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He's also been on record saying it'd be "cool" to have the chance to get 5 and do something nobody else ever has. I believe he'll go for 5...if he gets 4.

"We?"

I think I've done so a few times now and you come back...reply twice if you don't get the reaction you seek. I've even tried to move this to private messages so we don't burden the entire forum with this petty bullshit when people are actually trying to discuss potential rule changes in a sport they ACTUALLY care about. And yes, you have been doing "it" before me and I'm sure you'll continue these silly detractions with or without me(just this thread shows you're apt to do just that with other posters).

"cheap internet parlor tricks?" Sure...that definitely makes sense. Just take a look at this; 27 posts not...about a style of Wresting you don't respect. That you don't care about, two ridiculously long little feuds distracting from the topic again with two people. Virtually nothing has anything to do with the thread. I've tried now a couple times to just end this. Clearly I've hit a nerve as you've posted multiple times after I've said you can have the last word! But...what you really want, just like that little cocker spaniel...is stimulation, isn't it? In that respect, I'm sorry I've indulged you. What exactly are you looking for here? Just a leg to hump? Is there any way that can be someone(anyone) else? LOL...Christ, the dog really doesn't know what to do when he catches that rabbit.

That sounds great...and I have a great deal of respect for Navid Afkari, I think asking someone else to do that is...just asking too much. This isn't like protesting in the US(obviously, I know you know this).

LOL...he's STILL going? Even if I TRY to let you get the last word just to be done with you...what is it? Napoleon Complex? This thread...AGAIN, wasn't about you. And yet you've gotten into these totally, utterly meaningless drawn out protracted and incoherent threads about nothing. Remember...this isn't even a sport YOU respect? Clearly I don't. I try to let you just tire yourself out. I try to let you get the last word...what else are you looking for?

When I said the TDs out of bounds, I was referring specifically to the Churella-Hendricks match. Those just aren't close to Takedowns..at all. As a whole...I actually like where we're at right now. It's not flawless by any means. If I could make one change, I'd like to see the...(channeling inner Shane Sparks) resilite with a larger out of bounds area. More room so that a Wrestler can't just put his hand on the floor to be out of bounds. That's an issue. A lot of the TDs that are given up are given up just because guys kinda try to Wrestle the edge and they let up. And it's certainly hard to Wrestle through a position, but it's kinda like catching the ball on the sidelines and dragging your toes. You're not going to have to take the hit and hang on as you go to the ground, but it's just about being aware of where you are. I agree though, you can wrestle out of bounds on one side and have 3 extra feet if you're butting up against another mat and going the other way, you've got the table or the floor. I just don't know how to solve that(other than just larger mats, but that's expensive...though if you started moving in that direction now....). I do like it better than the older rules where there were far-far fewer TDs because the action was blown dead.

I'm just going off memory here, but I know Alex Smith, the Washington Football Team QB who suffered a brutal injury and ended up having 18 surgeries...his story started out sounding pretty similar. Though I believe his was worse(hopefully...it sounds like they're coming through the worst of this). But it took a while for them to realize it was necrotizing fasciitis in his case as well, correct? A compound fracture on a football field...all the bacteria. It just sounds brutal...and the same can be said for a Wrestling match. One great thing about the Wrestling community, it's diverse, but we seem to come together when someone is in need. I sure as hell hope this is a storyline at the NCAA's next year. Just Wrestling next year would be a great story and mean he's healthy and he's recovered.

Hey...LBJ...just, shhh. Go on, do your Gif, get that last word that you need to get. Do the usual song and dance. I've already answered your question and your end goal is....SO very clear. To drag this shit out forever or get the last word. Once again, I'll give that to you, but as I said, my end goal...ideally, would be less of you, the stray dog, yapping at every post. I mean, was the guy who never wrestled before calling D1 Wrestlers soft comical? For a while...in the same way as anyone who is straight up and all the way to the left of the Dunning-Kruger graph is entertaining...for a very short period of time. After that...well, I think @Scouts Honorput it best. No end goal other than to get the dog to stop yapping(STILL). But that seems inevitable.

I mean...he's not exactly venturing too far out onto that limb there...saying the 3X Champ a weight up isn't going to lose to Amine(who is an outstanding Wrestler).

As usual...I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. I "stalked YOUR profile?" I mean...sure. If you need that to be true! I think you're getting confused(though that's of little surprise). LMFAO!!! Riiight! I just stated as much...but per usual, it didn't register with ya. ...I...huh? My "excuse" for what exactly? Exactly what am I meant to need an 'excuse' for here? Is this thread an example of ME "stalking your profile?" Again, your opinion of yourself is almost cartoonish.

I understand that and I wasn't speaking to how right or wrong either was. I'm speaking more to the speculation about getting a transfer and how often it's talked about and how seldom it actually happens for the school in question. There were always rumors a Wrestler was going to transfer in to fill the hole we needed and it never happened. The only times it did was when a kid who was in another school district open enrolled to start HS to Wrestle for our coach. At this level, the speculation reminds me of being back in HS.

