VakAttack Posted October 2 Posted October 2 20 hours ago, Idaho said: This is literally (not literally) the first person this has happened to since they changed the rules, lol. Tough break for Mo. "You are a voice of reason." - @Paul158 ""David Taylor has a stupid face." - Cael Sanderson (probably)" - @VakAttack
Idaho Posted October 2 Posted October 2 1 hour ago, VakAttack said: This is literally (not literally) the first person this has happened to since they changed the rules, lol. Tough break for Mo. Sort of... I mean he did wrestle 5.5 seasons and was a 5x AA...He may not have gotten his medical redshirt, but he got more seasons than he was supposed to. His post was pretty funny.... The NCAA finally cracked down on me...I used up every form of eligibility known to mankind. LOL 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT
boconnell Posted October 2 Posted October 2 14 hours ago, Caveira said: There will be a zillion and it’s dumb. There already are a zillion Why is 4 a better arbitrary number then 5? 2
ionel Posted October 2 Posted October 2 1 hour ago, boconnell said: Why is 4 a better arbitrary number then 5? Because a D1 college degree is a 4 year program (unless Architecture). If struggling to do it in 4 years one probably doesnt need the distraction of a 5th year of wrestling or other sport. 1 .
RAFWiki Posted October 2 Posted October 2 31 minutes ago, ionel said: Because a D1 college degree is a 4 year program (unless Architecture). If struggling to do it in 4 years one probably doesnt need the distraction of a 5th year of wrestling or other sport. Endene earned a Bachelor in Business Administration from Wartburg in 2025, and a Master's in Leadership from Wartburg in 2026 - he took his master's classes remotely while wrestling at Iowa He's not an idiot .
jchapman Posted October 2 Posted October 2 Are we sure someone in the NAIA couldn't find him a semester or two of eligibility? 1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals.
boconnell Posted October 2 Posted October 2 2 hours ago, ionel said: Because a D1 college degree is a 4 year program (unless Architecture). If struggling to do it in 4 years one probably doesnt need the distraction of a 5th year of wrestling or other sport. What a dumb answer. How are 4 postseasons and a RS (or 2 or 3) somehow more in line with the academic model than 5 postseasons. If you don't like people taking more than 4 years, then what does it matter if year 5 has a postseason?
bnwtwg Posted October 2 Posted October 2 3 hours ago, ionel said: Because a D1 college degree is a 4 year program (unless Architecture). If struggling to do it in 4 years one probably doesnt need the distraction of a 5th year of wrestling or other sport. Plenty of engineering programs Biomed is increasingly moving to 5 And lots of schools of shifting to Bach+Masters 3.5+1.5 programs where if you leave you get hit hard i am an idiot on the internet
GringoSuave Posted October 2 Posted October 2 3 hours ago, jchapman said: Are we sure someone in the NAIA couldn't find him a semester or two of eligibility? They should be able to. Isn't that what NAIA stands for? National Association of Ineligible Athletes? 1
Simpleman424 Posted October 2 Posted October 2 3 hours ago, RAFWiki said: Endene earned a Bachelor in Business Administration from Wartburg in 2025, and a Master's in Leadership from Wartburg in 2026 - he took his master's classes remotely while wrestling at Iowa He's not an idiot That has to be up there as one of the most useless degrees you could obtain…at least he didn’t pay for it…
ionel Posted October 2 Posted October 2 3 hours ago, RAFWiki said: Endene earned a Bachelor in Business Administration from Wartburg in 2025, and a Master's in Leadership from Wartburg in 2026 - he took his master's classes remotely while wrestling at Iowa He's not an idiot Did I say anything about Endene? .
ionel Posted October 2 Posted October 2 2 hours ago, boconnell said: What a dumb answer. How are 4 postseasons and a RS (or 2 or 3) somehow more in line with the academic model than 5 postseasons. If you don't like people taking more than 4 years, then what does it matter if year 5 has a postseason? You asked why 4, I gave a possible reason followed with a shrug. Didn't say there isn't also an argument for 5. .
ionel Posted October 2 Posted October 2 28 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Plenty of engineering programs Engineering programs are generally structuree for 4 years, can be done in 3.5 and possibly even 3 but generally it doesn't work well for wrestlers. .
