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Hold on! When did Nelson Brands get involved here?

At least he got the escape this time.

He has put a pace on his peers for as long as he has wrestled. I think he certainly is gifted genetically for aerobic work similarly to a guy like Messenbrink or sujeet for that matter. He also seems to train like a maniac and I am sure wrestles that pace all of the time in practice which I think is a big differentiator as well especially internationally. A lot of the international guys simply do not train super hard all the time I would say in some ways they train more efficiently and maybe better technically but Bo seems to be the case of elite genetics which I am sure probably is what made him develop the style that he has. Someone once said "Michael phelps does not look like Michael phelps because he swims he swims because he looks the way he does" I would imagine Bo and his coaches realized early on you can push the pace like a son of a gun and they weaponized that.

Not sure that your comment is accurate in any way. Especially since fraud happened and the thing u keep tossing out there didn’t

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Nooooo you’ve exposed us to AI! They’re gonna be watching our threads now lol For real though AI is horribly inaccurate with wrestling information. I think that’s been shown here several times with wrong results, bios, weights…

Product placement.

No idea. Too busy looking at the blondes in the second row.

I'm not positive but IIRC this has been talked about on FRL. I believe it was essentially started with the intention of settling the top guy at each weight (or close to it) for the upcoming season, but when Flo would reach out to athletes/coaches and inquire about an athletes weight/plans they would essentially just be fed whatever information would get the athlete on the card. I think Flo just had to accept the reality that coaches and athletes would not necessarily be forthcoming with their true intentions and now have more of a "best two guys that can make the weight even though we can't guarantee they will both be competing at said weight in the future" attitude. Which, to be fair, I don't really know what else you can do if you're Flo, and I don't fault a kid for wanting the opportunity and honor of competing in such a showcase event, even if it requires them to claim they have an intent to wrestle a weight class that they don't intend on wrestling.

I think the question is this: is it an event or does it set the rankings for the top spot for the preseason? I mean that’s what I think it boils down to. Either way yes good wrestling, but preferences of the particular details are probably based on what one feels the event is. Most wrestlers would take the call either way, it probably makes little difference to them. I’m not sure on allowances etc but you hear things. Id say most just look at it like a card as opposed to an event that should set the preseason #1, which many of those matches can get run back. Idk my two cents.

On FRL the guys were discussing the Iowa lineup and I thought they were potentially overly optimistic and CP said he could see them as high as 3 and no lower than 5 on the merit of paraphrasing "The Brands always finish top 5" I simply do not agree with either of those assesments I think for one this is one of the most top heavy fields we've ever had and by that I mean I think the top 8 teams or so are all really freaking good, and I also cannot recall an Iowa team since I have been following college wrestling that has less sure things. 125: 2nd and 3rd was thrown around and do not get me wrong I am a big fan of Leo Deluca but we have 1 match in his college sample that is including u20's because he has not competed in that either and in that 1 match he beat Mack Mauger 2-0 who I think at his very best is a r12 guy this year. The prediction was based on "really big recruit" "Iowa 125" "reports he looks great in the room" and while I understand 125 is volatile when we are talking about a freshman being a high podium guy I need more than the quotes above and most notable results being losing a close one to Knox in 2023 and beating Blaze in 2022 2 months after Blaze lost to Jake Crapps. my prediction: Ceiling 7th Floor r16 133: This is probably one one of Iowa's lock weight which is partially why I am so pessimistic about them. Crookham is incredible as evident by beating Vito twice but I think there are a lot of reasons to be concerned here. The obvious one being he has had one full season in the last 6 years going all the way back to missing his junior year of high school and a big part of his senior year. When you couple that with putting him in the toughest weight in the country from a top 5 perspective coupling that in with there now being much more familiarity with how he wants to wrestle, I think he will be in some dogfights with guys like Van dee, Andricck, Lopes, Knox. my prediction: Ceiling 4th Floor injury or 7th 141: Nasir was wrestling much more like the guy we have come to expect towards the end of last season, he did fall short of the podium, but I liked what I saw and he has had another off season to grow a bit more into 141. Nasir is notorious for choosing neutral in the third down 1-0 and staring at his opponent so if he stops doing that he’s probably going to win 3-4 more matches than he usually would. I have been on record saying I think 141 is going to be one of the weaker weights this year if everyone goes where we are anticipating. Given that I think that Nasir has a strong chance to get back on the podium but I do not see him creeping into that top 4. my Prediction: Ceiling 5th Floor r16 149: Ryder Block is very good and generally given the type of year he had and his age I would be super bullish on him. However this weight went from being arguably one of the weakest last year to one of the strongest and I am not entirely sure where he falls. He did have SVN on the ropes at big10’s but you cannot argue he fits into that tier 1 which is the 3 national champs + SVN so that’s 4 spots on the podium. Then you have Jaxon Joy, Seth Mendoza, Sergio Lemley, Echemendia, Frost, Buesgens, Larkin. I think Block can beat some of those guys but I also think he could lose to any of them. That makes it very hard for me to be confident that he AA’s again. my prediction: Ceiling 7th Floor r16 157: Jordan Williams on his best day can probably go with just about anyone at this weight. I was excited about his season after a very strong summer but once again given recent circumstances we are left to wonder just how locked In he is. Fortunately, we could have some clarity on that at u23’s. Ultimately it is hard to foresee Jordan putting together enough matches in a row at nationals to be a huge contributor although I think he has all the ability to do so. Ceiling 7th Floor Does not compete at the end of the season 165: I expect that Schubert improves his wrestling this year in an on paper much better training environment with PK and Caliendo as well as Gabe. However this weight is rather deep so to predict him confidently to do much better than round of 12 is not something I feel very strongly about. There is the element of him dropping in weight that could be good for him but I also believe 165 next year could be much deeper than 174 was this past season. Kannon webster could be going up adding another huge threat to the top that already includes PJ, Ruiz, Blaze, Lockett then you have guys like Will Denny, Bryce Hepner, Noah Ninninger, LJ Araujo, Noah Ninninger those all feel like 50/50 matches to me for Schubert. Ceiling 5th Floor r12 174: After AA’ing up at 197 and now returning to his best weight class Gabe feels very safe to AA and I think he will and could place very highly on the podium. I am not sure I would go as far as to say I could see him wrestling on Saturday night like the flow guys did, I do not know that I feel its in his range of outcomes to beat a Minto or MM but I could certainly see a top 3 finish. We have not as of yet seen Gabe show an ability to separate himself from guys in that top 20ish range though which is always scary when you’re having 1 exchange matches potentially from round 2 on at nationals. Ceiling 3rd Floor r12 184: Recency bias makes me want to put him as the clear 4 out of the big guys at this weight, however it cannot be forgotten that he is 2-0 against Sinclair who would probably be my pick gun to my head to win it next year. Ultimately if he can get on his offense more I think he can be the best but having to beat 2 or 3 of these guys in sudden victory is a daunting task. Ceiling 1st floor 4th 197: I actually thought Harvey had a better redshirt year than a lot of people gave him credit for. All of his losses were competitive and while losing to Nelson and Platt is not ideal when you are expecting someone to be a big point scorer we have seen crazier jumps from a redshirt year to a first year in the lineup. I think Harvey is probably more of a guy that we see make steady year over year progress, and I am not predicting him on the podium this year but I think he will have very good moments. Ceiling r16 floor DNQ 285: Under the assumption Doucet is not starting Keuter should be the preseason favorite, although if you think about Doucet not starting because Ross is the guy it does not take a ton of extrapolation to think he is the favorite but I digress. Keuters ceiling is a national champion but seeing him lose to any of Ross, Merrill, Mirasola 1a or 1b, Feldman, Ziola, Carroll would not surprise me and I would pick a few of them over him personally. Ceiling 1st floor 6th I could be overly critical and underselling some of these guys but the token of their floor being 5th with by my estimate 3 all American locks when I believe teams behind them have much higher floors and potentially even ceilings for that matter is just to me an oversight.

