Iowa Hawkeyes since Tom and Terry Brands 2007-2023: 2007 - M. Perry. 2008 - M. Perry. 2010 - M. McDonough, J. Borchel. 2012 - M. McDonough. 2013 - D. St John. 2014 - T Ramos. 2017 - C. Clark. 2018 - S. Lee. 2019 - S. Lee. 2021 - S. Lee. 2009, 2011, 2015, 2016, 2020 (no tournament), 2022, 2023. - No individual champions 11 individual champions in 16 years (2020 no tournament). 6 years with 0 individual champions. Top recruits and have these results? Don't think he'll be a Head Coach or assistant anywhere but Iowa. Metcalf? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Smart Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 You are correct! B Metcalf 2008, 2010. 8 individual champions with 13 individual titles. Thank you for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Maxwell Smart said: Individual champs for the Iowa Hawkeyes since Tom and Terry Brands 2007-2023: 2007 - M. Perry. 2008 - M. Perry. 2010 - M. McDonough, J. Borchel. 2012 - M. McDonough. 2013 - D. St John. 2014 - T Ramos. 2017 - C. Clark. 2018 - S. Lee. 2019 - S. Lee. 2021 - S. Lee. 2009, 2011, 2015, 2016, 2020 (no tournament), 2022, 2023. - No individual champions 11 individual champions in 16 years (2020 no tournament). 6 years with 0 individual champions. Top recruits and have these results? Don't think he'll be a Head Coach or assistant anywhere but Iowa. How many NC does the entire PAC12 conference have combined have in 16 years (hint: It's less)? Using your logic he should be a more successful HC than every single coach that has coached in the P12? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Gus said: Now do the Hawkeye NCAA placement over the same time span and compare it to every other team not named PSU. I feel as if Wkn already did this a year or two ago? It isn't even close. They're the top Bridesmaid. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Le duke said: I’m a big fan of the time when he accused Aaron Brooks of cheating (in the same match where his son bit Brooks) at B1Gs two years ago when taking blood or injury time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I thought he scratched him? I don't remember a bite. Big difference from a referee's perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Maxwell Smart said: Individual champs for the Iowa Hawkeyes since Tom and Terry Brands 2007-2023: 2007 - M. Perry. 2008 - M. Perry. 2010 - M. McDonough, J. Borchel. 2012 - M. McDonough. 2013 - D. St John. 2014 - T Ramos. 2017 - C. Clark. 2018 - S. Lee. 2019 - S. Lee. 2021 - S. Lee. 2009, 2011, 2015, 2016, 2020 (no tournament), 2022, 2023. - No individual champions 11 individual champions in 16 years (2020 no tournament). 6 years with 0 individual champions. Top recruits and have these results? Don't think he'll be a Head Coach or assistant anywhere but Iowa. Left out Metcalf lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Maxwell Smart said: Other teams don't get the top recruits that the Hawkeyes do. I can name a few. PSU, Oklahoma State, Ohio State... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllegalFist2Back Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 He needs to put together a recruiting video with all of his coaching highlights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, IllegalFist2Back said: He needs to put together a recruiting video with all of his coaching highlights. Love your screen name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Smart Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 "Left out Metcalf lol." Acknowledged the error an hour ago, lol. "A recruiting video with all his coaching highlight" would be very short. The Brands brothers can stay in Iowa City and place 2nd, 3rd, or 4th every year like they've done previously in the 16 years (excluding 2020) of their reign. Don't think the great Dan Gable would be satisfied with these results based on the domination he achieved, was a glorious time for the Hawkeyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 UNC should have went with a younger guy, but I guess they are shooting for that 10-15 range while violating the spirit of every rule in the book. For those that don't think Terry Brands is HC material, how is he different from his brother? I don't see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 58 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I feel as if Wkn already did this a year or two ago? It isn't even close. They're the top Bridesmaid. Exactly. Terry would be highly desirable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat_charlie Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Terry Brands can absolutely coach wrestling. That wasn't my point at all. I think just about every staff in the country would love to have him on it. There are countless guys that he has developed and made better. The question is whether he's a guy you want leading your program from the top. Answering directly to a boss that isn't his brother. Dealing with boosters. Administration. Fundraising. Recruiting. Media. Marketing. Navigating the NIL landscape. He could do well at a smaller program. I just don't think the money will make sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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