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After Kagami won, almost all of their Olympic team is complete. Japan's rule is that if you medal at this World Championships at an Olympic weight, the Olympic spot is yours. So: 50kg- Susaki(2023 World Champion) 53kg- Fujinami(In the finals tomorrow night) 57kg- Sakurai(2023 World Champion) 62kg- Motoki(In the finals tomorrow night) 68kg-Ishii if she wins bronze tomorrow night 76kg- Kagami(2023 World Champion)

Wow, this MFS tourney took some unexpected twists. I mean I didn’t see Micic winning Gold or SeaBass winning Silver. I didn’t see many of the big names from Europe and what not, having the outcomes that they had. Honestly I didn’t think Zain would win Gold either, but he really was focused, and got it done. Vito, has looked like he’s been on a mission for a while now, but I didn’t see him winning the title but I did think he’d medal with a Silver or Bronze. So great for Vito, question is, what does he do in 24, like Zain Zahid knocked off a very tough Iranian and then lost, and I thought he reversed Metcalf himself, but he crunched his way to the Bronze medal, excellent effort. Parris wow, I mean wow, he almost got into the finals so I like what I saw from him. I think Parris will hold down the spot for the immediate future anyway. Dake I think he’s having weight issues, (I don’t have any inside info), but that’s what it looks like to me. He just doesn’t look like he’s the same Dake bomb kind of guy. I know that he’s probably heavily scouted, so there is that, but he just doesn’t seem to move around like he used to. I could be wrong though. Snyder, well obviously the landscape is changing, with up and comers, from Bahrain, Georgia, Azerbaijan, question is what can Snyder do. I think he’s definitely going to have to analyze everything that went on here and make some adjustments. Lee, did well, he looked better than he looked earlier in the year, so I was kind of impressed. Richards is a very good wrestler, and I don’t know if he makes another team, but if he does, I believe he will do much better. Marsteller, is also a a very good wrestler and I put him in basically the same position as Richards. And then there’s David Taylor, well what can you say, he’s like a wrestling immortal, he’s just on another level. It makes me think though, how good Aaron Brooks must be.

Nice win for Adeline! Really impressive coming back to the sport after twins.

I just noticed wrestlers raised in Indiana have scored more points than any other US state in this year's world championships. Clearly, this indisputable data point indicates that Indiana is the Dagestan of the United States. Sorry Pennsylvania. Too bad, Ohio. New Jersey? Meh. Hoosierland is the place to be to win matches at Worlds.

5-0 shutout... work(person) like bronze medal "W" for Hildebrandt. She'll take it, thankewverymuch. D3

Flo's attitude here.

I actually think the three ILLINOIS wrestlers have good draws. They all get winnable matches in the first round. Then, for Kamal Bey, his toughest opponent before the semifinals is a guy he doubled up at the last ranking series tournament. That fellow is the #1 seed, but Bey has shown he can beat him. Joe Rau has a guy in the first round that he pinned two years ago, and Zac Braunagel gets a young fellow who is 1-4 in age-group Asian Championships. But the best part of their draws is their second round matches. They both get Greco legends. So, they either shock the world or have a nice chance for repechage. Remember, though, they don't call me Homelander for nothing!

Not that many. You seem like a John Smith fan. Smith's international career spanned 1987-1992 inclusive. His international record in that time was 100-5 and 77-3 in domestic freestyle competition. Between 2011 and 2017 (1 more year than Smith's career) Burroughs was 152-5 overall in freestyle. He lost once in domestic competition - that 2017 WTT match to Dake 6-6 on criteria. He lost 4 times in international events, 4-4 to Marable at 2014 Yasar Doug, 2-9 to Tsargush at 2014 Worlds, 2-3 too Guduev at the 2016 Olympics, and 11-1 to Abdurakhmonov also at the 2016 Olympics.

57 Spencer. This is it. This is the hill I'm tearing my ACLs on. 65 Yianni. Beats Lee day 1, McKenna the bridesmaid once again Day 2 74 Dake. Nolf over JB day 1 86 Taylor. Zahid over Brooks day 1 97 Snyder. Cox over Moore day 1. 125 Parris (unless Gable decides to show up and hustle freestyle fans again). Hendrickson over Kerk day 1

Every damn time.

Guy has his own tinfoil hat to wear. Let him. It helps him sleep.

Who got bribed on that one was my immediate thought.

Antim loses on a challenge of exposure at the buzzer. Did not look to me she was anywhere close. Horrible loss.

First off dum dum, you won't and will never be able to tell me how to do a freaking thing...you are an idiot and anyone who listens to you and takes advice from you would be out of their freaking mind. I truly feel sorry for any child you may have had as a student. I can only hope your online persona is an act; however, based on your arrogance and narcissistic behavior, pretty sure you are probably like this in real life too...God help those kids!! 99% of the time I don't take this forum very seriously, but the one thing that is serious is that you are disease to this forum. You make every topic about yourself. You get into arguments with pretty much every single person on here and you then try and play the victim. Do us all a favor and actually stand by your words for once and cancel yourself already...this forum will be a much better place without you!