Believe it or not lil bud, sometimes I'm really just having a discussion that doesn't involve you. The end goal would ideally be just less interaction...but just as it's difficult to stop that when I have to watch my Sister's yappy little cocker spaniel that's always hopping my feet, biting at my ankles and just generally spazzing out around me, it's equally difficult to do so on here. In fairness, I can just put the dog in the cage in the Basement and after a few hours, he usually tires himself out. I can't seem to find a way to shake you on here though...much as I'd like to.

Part of the reason I think he'll pursue #4 and #5. The History of it being far more significant. Hell, if things go as I suspect they will in '24, he may be more invested than ever in '25.

They do generally tend to be good bets. And I'd be shocked to see Starocci lose to Marsteller again. I think it's more likely he wins the spot at 74KG than Marsteller beats him...and I don't think Dake is giving up his spot at 74 just yet. I'm also of the belief that Starocci will be back for #4 and #5(provided he gets #4). The possibility of being the first in NCAA history has to be pretty compelling to the ego. When your ego has it's own gravitational pull....

So...to be clear here, I'M the stalker? I mean...look at your last post? You're once again interjecting yourself into a response to me that, while I understand painful, was not actually about you!

Insomuch as one "loves" Shingles or some other deeply annoying affliction, sure. If meant sincerely...well, let me steal a page from his book(and about his size!);

That was just bad. And it's one of those reasons I hate the, "don't leave it in the refs hands." I'm fine with not calling the pin. Going back and watching these matches, there are quite a few times where a pin could have been called and it wasn't, be it defensive or whatever. But those TDs on the edge are just awful. Particularly at that point when they weren't as generous with the TDs on the edge as they are now. It has to hurt losing a match like THAT. I mean...we've all likely lost some matches we thought we should have won(or believed we should have won if not for the ref), but this was just so egregious and next level.

You put "We should never change the rules," in quotes. Quotes means someone said that...and nobody said anything CLOSE to that. There have been several times people wanted rule changes. The difference between NOT wanting the step out rule or EVERY rule change is not pedantic, it's just not agreeing with you. Sometimes it's just changing shit just to change it...which AGAIN, they did for years in Greco and Freestyle to it's detriment. LOL...oh Christ...the irony here is just too much! A guy who never wrestled, who's doesn't respect the style of Wrestling we're talking about and who's..."accomplishments," I guess are being the most proliferate poster of Gifs and questioning the toughness of people who don't agree with him...it's cute. And you don't even need to reply. We already know it. I don't want to get that little bird chirping again I should have known some things can't be helped!

I don't want to get that little bird chirping again, but I think it was a little more than that...and we're also conflating COLLEGE Wrestling with Olympic Wrestling, but we did a terrible job of marketing the sport. Again, the biggest match that was shown on TV was the not the most exciting match you could think of. To this day, it's the match people remember because they made such a big deal about it during the Olympic coverage. This epic upset that everyone talked about(along with the myths that surrounded it). They showed Karelin and Rulon over and over. Didn't see Saitiev vs Slay. I think that was a bigger problem. MMA and Wrestlers success has also helped the sport a great deal. My interpretation was the reason it HAD fallen behind, not that it was falling behind where it is NOW. The time it was "behind" was ~2000 until they tried to get rid of it and cut it to 6 Olympic sports.

I've literally never seen anyone say "we should have never changed the rules..."

God Gable seemed obnoxious during this match. I know this is going to draw the ire of all Iowa fans, but...just the antithesis of Cael in the corner. Just screaming and swearing at the refs in the corner. I get that type of intensity is what made him Gable in the first place, but that makes Tom and Terry look like they're sedated during matches. And hasn't Tom Ryan said something about how they take it too far? That's kinda funny! Anyway, another great match. I guess Iu_alum doesn't stand for Illinois then?

I'm not sure how you once again made this about your kids, but...no, I don't take pride in the accomplishments of kids that I don't know. I get your need to live vicariously through them and somehow inject them into every topic, but I'm almost completely indifferent. Now, because I know you you can't rest and you may get the shakes if you don't get the last word....in this thread about a young man choosing to attempt to become a Navy Seal rather than Wrestle in College, I am done now and you can re-use another Gif that you find super clever. I hope things improve for you bud! I'm rooting for ya!

Dake definitely kinda slid under the radar. He won it, but I don't think many people expected him to come back and win it again...and certainly not 3 more times. It didn't really hit me until his Soph year and the way he just dominated that field. IIRC, he gave up 1 point to Molinaro in the finals and that was it. In retrospect, I think he could have opened up more, but he was so dominant on top....it was just truly impressive. And I don't like watching a guy ride someone out for...what, 6 minutes, but it was impossible to not respect it.