CHROMEBIRD Posted January 28 Posted January 28 What's the Hodge podge looking like heading into Feb? Just to rattle off some names: MM : 15-0, 100% bonus (2MD, 5TF, 7FALL, 1FOR) Haines : 15-0, 87% (2MD, 7TF, 4FALL) Mendez : 14-0, 86% (3MD, 6TF, 3FALL) Davino : 19-0, 68% (1MD, 11TF, 1FALL) M.Blaze : 15-0, 93% (5MD, 5TF, 4FALL) SVN : 15-0, 87% (2MD, 7TF, 4FALL) PJD : 14-0, 79% (1MD, 2TF, 7FALL, 1INJ) Bastida : 16-0, 69% (1MD, 9TF, 0FALL) Barr : 12-0, 100% (2MD, 6TF, 4FALL) Byrd : 13-0, 23% (0MD, 2TF, 1FALL) Elam : 11-0, 64% (6MD, 1TF, 0FALL) Trumble : 10-0, 90% (2MD, 2TF, 4FALL, 1FOR) Who's missing? Obviously there's a lot of wrestling left to sort this out, but it's interesting to see TFR Marcus Blaze and PJ Duke in the mix. And if the Hodge race comes down to guys with 1 loss, Jax Joy (17-1, 72% - 5MD, 6TF, 2FALL) may be on the list. Has a TFR (or even a RSFR) ever won the Hodge?
CHROMEBIRD Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 IIRC Cael, Taylor, and Metcalf all won the Hodge as sophomores. Carl didn't win it as a freshman because Stephen Neal wrecked his weight class, Taylor didn't because he got wrecked by Bubba, and Metcalf didn't because he got wrecked by the transfer rules.
neweruser69 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 I think the top 3 on that list are indeed the top 3. Personally, I'd go Mendez for now. Especially if he keeps that pace the entire year.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 28 Posted January 28 If Mendez goes undefeated and wins his third straight title he’s getting it. Period.
Pinnacle Posted January 28 Posted January 28 If Mesenbrink wins out by bonus he and his 100 percent bonus rate win the Hodge. Barr can equal him, nobody else can.
WrestlingRash Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Mendez has the better wins so far. He's the frontrunner.
Antitroll2828 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 55 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: If Mendez goes undefeated and wins his third straight title he’s getting it. Period. 3rd straight title means nothing. A 5th title didn’t mean anything last year.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 29 Posted January 29 32 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: 3rd straight title means nothing. A 5th title didn’t mean anything last year. That's only because it was Starocci who didn't have a high bonus rate. Mendez has a high bonus rate.
happyvalet Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Mesenbrink's schedule has been very weak in comparison to Jesse's. He won't be able to close that gap, so unless Jesse takes his foot off the gas or takes a loss, he will be my choice.
mr.nonothingatall Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Just now, Coastal said: Starocci's bonus rate last year was higher than Mendez' rate so far this year at the same point but you knew that as I just think you like to play mentally retarded for some reason. Full of un-bias blasphemy.
Truzzcat Posted January 29 Posted January 29 If Marcus is above 80% bonus rate and wins 133 he would be my pick however I think its probably Mitchell's to lose on paper. I would guess Jesse finishes with a bonus rate around 80% and his quality wins will not be comparable to 2 wins over Caliendo and potentially 2 wins over Joey. I am the personal property of VakAttack
RawDog Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Its between messenbrink and Mendez. Everyone else is irrelevant
mr.nonothingatall Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Not completely, 133pounders are still in it at this point. It's the deepest class, devino and blaze have a shot. It's a snowballs chance but they have a more competitive weight than messenbrink or mendez imo Full of un-bias blasphemy.
Antitroll2828 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 8 minutes ago, RawDog said: Its between messenbrink and Mendez. Everyone else is irrelevant Barr has a 100 percent bonus rate still he’s in the mix
CHROMEBIRD Posted January 29 Author Posted January 29 Byrd only has a 23% bonus rate right now, but if he finishes the season undefeated, including wins over Blaze and Davino? Does the committee transitive property their high bonus wins to Byrd? Then he'll be pretty solid in record, quality of competition, dominance (bonus %), sportsmanship, and the secret Hodge criteria: height of one's significant other. I think it would be incredible for a true freshman to win the trophy though, so I'm pulling for PJ Duke and Marcus Blaze even though they are long shots. It would be funny if VT pulls Seidel's shirt (12-0, 100% bonus) and he goes on a tear and enters the Hodge convo.
JWC Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Sinclair has 73.91% this year. Keckeisen had a 90% bonus in 24, Brooks was slightly higher in 10 less matches. Hendrickson last year had an 81% and MM had an 89%. Nonetheless, performance at NCAA’s sways the votes more than the season record in my opinion.
neweruser69 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 25 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Byrd only has a 23% bonus rate right now, but if he finishes the season undefeated, including wins over Blaze and Davino? Does the committee transitive property their high bonus wins to Byrd? Then he'll be pretty solid in record, quality of competition, dominance (bonus %), sportsmanship, and the secret Hodge criteria: height of one's significant other. I think it would be incredible for a true freshman to win the trophy though, so I'm pulling for PJ Duke and Marcus Blaze even though they are long shots. It would be funny if VT pulls Seidel's shirt (12-0, 100% bonus) and he goes on a tear and enters the Hodge convo. They did pull his shirt btw, I believe over the weekend. So 133 is the most fun weight in a long time.
ionel Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, RawDog said: Its between messenbrink and Mendez. Everyone else is irrelevant Messenbrink is irrelevant. .
headshuck Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Messenbrink is irrelevant.There should be a league with Messenbrink and Stevenson as headliners.
happyvalet Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) For dominance metrics, Bonus % pales in comparison to Dominance Rating, which is equal to your average team points per match. Bonus % treats a pinfall and a major as equivalent, which is obviously flawed. Edited January 29 by happyvalet
ionel Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, headshuck said: There should be a league with Messenbrink and Stevenson as headliners. They are in a league of their own. .
MPhillips Posted January 29 Posted January 29 7 hours ago, ionel said: They are in a league of their own. Don't forget Devino... .
Gene Mills Fan Posted January 29 Posted January 29 11 hours ago, mr.nonothingatall said: Not completely, 133pounders are still in it at this point. It's the deepest class, devino and blaze have a shot. It's a snowballs chance but they have a more competitive weight than messenbrink or mendez imo Do you use a mic and speak post or do you actually type the letters?
MPhillips Posted January 29 Posted January 29 14 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said: Do you use a mic and speak post or do you actually type the letters? He's just bad speller according to him... .
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 29 Posted January 29 If Mendez and Mesenbrink both go undefeated it will go to Mendez due to 3 NCAA titles in a row, unless Mesenbrink bonuses in every NCAA match and Mendez doesn't.
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