Without actually diving in to it to see who will get what seed... I think the topside of will be Richards (1) vs either Fix or Lee (4/5) in the semi-finals. I have Fix or Lee winning that one. It is possible NATO gets seeded over Lee, which pushes Lee to 6th. Not sure there. I don't think Colon gets a good seed. Could be 8/9 and play spoiler to Richards. I think Garrett probably tries to go up again? Not sure. Gross is definitely in there too for a 5/6 seed (maybe ahead of Lee as well?). Richards should be the 1 either way. I think Gilman gets the 2, Suriano the 3, Fix/Lee/Gross some combo of 4/5/6 with NATO possibly being 5 ahead of Gross/Lee. So for 57 KG I have this... and it's just... bonkers... Not sure on Desanto and Garrett as far as weights... 1 - Richards 2 - Gilman 3 - Suriano 4 - Fix 5 - Desanto 6 - NATO 7 - Gross 8 - Lee 9 - Colon 10 - Comacho That is bonkers right? So I have Lee (Sorry @ILLINIWrestlingBlog) VS Fix in the topside Semifinals. I have Gilman-Suriano in the bottom QF for the right to meet Arujau. I think Arujau beats Suriano but not Gilman and I think Gilman-Suriano is a toss-up, but Gilman-Gross is also a toss-up as is Suriano-NATO. Styles make matches. Gilman destroys NATO but not Suriano and Gross is a bad matchup for Suriano, but Gilman isn't. Add in that Arujau is going to be at least a couple/few hours after weigh-ins and fresh. Either way I have Arujau VS a healthy Lee in the finals. I still have faith in Lee. If Garrett goes down then he goes in above Fix at the 4 seed. If Desanto goes up, move everyone up. My guess is Desanto goes down and Garrett goes up. Arujau, weighed in and in a best of three up against Lee? I think Arujau is just too fast and takes it. Recency bias aside... if he makes that decent well... his toughest test will be Gilman who has already had at least two (2) tough matches before he meets him. 57 KG - Arujau

As a reminder... this is how stupid 57 KG will look (Arujau), 65 KG will look (Retherford), 86 KG will look (Valencia). For 57 KG and 65 KG the topside Semi-final winners will move on the the best of three finals against the bottom side semifinals winner between the 61/70 KG medalists and bottom side quarter-finals match winner. For 86 KG, those winners will face off for the right to meet DT in the Bo3 Day 2.

Lost first match 3-2. Woman she lost to can pull her back in with one more win.

You know you’re not good at handling data, but nothing is so misplaced as you’re arrogance.

Flo is honestly embarrassing the sport at this point. Arena was on top of it with the upcoming matches as well as how fluid it was through every single MFS day. All morning has been a pain in the ass and even yesterday had spots where it was shitty all-around. You'd think they would try to be consistent across all styles to show that they actually care about all styles. When it gets to greco, I expect rolling blackouts.

Brintil is wrestling for a medal. 2-1 victory for her.

You know what's cooler than an NCAA Championship? An Olympic Gold... I don't want to see to Vito what happened to Spencer Lee. In my opinion, the worst thing Lee ever did was wrestle at Iowa. His trajectory was through the roof. He should've healed those knees and went straight to the OTC. Now, us fans last memory of him is him looking up as the mat was slapped. I looooove college wrestling. Love it. But I am in love with World Dominance at the International level on all professional sports. I want 6 Golds in Paris for us! I just wish our best could get reps earlier. Hell, Snyder skipped his Senior year of High school to train, and look how that turned out for him!

Comparing Taz to Bolt is an absolute insult to this kid. He didn't big brother either of those guys. It was literally technique and leverage. I'm sorry, the guy isn’t all that muscular, at all. But when he gets more matured, physically, into 97, oh my.

MFS was by far the most insane WC I’ve witnessed. I need some aspirin before Greco starts! Along with the runs turned in by Miccic and T-dov, so much craziness went down that were not even talking about the guy who couldn’t qualify to challenge for the team spot at 86 so he bumped and won a world medal 14 pounds up. Also noted ten Americans won medals with six in the finals and four gold. That RTC system is pumpin.

The only thing I’ll counter is the idea that now Sadulaev will study him. He grew up under Sadulaev. Sadulaev’s coach coaches him as well.

Bruce lost to Tom Erickson, albeit I believe just once but right in the middle of his run. Smith lost to Lewis and John Fisher. JB lost to Dake, Marstellar, and Nick Marabel.

Emma Bruntil won by criteria 2-2... good work. D3

Big Bruce has 13 World and Olympic medals so he’s number one in my book. That’s over a decade of dominance. JB or John Smith, it’s a coin toss do you go with the perfect 6 in a row or do you go with JB’s number of titles and medals. I think it’s JB, he’s just put himself out there longer. Now it gets kind of murky, you could argue Snyder, David Schultz, Taylor, Dake, Kemp, and a few others. But right now it’s Snyder for me, but I think that could change in 2024, if Taylor and Dake win Gold. But Snyder has 2 Olympic medals, along with 3 World titles, and a few Silver and Bronze medals to go with that. So he like JB have just been out there standing the test of time, and still winning. Now one poster mentioned Adeline Gray, obviously a great wrestler, and maybe our greatest female wrestler, but I think the ladies should have their own list.

