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Chael said that if WADA had authority any money spent on lawyers would be a waste. I suppose this could be interpreted multiple ways. One way would be that winning is impossible. Another would be that if you had a winnable case hiring a lawyer would not increase your chances of winning.

On FRL today CP got a text mid show that Aaron Brooks was cleared by WADA.

I suppose it is theoretically possible, but is there precedence for the NCAA vacating individual accomplishments for a failed test like this in wrestling? I don't recall them stripping Fix of anything. Maybe he just had fortunate timing as he was Olympic redshirting the year he failed a test.

Momir Petkovic is also listed on the CKWC staff. He was an Olympic champion in 1976. I wonder how involved Beloglasov and Petkovic are at 67 and 70 years old respectively. It seems likely that CKWC leads the RTCs in world titles on the coaching staff.

I didn't think USA Wrestling made any public comments on the topic except to say that they don't comment. Aaron seemed confident in his Basch interview, but I'm not sure that means much.

He did, but Zain specifically said Jordan Conaway was his training partner in an interview. "Jordan Conaway came out to be my training partner." https://youtu.be/JKyWp7sBy9Y?si=DfGhThkkhSxucpM9&t=150

I think he went with Zain as his practice partner for the World Olympic Qualifier. Not sure what else he's been up.

Looks like I was wrong. Kevin Jackson is on the staff at Michigan not the CKWC staff. 1) OSU 5 (David Taylor 1 Olympic/3 World, Thomas Gilman 1 World) 2) Iowa 4 (Tom Brands 1 Olympic/1 World, Terry Brands 2 World) 3) Michigan (Kevin Jackson 1 Olympic/2 World) 4) Morgan State 2 (Kenny Monday 1 Olympic/1 World) 5) PSU 1 (Cael Sanderson 1 Olympic) 5) ASU 1 (Larry Jones 1 World) 5) Ohio State 1 (Logan Stieber 1 World) RTC Staff Jake Varner NLWC (1 Olympic) Kendall Cross NYC RTC (1 Olympic) Brandon Slay Pennsylvania RTC (1 Olympic)

Pendleton wrestled in the 2012 Olympic trials. He lost in the challenge tournament finals to Tommy Rowlands.

I'd have to think it's a possibility, though they have a pretty huge pool of qualified alumni to fill it. There are a handful of world level champions at RTCs. Jake Varner NLWC Kendall Cross NYC RTC Brandon Slay Pennsylvania RTC Kevin Jackson CKWC

1) OSU 5 (David Taylor 1 Olympic/3 World, Thomas Gilman 1 World) 2) Iowa 4 (Tom Brands 1 Olympic/1 World, Terry Brands 2 World) 3) Morgan State 2 (Kenny Monday 1 Olympic/1 World) 4) PSU 1 (Cael Sanderson 1 Olympic) 4) ASU 1 (Larry Jones 1 World) 4) Ohio State 1 (Logan Stieber 1 World) It looks like OSU will have the most World level titles on staff just like before Smith retired. Am I missing any world/Olympic champion head or assistant coaches?

UNC finished 3rd with a record of 3-2 in ACC duals this year under Rob Koll. Would you have the same assessment of him as a head coach? When national championship winning coaches have had the head position at smaller programs they have had good results, but results that wouldn't put them in contention for a team trophy. This is true of Brands when he was at VT, Zalesky at Oregon State, and Ryan at Hofstra. I don't think Scott's coaching record at UNC is an indication that he would not be successful at OSU. On the other hand many coaches that have produced extraordinary results at small programs like Flynn st Edinboro and Cody at AU have had difficulty duplicating those results when they have moved to bigger programs. Some have also had success like Joe Seay.

In Clash of Combat interview from April 2023 he said he graduated from Minnesota. He should talk about it around the time stamp I've linked to in the video below. I suspect he would be started graduate work if he returned to NCAA competition somewhere next year. https://youtu.be/LzUSDGeSNPw?si=hl5aWwRMhr_FKzEw&t=2734

I might ask why there was a vertical jump or 4 in those plots, but I wouldn't presuppose the answer.

