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That's what I came up with too. While Flo might have made the correct statement I suspect they stumbled onto it.

"Kyle made his 3rd Olympic team.. 11th US wrestler to do that." Is how they phased it, which would include Maroulis. I suppose it's possible that they cited 11 because they are not counting Jay Tommy Evans because he only wrestled in 2 Olympics 1952 and 1956. He represented the US in both freestyle and greco in 1956 and only freestyle in 1952. Are you including him in the list because of the two styles in 1956 or and I missing an Olympics? I could see Flo saying that he represented the US in 2 events at one Olympic, but that is one Olympic team so only made 2 teams. Is Evans the only person to represent the US in both styles at the Olympics?

1980 is being counted in Fuller's total. Ben Peterson was also on the 1980 team which did not participate. Peterson only competed in 2 games

On FRL today they said that Kyle Snyder made his 3rd olympic team and that he was the 11th American to do this. I can't think of the other 10. Big Bruce Baumgartner is the obvious one. He was on the team 4x in 1984, 1988, 1992, and 1996. Ben Peterson was on the team in 1972, 1976, and 1980. Bill Kerslake (1952, 1956, 1960). Helen Marouis is the only lady to make 3 teams (2016, 2021, and 2024). Who were the other 66?

Carter Starocci, possibly?

This came too late to help Willie/@Husker_Du, but Flo will not be able to use this tactic to stop others from moving on in the near future. "The ban, which will take effect later this year, carves out an exception for existing noncompetes that companies have given their senior executives, on the grounds that these agreements are more likely to have been negotiated. The FTC says employers should not enforce other existing noncompete agreements." https://www.npr.org/2024/04/23/1246655366/ftc-bans-noncompete-agreements-lina-khan

I think this was the crash

Whaaaat?!?! Two Cinnabons? They are multiplying!

I don't really follow greco, but I seem to recall that he left his shoes on the mat after losing in the best of three finals at the 2021 trials. He won the spot up a weight at 97kg. I tried to find some information to confirm my recollection regarding his retirement and I found a bunch of information that he was challenging his loss at the 2021 trials via arbitration. From what I gather Rau and his coaches requested the official of his final be changed because he had a team affiliation with Rau's opponent. This was denied and there was some fishy stoppages and calls during the first bout. Match 1 Rau Stefanowicz 2021 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K04Fxf17rkA Match 2 Rau Stefanowicz 2021 - https://youtu.be/oGtE-K01ry8?si=r954edGNmen29W4l Match 2 doesn't shoe him leaving his shoes on the mat. Does anyone recall him leaving his shoes on the mat in 2021? Does anyone know the outcome of the arbitration? I assume he lost because Stefanowicz wrestled at the Olympics, but is the decision available anywhere? Did they re-wrestle the match?

Sonnen said that Starocci has been offered $400k to wrestle in the NCAA next season. It is hard to imagine that this offer was coming from Pitt. It is also somewhat hard to believe anything Sonnen says. He starts talking about Starocci at 4:20 in the video.

Yes, the most NCAA titles per wrestler and possibly the most D1 NCAA titles. The 1984 team also had 4 titles on the greco side with Blatnik a 2x D2 champ and Famiano a 2x D3 champ. I think the 2024 greco team will only have 1 NCAA champ, Joe Rau with a D3 title.

I think the step out is far superior to fleeing or stalling. It is black and white did the whole foot leave the wrestling area. It turns a judgement call (stalling and fleeing) into something objective. I favour that. Straight arm pushout and grounded exceptions kind of annoying aspects to it, but in comparison to stalling/fleeing are a net positive. OP's complaint was about passivity judgement calls not step outs. Removing the step out and replacing it with fleeing/passivity would just create more of these.

Not the only time that happened in the tournament. Brooks wrestled Dieringer in the semis. Brooks has 4 titles and Ringer 3. More Hodges on the mat(2 vs 1) in that one too. NCAA records Kyle Dake 137-4, Alex Dieringer 133-4, Jason Nolf 117-3, Aaron Brooks 89-3.

A 4th final, 74kg, featured RTC teammates with Nolf and Dake wrestling each other.

Alex Marinelli tweeted his retirement on X after the trials.