I am just curious how it would even work. Wrestling 133 all year before dropping to 57 for the Trials would be a real achievement. I don’t think it is a coincidence that Vito is wrestling at his very best after moving up in weight. He looks far healthier and stronger and mentally, he is laser focused and clear eyed. This is yet another example of the unfairness of Olympic vs Non-Olympic weights. He has to drop 10 lbs to compete while true 57s stay where they are. Would it ruin the sport to move the weight class to 59k? It would make 61k deeper while giving the 57s some relief.

I don't buy that 74kg and 97 kg would be stronger than 86 kg in terms of depth, unless people are actively avoiding Yaz and Taylor. Why is Russia so good at producing 74 kg and 97 kg wrestlers, and all of a sudden so bad at producing 86 kg wrestlers? This lack of 86 kg wrestlers despite decades of being the best at 84 (now 86) kg. Maybe Yazdani and Taylor are just much better than the field, and the field itself isn't really that weak.

1 - Kyle Dake 2 - David Taylor 3 - David Taylor 4 - David Taylor 5 - David Taylor 6 - David Taylor 7 - David Taylor 8 - David Taylor 9 - David Taylor 10 - David Taylor

Russia has no rules, they do what they want.

Kayla loses 6-3 against some Roman. Gave up 4 from the same slide by and 2 on a roll through on her cradle attempt.

Pending challenge, Bruntil a 5-3 winner against China. China was close to a takedown in the final seconds but never gained control. Challenge should be lost.

Elor 7-0 winner over Turkey. So strong with great timing. That's a pretty sweet combo.

Exactly! I think some version of this may be the best compromise of getting the best team and controlling your own destiny.

Russia dictates their people’s lives. We don’t do that over here. We allow people to go out and earn whatever they set their mind to. Sometimes it means we don’t get our best against the world team. But I personally would never vote to change to a system where a handful of people decides a team, or even a slot.

See Muskaev/Lebedev. Russia really blew it on that one.

Adeline Gray with the folkstyle half nelson for the pin. She wrestles for Bronze now, right? Kayla Miracle picks her opponent off the ground, holds her up, then walks her out of bounds for the tech. She had the strength to do that with about :10 left in the match.

Time for me to close shop and head out to work... will check up on the progress when I can. Good Luck, USA... D3

Don't know why she was on the clock. The Indian didn't really do anything in the 2nd period.

I'll go with not a fluke. Tazhudinov didn't overpower or overwork anyone. He did over-motion, over-reach and over-technique everyone. He was longer in dimension and fluid in motion. He did everything he could with those assets. His build is like David Taylor's but bigger: He can reach what he wants, and he does. I also think his challenges are about to get steeper. Yeah, he just whooped the best in the World, the extent of which is the most remarkable part, but they're gonna start to study him now. It's not that the table will turn, it'll just square. What's most impressive to me is that he made it look easy. Apologies for this folk style tangent, but he reminds me of Ed Ruth. Low intensity on the surface - relaxed as if it doesn't really matter; Lanky but somehow slick - they all walked into his game. We've all wrestled with a neck injury at some point, but I think he can touch Sadulaev's ankles anytime he wants, and he can direct Snyder's tail over his shoulders more easily than anyone else in this world. Not a Fluke

This is hardly fair - Tazhudinov is obviously physical but he beat both Kyle and AS with excellent technique and movement. He is 20 years old and just coming into his own - similar to B Satiev in the 1995 WCs. Boltakaev had been around quite a while and had made a sudden unexplainable leap in ability that was more physical than technique based - more akin to Ben Johnson than Buviar Satiev.

In fact, Kyle is about the exact age right now that David was when David won his first world title.

Facts are you lost. Eat it, grow up, and move on. You will be better for holding yourself accountable. This is coming from me of all people. The wisest and most logical of the bunch.

Definitely deserved suspicions but Taz looked pretty small compared to Snyder and Sadz. The scary part though is he's still filling into a full-sized grown man frame

They don't have a set in stone criteria in the same way we do. Your summation is basically correct--nationals are used to determine some weights, other weights are more or less reserved for their stars.

I knew an old cowboy who knew meat. I bought beef from him that was the very best I’ve ever had. He wanted his hamburgers charcoaled and his steaks broiled. When they’re good, they’re good.

Well known fact...

To me Taylor will forever be below JB and Dake given his record vs the two.

Obviously you can prefer what you want. But you're looking at it with a decided folkstyle bent and then deciding that it doesn't make sense because it doesn't follow a folkstyle philosophy. People in the rest of the world would go nuts if it were scored just 2 for Blue. Folkstyle philosophy wants decided control over a period of time. International styles are more about making the other move the way you want him to move- in particular by exposing his back. Even if only for a split second.