Caveira Posted October 3 Posted October 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Simpleman424 said: That has to be up there as one of the most useless degrees you could obtain…at least he didn’t pay for it… Check out some of the psu majors. They’re interesting too Recreation, Park, and Tourism Management (RPTM) is widely known as the most popular major for elite wrestlers at Penn State University. Cael Sanderson’s program has seen a huge percentage of its multiple-time National Champions and All-Americans graduate from this exact department. If you look at the Penn State wrestling rosters, it spans multiple generations of absolute hammers: The Penn State "RPTM" Crew Aaron Brooks: 4x NCAA Champion David Taylor: 2x NCAA Champion & current OSU Head Coach Levi Haines: 2024 NCAA Champion and current senior Tyler Kasak: 2x All-American and 2025 Big Ten Champion Josh Barr: 2025 National Runner-up / All-American Roman Bravo-Young (RBY): 2x NCAA Champion (completed RPTM graduate/special studies) Greg Kerkvliet: 2024 NCAA Heavyweight Champion Brock Weiss: 149 lb underclassman Konner Kraeszig: Veteran 174 lb starter Edited October 3 by Caveira
Cornell Kevin Posted October 3 Posted October 3 My understanding of Mo Endene’s eligibility situation: The “JUCO rule” people refer to was actually a temporary NCAA waiver issued following Vanderbilt QB Diego Pavia’s eligibility lawsuit. It allowed qualifying athletes who had competed at a non-NCAA school, such as a junior college, and otherwise exhausted their eligibility in 2024–25 to compete in Division I during 2025–26. That was the extra year Endene used at Iowa—the same waiver opportunity used by wrestlers such as Jett Strickenberger. The key: it applied specifically to the 2025–26 academic year. The NCAA issued limited relief in response to the Pavia case, rather than permanently removing JUCO seasons from eligibility calculations. It also didn’t automatically extend an athlete’s eligibility clock. So a medical redshirt alone wouldn’t turn that temporary waiver into eligibility for 2026–27. Endene would have needed separate relief to return. That’s my understanding of the issue, although I haven’t seen the NCAA’s specific explanation of his ruling. 3
bnwtwg Posted October 3 Posted October 3 (edited) 5 hours ago, ionel said: Engineering programs are generally structuree for 4 years, can be done in 3.5 and possibly even 3 but generally it doesn't work well for wrestlers. The only people who finish engineering in 3 years needed an extra year for their associates Edited October 3 by bnwtwg *obvious footnote for the elite who finished in 3 years and will be going on to much bigger and better things. Those students most likely will not be NCAA athletes however. i am an idiot on the internet
boconnell Posted October 3 Posted October 3 6 hours ago, ionel said: You asked why 4, I gave a possible reason followed with a shrug. Didn't say there isn't also an argument for 5. That's not at all what you did. You said if you can't get a degree in 4 years you shouldn't be distracted by wrestling.
MoveCountermove Posted October 3 Posted October 3 14 hours ago, Simpleman424 said: That has to be up there as one of the most useless degrees you could obtain…at least he didn’t pay for it… I wasn’t going to say that, but I was curious what exactly that means. But I get the vibe a lot of people around are religious and thought maybe it was shorthand to mean some kind of “Leadership” for that or youth work or something? Otherwise, it’s like some type of degree that teaches you how to be a leader/in charge/a boss? It’s usually the athletes that shed light on some of these pathways/degrees/career options that I’ve never heard of before, and I usually find it interesting, if nothing else. Leadership > communications, I suppose 1
MPhillips Posted October 3 Posted October 3 1 minute ago, MoveCountermove said: But I get the vibe a lot of people around are... "religious." .
MoveCountermove Posted October 3 Posted October 3 44 minutes ago, MPhillips said: "religious." Yes, this.
Simpleman424 Posted October 3 Posted October 3 1 hour ago, MoveCountermove said: I wasn’t going to say that, but I was curious what exactly that means. But I get the vibe a lot of people around are religious and thought maybe it was shorthand to mean some kind of “Leadership” for that or youth work or something? Otherwise, it’s like some type of degree that teaches you how to be a leader/in charge/a boss? It’s usually the athletes that shed light on some of these pathways/degrees/career options that I’ve never heard of before, and I usually find it interesting, if nothing else. Leadership > communications, I suppose I actually went and looked up the curriculum for it on the colleges website before posting that…I stand by my comment…lol
TexRef Posted October 3 Posted October 3 18 hours ago, GringoSuave said: They should be able to. Isn't that what NAIA stands for? National Association of Ineligible Athletes? It could be No Athletic Investigation Allowed 1
Caveira Posted October 3 Posted October 3 3 hours ago, MoveCountermove said: I wasn’t going to say that, but I was curious what exactly that means. But I get the vibe a lot of people around are religious and thought maybe it was shorthand to mean some kind of “Leadership” for that or youth work or something? Otherwise, it’s like some type of degree that teaches you how to be a leader/in charge/a boss? It’s usually the athletes that shed light on some of these pathways/degrees/career options that I’ve never heard of before, and I usually find it interesting, if nothing else. Leadership > communications, I suppose I believe it’s a Human Resources (HR) type of a degree.
GringoSuave Posted October 5 Posted October 5 On 10/3/2026 at 9:55 AM, TexRef said: It could be No Athletic Investigation Allowed No Academic Integrity Allowed. 2
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