I'll give him a pass if he did the same thing to Taylor Saturday night.

18 is a maximum for the team. Lee and Retherford still need to qualify. Could be 12, 15, or 18 at the games. The 1984 team had 19 individual NCAA titles. Bobby Weaver (0) Joe Gonzales (3) Barry Davis (3) Randy Lewis (2) Andy Rein (1) Dave Schultz (1) Mark Schultz (3) Ed Banach (3) Lou Banach (2) Bruce Baumgartner (1)

Not sure. The lady on the PA said multiple times the top 4 are on the national team. She started to expound on it at one point but was cut off by action on the mat. I think JB must not have weighed in day 2. I guess because there is the possibility he'd have to wrestle 3rd place he is required to weigh in. Top 4 - Dake, Nolf, Burroughs, Messenbrink should have been on the team is my understanding. Not really sure.

The national team is made up out of the top 4 at the OTT. In non-olympic years it's only the top 3 at the WTT/Final X

JB used a lot of these same tactics in Final X last year with Chance. He got booed at times and that was in his home state of NJ.

Escobedo wrestled at worlds at 57kg in 2013. Looks like Blanc and Escobedo wrestled at the trials in 2016, so he's another one high school recruits may have seen wrestle live.

Here are less stupid proposed bracket for 65kg and 86kg. This keeps Nick Lee and Aaron Brooks in the position of the 1 seed which sounds about right to me since they both defeated the wrestler with the semifinal bye in their last meeting. I have the consolations by standard bracketing and it doesn't work out quite as perfect as 2021 74kg did, but it's still better than what was actually used. There are two byes in the consi quarters (R12) which are created by the missing quarterfinals and R16 matches in the championship bracket. Two wrestlers could be moved from the cons quarters to fill the byes in the R12. This would make it so no quarterfinal loser would have a bye to the cons semi 1 round (top 8 finish). This would leave a single first round consolation match at 65 and a full consi quarter (r12) round at 86kg. I'd probably lean to placing the losers of match 1 and 5 into this pigtail as they would likely be the worst seeded and the last matches to be filled when entering the bracket. So this would be a bye at 86KG where there its no match 1 (Brooks has a bye). I've also attached a visualization of this. 65kbBracketLessStupid.pdf65kbBracketLessStupid.pdf 86kbBracketLessStupid.pdf86kbBracketLessStupid.pdf ConsolationsModified.pdf

They look set to go out on a low note in men's freestyle at least. It looks like TMWC will sweep the men's places. Any change Jordan Burroughs, Zahid Valencia or anyone else can grab a spot from the Titans?

I had thought about this and I also think the wrestler with the bye should be seeded. I would guarantee the wrestler with the bye a top 4 seed and just more him to that position in the bracket. In the case of 65kg Retherford could be the top seed, but there is an argument for Nick Lee to be the top seed. The last time Retherford wrestled 65kg he lost to Nick Lee. Retherford has never medaled at 65kg. Diakomihalis has beaten Retherford at 65kg and is the only wrestler to medal at the weight. I could see someone putting him anywhere between 1-3. Ideally I'd want the wrestlers distributed so the top 2 guys meet in the finals. I could see this being a slight issue if two wrestlers have byes. This could have been the case this year if Arujau had gone up. I don't think many would have him as a top 2 seed at 65 kg. In this case I say give both Aruba and Retherford guaranteed top 4 seeds. Putting no further restrictions on the seeding could lead to the two guys with byes wrestling each other in the semis if Retherford is 2 behind Nick Lee and Arujau gets the 3. Some people might not like that because their opponent will also be fresh. I'm okay with that as they still only need 1 win to make the final and they will have a big advantage over their finals opponent, but some will want them separated in the bracket. I think this is a minor point.

You're not wrong. Here is the document with the procedures - https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/blteb7d012fc7ebef7f/bltf8d10db3aa328be4/650367e19bcd1b10091d0862/2024_MFS_OLY_Procedures.pdf Looking at the edit history at the end of the document it was created by Megan Ball and reviewed and signed off on by Rich Bender, Cody Bickley, and Mallory Velte. I suppose we should be complaining to them. Maybe they will spend more than a minute reviewing it next time. All of their email addresses are in the document...