uncle bernard

race continues to shift

No, he was committed to debating Biden September 10th on ABC. Now, he has withdrawn his commitment to that debate. September 10th on ABC.

Semantics and cope. He went from agreeing to debate Harris to "well, I'll decide after the DNC." There was a second debate scheduled and he is not committing to that debate.

Why'd he pull out of the debate?

Bottom line: Running against a guy who can't remember his own name gave Republicans far too much confidence in this election. He picked a horrible VP who is already floundering and he's still Donald Trump, an 80 year old who barely speaks coherently with extremely high unfavorable who underperforms most other Republicans.

SCARED. TO. COMPETE.

Not true. The polls in 2020 were pretty solid and the Republicans underperformed in 2022.

I don't really care who wins. I won't be voting for Harris. The dems are aiding a genocide in Gaza. You keep assuming I'm some fanboy. I despised Harris in the primary. I'm just telling you she has a real shot at this. You keep citing data points that are not permanent, trending away from your prediction, and at the same time say that all of the Dem senate candidates are going to regress because it's still early. It's incoherent.

Your point would hold if the national race numbers were permanent. They're not. Kamala has already made gains. So, will the Senate races and national race fall in line? Probably! But that doesn't mean the Dem senate candidates will collapse. There are clearly enough people willing to vote Democrat in those states, just not for Joe Biden. Well, Joe Biden is gone. That was my point in bringing up the senate polling. There are enough people open to voting Democrat for Kamala to win those states. It's strange that you can't understand that, but try to waive off senate polling "this early in the cylce." Yes, it's early! That's what I'm telling you. The Democratic candidate just went from an 80 year old white man with extremely visible cognitive decline to a 59 year old black woman. That's a pretty big change. And yet, you're acting like Biden's horrible numbers are set in stone and there's nothing Harris can do to improve them.

it’s time for bed grandpa

Coons is Biden’s lap dog. Of course he’s going to try to spin for Joe’s legacy. History won’t remember it that way.

SCARED TO COMPETE!

This is laughably untrue. There was only 1 split ticket result in 2020 (Susan Collins in Maine when Biden won the state) and 0 in 2016. There is an extreme correlation between senate and national elections.

Okay, you did Ohio. Trump's lost every other state listed.

One last thing to keep in mind is that the Dem senate candidates are leading in the polls in most of the swing states. Biden was running far behind the rest of his party. Now that there's a sentient candidate, we might see those polls swing quickly. Dem Senate candidates are leading in Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, PA, and Nevada. @PortaJohn

"This entire thing is made up and there's a reason for this. He doesn't know what I was like as a child because he quite simply wasn't there."

Which is why it will be fun to revisit after the election. But to address the "cherry picking" the RCP average has Trump up 2 points and half the polls used in it haven't put out polling after Biden dropped out yet. There's been very little swing state polling in the last week, though the of the few that have been, every one I've seen has Harris gaining. I'm not saying Trump has no chance. He's still the favorite. I'm just pointing out your position that Kamala has no chance is bizarre and not supported by evidence.

Where are you seeing this?

Probably because she's Palestinian and has family in Palestine getting bombed by Israel. "Why would anyone be upset about a war that's killed 50,000 people?" Btw, the current estimate for total death toll - including indirect deaths like disease, starvation, and deprivation - is 186,000. That number is based on number trends from prior conflicts around the world for the ratio of direct to indirect deaths. 186,000 people in a strip of land 25 miles long. You can ride a bike across it in an afternoon.

What's happening here is so transparent. You guys were all excited for there to be chaos at the convention. Instead, the whole party rallied around Kamala immediately - like I told you it would. Now you're disappointed, so you're whining about it being undemocratic. The polling was clear that the vast majority of democratic voters wanted Biden to step aside and the vast majority of those were perfectly fine with Kamala stepping in. There is no time for a primary, which is why there are exceptions in the rules to account for emergencies. Not a single one of you would be saying the republicans shouldn't be on the ballot if Trump got his head blown off because it would be "undemocratic." Every single voter will have a chance to say yes or no to Kamala. You are acting like Biden was just reelected and then stepped down to sneak Kamala in.

She started campaigning two days ago and she's already gained in swing state polling. You can keep pretending that the Trump v. Biden polling is permanent, but nothing is set in stone right now.

You’re fundamentally misunderstanding the problem. (You rarely follow a conversation correctly on here anyway so i’m not surprised). Nobody says you have to like the VP, but when you vote you are signing off on them being 2nd in line. Democrats might not “like” Kamala, but they did vote for her.

Obviously, everybody would prefer to have had an open primary. This isn't a normal circumstance. There is no time or infrastructure for that in this situation which is why *both parties* have rules written into their nomination process to account for these emergency situations. If democrats do not consent to Kamala being the nominee, they have the choice not to vote for her in the general. Just like supporters of the normal primary losers are welcome not to vote for the nominee in the general. I supported Bernie in 2020 and did not vote for Biden in the general. That's democracy.

This is still voting for Joe Biden. Doesn't matter what your reason is. If you voted for Joe Biden then you voted for Joe Biden.