Ram of the East with a new message. "Last year, not to make this too much about myself, last year when I really started getting into the truth.. when I really started picking up my cross daily doing my best to live like Christ, you know repent of my sins, turn from my ways, not love the world...follow his commandments I watched some guys on YouTube some brothers in Christ... They would always say when you really start to come to the truth you'll know because strange things will happen. Things you can't explain I think when you look at Christ's life you know strange things. People plotted against him. The Pharisees. You go read through the gospels Mark, Matthew, Luke, John. You read through the gospels it's strange what they did to the Messiah. When you really start to live like him and pick up your cross daily strange things will happen. And I'm not going to sit here and talk about my story or the things that I'm going through or went through or whatever, but weird things happen."

What exactly is the fishy part? Is it the vertical jump in the blue line just before 6:00 in Wisconsin and just after 8:00 in MI that I've circled in green? In Michigan there are similarly sized jumps in both the red and blue lines earlier in the day which I've marked with arrows. Are these fishy too?

I don't think it is ego (although that may be the case for NM1965) as much as it is logic. There are talks of Gable being unbeatable in the room, but when he actually put in on the line and attempted a comeback to make the 1976 team he lost to to a college guy - Lee Kemp. John Smith is the goat, but he lost multiple times to Reinoso who ended up losing to D2 guys when he came to America. I expect many will have similar stories about David Taylor dominating the room at OSU. Presumably near his peak he just lost to a college senior Aaron Brooks who was beaten by Marcus Coleman. Taylor when asked about Kerkvliet kind of admitted to avoiding him in the room because of his size. The idea that Gable, Smith, Sanderson, Cunningham, Taylor ect by and large get the better of nearly all their wrestlers I would 't dispute, but they get to pick their spots and they are wrestling guys they know well. In a match it would go differently sometimes. There is a reason these guys are retired and coaching instead of competing.

Daton failed an out of competition test in Jan 2020 and was suspended through Feb 2021. He didn't wrestle in NCAA competition in that time as he was Olympic redshirting in 2019-2020. I think the NCAA enforced it, but he didn't miss much time between the Olympic redshirt and 2020-2021 being an abbreviated season due to COVID. Since he didn't compete in NCAA competition between failing the test and getting the sanction there isn't really precedent as to whether they would nullify a result from Fix's situation. Stripping wins is the only thing the NCAA could do to Brooks/PSU now.

Was Zahid Valencia suspended at ASU for failing a UWW drug test??

Maybe if he got a silver it would tarnish. Gold is resistant to tarnish and oxidation.

Would Taylor getting the Olympic Spot for a suspended Brooks really put the kibosh on his pursuit of the OSU opening? John Smith and Kenny Monday were co-head coaches in 1991-92 as both were attempting to make the 1992 Olympic team. Ultimately both did make the team and the job went to Smith on a permanent bases. Taylor wrestling in the Paris Olympics would wrap up in August before the academic year even begins. By comparison it would be far less of a distraction.

That was in the qualifier (end of Feb) at 74kg. I didn't see him in the results for the championships (earlier in Feb). I am more surprised to not see him in the entries for the World Qualifier. I would have thought if he wrestled in the Pan Am qualifier he'd at least take a crack at the world qualifier.

I didn't see Palacio in the entries. Didn't he attempt to qualify at the Pan Am qualifier. Is he injured or something? He was calling out that heckler just the other day.

Who Gable or Sanderson? They both attempted to make multiple Olympic teams. Gable tried to make the team in 1968 but lost to Bobby Douglas. Douglas was the rep in 1969 and 1970. I'm unsure of Gable attempted to make those teams and was beaten out or skipped them to focus on NCAA competition. He made the team in 1971 and won worlds. He then made the Olympics in 1972 and won those. After 3+ years off he attempted to make a comeback to make the team in 1976. After losing to Lee Kemp in an early open tournament he packed it in. Cael Sanderson Wrestled at the 2000 Olympic trials where he finished 6th. He made the world teams in 2001 and 2002. In 2001 he declined to wrestle after the world championships were delayed due to 9/11/2001. In 2002 the US did not send a team due to security concerns in Iran. In 2003 he made the team again and finished 2nd. In 2004 he won the Olympics and retired. In 2011 he made a comeback winning the world team spot and placing 5th at the world championships before retiring again. I don't think it is accurate to say either competed for "one Olympic cycle."

In the 80s Iowa was the premier program and they tried to hire Gable to replace Chesbro. Doesn't seem like they even made an attempt or if they did Sanderson considered it less than Gable did. https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1984/03/23/paper-says-osu-casting-eye-at-gable/62809463007/