Maybe their rioting usaid funding was nixed by king Elon

"Most people in this forum" haven't bothered to lend it the credence you did.

Oh gosh it was a match in the Iowa Minnesota dual I think that we wagered on and I had the Minnesota guy he lost but he got it back at nationals! I have kept it to humble myself it expired long ago. or maybe I am into cucking and did not know it who knows.

Stilly ain't big enough for all them Nits.

They closed the University ... students are scrambling to transfer.

State workers are on record saying their jobs were threatened if they didn't shut up about the fraud. If it wasn't for Nick Shirley it would still be happening. Walz has only blame.

That was an all-timer Minnow crashout. Made his fans harass Mrs. Kasak to give him an apology. If it turns out it's Kasak involved in this, I wonder if he makes it a point to change the narrative that he was right for posting negative slander about the kid.

Google says he left Flo in November 2019; so my guess is the 2019 card

UNI Schedule is out

I thinks there an abnormal something in your blood right now.

USAID - 10x more fraud and wast than we give to Israel. I’ll bet @red viking is mad about this

And they've already had trouble with Kasak's mom after posting false info about him...

If this was a made up post on this forum, I love how it fooled the minnow and his little toe sucker.

Here's the AI update: Where the rumor originated The claim that “three Penn State wrestlers” are wanted comes from a forum post on InterMat College Wrestling InterMat Wrestling+1. That post and subsequent replies do not cite any official police statement, university press release, or credible news outlet. Multiple participants in the thread note there is “zero information” confirming the wrestlers’ involvement InterMat Wrestling.

... narcissistic giffery

Human garbage.

Are you really trying to claim that marriage to a 9-year-old and marrying a 24 year old are the same morally? You literally defend a religion that sanctions child brides and condemn a man who married a 24-year-old woman. Your moral compasses is in need of serious calibration.

the 12 year old on the left looks familiar....starting to doubt Cinnabon's claim he's the next kyle dake....

your schtick is so lame. Post all day, do nothing but try to insult people, crowbar in lame anecdotes about athletes parents, vapid analysis. Its not that you're too good for X, you're not good enough.

woods is screwed, jackson is in his corner.

There are no topics you’re not angry about boss.

The most impressive part of it is it's never the same guy either 2026 - Klinsky 2025 - Alvarez 2024 - Kinner 2023 - Laird 2022 - 2021 - Dellavecchia

I'd say Block doesn't wrestle like the Iowa guys who stagnate, he must remind the Brands of randy lewis or something, but I think he will actually keep getting better. 5th.

I'll be there for the MAC tourney this year; got my hotel booked already! Ms ScottishSteel is from Chicagolands so she'll visit her folks while I'm at MAC tourney then coming south with our kiddo and we are gonna do the City Museum in St Louis the day after the tourney too.

Exit the warrior,

are wide

Maybe as his eyes

Love and life

the world is

The world is,

catch the spit

Forgot to mention we're good friends

Innocent, the time we spent

The less I find that I understand

The more I get to know

The less I find that you give a damn

The more I show the way I feel