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You can tie it at Oklahoma State with Rex Peery and Ross Flood (though Flood had 1 lose) The only downside with the early day wrestlers is the low match totals. Van Bebber had 22 total matches in three years, Caldwell had 18, Peery had 29 and Flood had 32.

Duh. Starocci and Brooks

does a 1-2 punch need to be back to back? and I do not think we will find a better 1-2 in the four year era, but it will not stop me from trying

This is a better way to do it. You get more engagement, more debate. I am just not creative enough to come up with good questions like this.

Such a non-sequitor. I have never claimed support for any of them. You keep forgetting I am a Republican who is unhappy with Trump, and with the Republican Party for bowing to him, not a Democrat.

Nothing like a Nazi joke to show you do not understand.

I know you would rather re-litigate the Biden years than talk about what Trump is actively failing to do right now. When you finish building that time machine let us all know.

perhaps it does, but I would not know that from personal experience.

"If elected I will end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours “We get a lot of bull*I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “He’s very nice to us all the time, but it turns out to be meaningless.” “That’s how it is,” Mr. Putin went on. “Real life is always more complicated than the idea of it.” On Wednesday, Russia launched 728 exploding drones and decoys, according to Ukraine’s air force. That was 189 more drones than during the previous record volley of 539 drones, which came on Friday. Meanwhile, with a straight face, Trump claims he has no idea who halted deliveries of weapons to Ukraine.

Maybe I should put him to work QAing the tournie data?

It did not just allow for hateful remarks, it created them. Out of whole cloth. https://www.theringer.com/2025/07/09/tech/ai-x-grok-elon-musk-linda-yaccarino-hitler "This week, though, the bot lost its nonexistent mind to a completely new degree, promoting nakedly antisemitic conspiracy theories, praising Hitler, and ranting about white genocide in a surreally exaggerated tone of Very Online glee. " There are some real shocking details in that article and other articles it links to. Of course it isn't Musk's fault. So Yaccarino must take the fall. But this was always her fate. Taking a job where you are Musk's figurehead boss, the "CEO in name only" to his "Chief Technology Officer (ha ha, who are we kidding?)" was always doomed to fail. This is precisely the kind of scenario she was kept around for. All of this is so very, very disgusting, but the most important paragraph from the article is: "I’m going to assume, for the sake of my own sanity, that you think all this is bad. But maybe you don’t think it’s that bad? Maybe there’s a small part of you that’s like, “OK, whatever, some knobs got turned and some ugly things got said, but the process of technological advancement always includes setbacks. They’ll learn from this, and it won’t happen again.” I’d ask you to consider, though, the possibility that this latest Grok incident is in fact a reason to be very, very frightened of AI chatbots generally. I’d ask you to consider the possibility that it will happen again, that it will go on happening for as long as this technology is in the hands of oligarchs like Musk, and that the really dangerous thing is that it won’t always be this overt. It will go on happening, only once the technology is properly tuned, we won’t be able to see it happening, and that will be much more damaging."

Bored?

Soooooo happy for him, his wife, his children, and his parents to see him coming out the other side.

Stay tuned. The data for 2004 - 2011 does not yet specify SV or TB, but it will. Unfortunately though, some brackets do not say if it was SV-1, SV-2, or later (i.e. after rideouts) so those brackets will understate how many went to the first set of rideouts. But for 2012 - 2025 37.3% of OT matches went past SV-1

No worries. Sadly I only have searchable match by match data for the tournament. And even that took a massive effort by @cowcards and @grogs84

BTW. Sneaky second is Caleb Smith with 8 OT matches (6-2) Another fun fact is that all the high usage rate guys are good at OT matches. Only one of the top 40 by volume has a sub-.500 record.

6 is his tournament total. Are you including regular season?

Rocco has a ways to go to catch Morningstar. At 3 Welsh is currently ranked 147th on the list. And while 3 is a lot for one tournament, it is not the most. In 2011 Illinois heavy, John Lockhart went to OT 4 straight matches.

At 6 OT matches, Lewan (4-2) is tied for 9th all time.

Making an eating bet with a wrestler AFTER a match is a fool's errand Edit: Same with swimmers

The 3-point thread got me thinking about overtime. Though the methods for deciding tied matches have changed a lot over time*, overtime became a permanent way to decide them in 1957. While highly variable from 1957 to 2025, the percentage of overtime matches has been generally growing. During the continuous use of overtime, the percentage of overtime matches has never been higher than in this past season at 10.8%. (The only thing that has me scratching my head is the drop off in 2016 and 2017. There were a few rule changes in 2016 that may, or may not, have led to the drop off (5 second rule, one of three calls for going OB), but it is not obvious to me that they do. If anyone has an opinion here, just shout it out.) Too Much Is Never Enough We have already discussed the individual overtime leaders, Illinois heavy John Lockhart (7-0 career OT record) for win % and Iowa 165 Ryan Morningstar (6-3) for volume, but who are the team leaders? There is obviously a volume story here. The more years you go and the more wrestlers you send, the more OT matches you will have. So let's look at that first (minimum 75 OT matches). No surprise that the two most dominant teams in history, Oklahoma State and Iowa, also dominate the list of OT matches and OT wins. More surprising is that with such a high use rate Iowa also has the highest win rate at 61.8%. At the other end of the spectrum is NC State. They really need to get it done in regulation as their OT win % is an anemic 40.7% Or Maybe It Is? But that analysis misses a few things. Just because you win a lot of OT matches does not mean you want to go to OT. Most teams have a lower winning percentage in OT than in regulation. Oklahoma State REALLLLLY wants to avoid overtime. Their regulation win % is 16.4% higher than their overtime win %. Purdue, on the other hand, wants to lure you into the deep water where they have a significantly better chance of winning (+9.8%) Central Michigan has probably optimized things. They get to overtime more frequently than anyone else AND they increase their win % once they are there by 6.7%.

I would think that someone will want to submit a big number immediately so that they can challenge a rejection in court.

Not a hard cap, per se. Any deal over $600 has to be submitted to the clearinghouse for approval based on its relation to "market value". I put that in parentheses because they defined market value (value in an open market) a little different than what we think of it (whatever someone will pay). If the deal is over fair market value it will be rejected. There are a whole lotta problems with their defenition, though. The stock market is, by any definition, an open market, and yet there are any number of stock prices that bear no relation to the value of their assets (Bed Bath and Beyond, DJT, Strategy, and many other crypto treasury companies). These stocks would probably spit out of the NIL Go algo as overvalued and get rejected even though their prices are decided in an open market.

So much the better to renew you with.