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Everyone should quit worrying about this. Seeds at 125 do not matter this year - you could wrestle this weight 10 times and 16 different wrestlers would be AAs. It's a crapshoot, wide-open weight this year.

I'm in. I recommend using LeagueSafe to secure payments and payouts when interacting with strangers on the interwebs.

Farva, I mean Pindrickson, is about to go down as the greatest perennial 3rd placer of all time. He would have been smoked (again) by Gable but it would have been nice to see him get a moment in the lights Saturday night once in his career. One of my favorite offensive technicians and hammers on top at any weight. Hopefully another Gorarrian eases the sting a little bit.

The only reasonable resolution is the main event at the next StalesMates card

Zach Glazier is going to have 21,000 people rooting for him to do the funniest thing Thursday night

If Cox stayed down at 86 then what's to say the Yazdani vs. USA results are any different? Transitive property and such, but he beat Taylor 4x and Taylor only lost to Yazdani once at a trap-game 21 worlds.

Taylor and Dake both sit below Burroughs and Cox. They could not beat either for multiple years and should be rated accordingly. It is not hyperbole to say that if Cox was able to stay down at 86 that David Taylor may have never made a single team if you also factor in JB moving to 79 as their catch-weight after he also lost to Dake at the 2020ne trials and beyond. Obviously we will never know, but it certainly would have been a very realistic outcome that Burroughs, Dake, and Cox continued their winning ways if Taylor shifted weights. Would he have attempted 92 at any point? That may rub some people the wrong way, but that does not mean it is wrong. Burroughs, Smith, Big Bruce, Snyder in that order is Mt. Rushmore. Kemp takes home the final spot because he was robbed of the opportunity in 1980 as an all-time what-if. JB gets top billing over Smith for winning tournaments that required zero losses. '84 and '21 come with hard asterisks unfortunately.

Metcalf lost at least once per season every year he was allowed to wrestle so in retrospect losing to Caldwell, who he teched, wasn't that big of a surprise. 07 spladled by Caldwell during the season (champ) 08 lost to Caldwell in the finals (runner-up) 09 lost to Lance Palmer at B1Gs (champ)

There is a Nebraska dynasty that loves to set records + win games at the football stadium and we ain't talkin bout the football team.

Barr has a higher PIN rating and we all know that's what is most important

My addition was wrong which simply reinforces i am an idiot on the internet

@nhs67 just went from six to midnight

Ran into him at the store the other day. He was buying this stuff and said "I got a surprise in a few weeks." Now we know what he was talking about!

It still blows my mind that either Haines or KOT is going to end up as "only" a two-time NCAA champ after next weekend.

The real MVP is the compliance officer at Little Rock. Michigan's Dept of International Eligibility is going to throw such a huge bag to get them into Ann Arbor asap

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What does 97/125KG have to do with 125 pounds NCAA folkstyle? My point was only that Lee was the recent exception, far from the rule. If anything, unless you are a world destroyer then 125 results mean nothing. Even recent 57kg world champ Micic proves this true.. and he ran the THE freakin gauntlet for a much, much more important world title he never earned at NCAAs. 125 is too difficult a weight for the majority of American elites to maintain. That was the essence of my previous message.

125 is always bonkers and is a ridiculously hard weight to maintain and as pointed out even Lee was no exception. Senior results should always carry much more, well, weight at this weight class considering this is the 106/113/120 of the next level. Don't care, yell at a brick wall, exceptions are not the rules. They bump up or finally make the podium their senior year when the big dogs move up, it is what it is. *I never made the podium so I'm not hating just pointing out the popular observation.

I don't see anyone in this class cutting down to 97 so I suppose that's a moot point eh? Also, you cannot disregard Snyder beating Cox in college when they both were about to earn Olympic medals, Gwiz when he was about to win both of his, and Coon when he had his. And of course Snyder never weighed in more than 229 but arguing about weight classes is semantics when it comes to heavyweight apparently.

I think Pucino has a puncher's chance for that 9th NQ. That's step one. Step two is showing up when it matters most in a couple weeks. Illinois can do this.

Snyder (highest=gold 4x), Gwiz (bronze 2x), Coon (silver 1x) Gable (gold), Parris (bronze), Kerk (none) And the counts matter. Snyder 9 + Gwiz 2 + Coon 1 Gable + Parris + Kerk = two. Total. 12>2. 4 golds>1 gold. If you think otherwise then I hate to break it to you but your math ain't mathin'

How this era is going

There are only two of us on this forum that if a person said back in October "Illinois is going to have 1 Big Ten champion, 2 finalists, and at least 8 qualifiers" that we would have nodded our head and said "Poeta 1, Jombo zero. See ya in March." This one was for him.

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