Will the Penn State 25-26 and 26-27 teams be the BEST ever?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Some crazy lineups possible:

125: Lilledahl

133: Blaze/Davis/Ono/Nagao

141: Blaze/Davis/Ono/Nagao

149: Van Ness

157: Kasak/Duke

165: Mesenbrink

174: Haines

184: Welsh/Henkel

197: Barr /Miarsola 1

HWT: Mirasola 2

[ionel]

31/32 will be better 

[Gene Mills Fan]

how many teams can be the BEST ever. 

[Rassling2]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Some crazy lineups possible:

125: Lilledahl

133: Blaze/Davis/Ono/Nagao

141: Blaze/Davis/Ono/Nagao

149: Van Ness

157: Kasak/Duke

165: Mesenbrink

174: Haines

184: Welsh/Henkel

197: Barr /Miarsola 1

HWT: Mirasola 2

JC, how do you feel 133 & 141 shakes out? Who do you predict ultimately starts at these two PSU weight classes?

[RandolphTJones]

Okie St catching up quickly with the classes they have coming in. I wouldn't just give the Natty to Penn St in the next couple seasons. Transfer portal huge implications also every season. 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

42 minutes ago, Rassling2 said:

JC, how do you feel 133 & 141 shakes out? Who do you predict ultimately starts at these two PSU weight classes?

I like Blaze 133 and Ono 141 (or the reverse depending on who is bigger)

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Prediction for next year:

125: Lilledahl - Champ

133: Blaze - Finalist

141: Ono - 3rd

149: Van Ness - Champ

157: Duke - Finalist

165: Mesenbrink - Champ

174: Haines - Champ

184: Welsh - Finalist

197: Barr - Champ

HWT: Mirasola - 3rd

[Hank]

no

[Rassling2]

14 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Prediction for next year:

125: Lilledahl - Champ

133: Blaze - Finalist

141: Ono - 3rd

149: Van Ness - Champ

157: Duke - Finalist

165: Mesenbrink - Champ

174: Haines - Champ

184: Welsh - Finalist

197: Barr - Champ

HWT: Mirasola - 3rd

I agree with your weight assessments but disagree on the results. Blaze, Ono and Duke will all be champs. That’s my prediction. 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

7 minutes ago, Rassling2 said:

I agree with your weight assessments but disagree on the results. Blaze, Ono and Duke will all be champs. That’s my prediction. 

8 champs seems to be a bit too optimistic no?

[Winners Circle]

I don't think we see Ono this year. Think he RS's.

125: LL - Champ

133: MB - Champ

141: Nagao/Davis - R12

149: SVN - Champ

157: Duke - Champ

165: MM - Champ

174: LH - Champ

184: Rocco - 4th

197: Barr - Champ

285: Mirasola - 4th

[Gus]

36 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

I don't think we see Ono this year. Think he RS's.

125: LL - Champ

133: MB - Champ

141: Nagao/Davis - R12

149: SVN - Champ

157: Duke - Champ

165: MM - Champ

174: LH - Champ

184: Rocco - 4th

197: Barr - Champ

285: Mirasola - 4th

None of those results independently would surprise me, but 7 champs seems a bit aggressive. 

[Rassling2]

55 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

8 champs seems to be a bit too optimistic no?

Forget the quantity, the 3 studs cited has to do with quality. Blaze, Ono and Duke will all be champs. Book it.
 

Blaze, Ono and Duke will all be champs.

[Winners Circle]

1 hour ago, Gus said:

None of those results independently would surprise me, but 7 champs seems a bit aggressive. 

I agree 100%, but which of those 7 do you predict to lose? MM and LH are locks. Barr is very close to a lock imo. I truly believe Blaze and Duke are the best guys in their weights (which is why the coaching staff is opting to not RS either of them because they have great options there in Nagao/Davis and Kasak). On the same note I think LL and SVN are the best guys in their weights too. So do I think they'll realistically have 7 champs, probably not because we all know how that tournament goes. But I don't feel comfortable to pick any of those 7 to lose. 

[Gus]

33 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

I agree 100%, but which of those 7 do you predict to lose? MM and LH are locks. Barr is very close to a lock imo. I truly believe Blaze and Duke are the best guys in their weights (which is why the coaching staff is opting to not RS either of them because they have great options there in Nagao/Davis and Kasak). On the same note I think LL and SVN are the best guys in their weights too. So do I think they'll realistically have 7 champs, probably not because we all know how that tournament goes. But I don't feel comfortable to pick any of those 7 to lose. 

I have no real gripes with any of your assessment. I fully expect Mesenbrink & Levi Haines to win. I think LL and Barr are clear favorites. 125 is deep (Robinson, Sprately, Volk, Ventresca, Seymour, etc) but LL looked so good this summer. 197 lacks depth and one of Barr's toughest competitors will be his teammate, Mirasola. Unless someone talks a big leap forward, it is hard to see anyone beating Barr. Right now I would favor Henson over SVN but it's a coin flip. 157 is gonna be a dog fight for PJ to make the starting lineup and then he will battle the likes of Antrell Taylor, Meyer Shapiro, Daniel Cardenas, etc. Would I be surprised to see PJ win that weight class? Nope. He's that good but folkstyle is a different ballgame than freestyle and there is a learning curve to mat wrestling, especially considering that he will be focused on freestyle leading up to the world championships. Same thing for Blaze at 133 as it is for PJ at 157, expect that 133 is even deeper → Crookham, Byrd, Ayala, Davino, Fuggitt, Figueroa, Frost, Ragusin, Shawver, etc..