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This is the kind of thread that makes me jealous that I do not have the same kind of shared history as you guys. On the other hand, I could do ear modeling.

Pistols at dawn. In one of the other threads I made the point that this was just accounting, not an argument for "best".

The 2023 bracket rules the roost (for now). The only substantive difference between 2023 and 2024 is the swap of Shane Griffith for Mitchell Mesenbrink. Once Mesenbrink completes his four years it is likely that 2024 will surpass 2023.

Ooh, I hit a nerve.

No, I would rather you stay dumb, so very very dumb.

Beware the inside trip

I have not a clue what that has to do with what I said. You are really trying too hard to shoehorn something in.

My bad. I was looking at the NQ and forgetting it was 2020. But with regard to O'Toole and Hall, it is not clear to me they would have taken a redshirt year under different circumstances. Many people have pointed out that studs want to go, they don't want to sit. But even if they would have redshirted I think having a fifth tournament is an advantage in that fifth tournament as long as it does not come with injury (Eierman).

And they do in that poll. Harris had by far the highest total with 23 compared to 7 for all 12 Republicans combined. Again, not the "own" you think it is. This whole thing is just so dumb when you guys don't even do the smallest amount of inquiry.

Trumpeting zero votes when there were only a handful of black people in the poll is hardly the "own" you think it is.

2024 is a tough one to place because you have a bunch of guys who got five tournaments and had their highest ever finish in the fifth year (Carr, Olejnik, Hall) and O'Toole with a third place. I am sure there are some others in the non-AA spots. I will have to take a more in depth look tomorrow.

Vivek Ramaswami, Ron DeSantis, Kristi Noem, Ted Cruz, Glenn Youngkin, Brian Kemp, and Scott Bessent among Republican's listed in the survey also got zero mentions from black voters. JD Vance led all Republican candidates with a whopping 3 mentions from black voters. The 12 Republican candidates listed got a total of 7 mentions among them from black voters. That is about a half more than Buttigieg.

How are they bracketed?

Amen. Now get all that damn sugar out of the cereal too. I get diabetic just looking at that bowl of "fruit" loops.

I don't think it needs its own thread so I will toss this into @BruceyB's thread as the mirror image. There have been 14 brackets (out of 572, 2.4%) where the top 8 seeds finished in the top 8, but none where they finished in seed order. The 2013 133 bracket came closest with the top 4 seeds finishing in that order, and no wrestler missing his seed by more than two spots. The 2006 149 bracket was a very close second.

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1993 was the year Oklahoma State was banned from the NCAA tournament. Presumably he transferred to avoid having to sit out that tournament.

Another way I was going to do it was cumulative points at that point in their career, but that is a lot more work. I will do it at some point.

For three of the 2010 AAs it was their only visit to the podium. And the 2010 title was the only title won by the group.

Speaking of 157... It is also home to the least accomplished bracket (measured by career points at NCAAs). With a mere 285 total career points, it is less than half of the total the 2014 bracket put on the board.

Another noteworthy fact about 2014. It is the highest "non-fifth year included" scoring bracket in the quarter century. The only higher scoring brackets all come from 2022. This also brings up the point that the brackets from 2023-2025 are disadvantaged by my method because many wrestlers in them still have many points to score.

And it all comes down to depth. While 2018 has higher point totals at the top, 2014 blows 2018 away with higher point totals for 21 of the 25 scoring wrestlers in each bracket (with one tie).

I like to give people some time to respond before spoiling a good conversation with a bunch of nerd talk. Speaking of nerd talk... 2014 does run away with it here.

Pham went from barely speaking English in 1992 to majoring in ceramic engineering at UofI in 2000. That is some brains.

It all comes back to swimming. As I pounded out the miles everyday I started distracting myself by doing math in my head. Especially fractions and percentages. I always wanted to know what was done and what was left. Sometimes I would do conversions. I would change from yards to feet to inches or convert from meters to yards. Now I like making pictures that explain numbers. I just had an "ah ha" moment about a question a client wanted me to work on, cranked out a compelling (I think) visualization for them, and now I can't wait to share it tomorrow.