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Posted
6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Who do we think mark is in the article ?

There is no way to know, assuming that Mark is a pseudonym. I mean a detailed investigation of who follows who on Instagram and a combing over of past PSU rosters could maybe narrow it down, but it is not worth the time. 

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What a (not surprising) sick story. But, here's the problem...

1) How do you prove that the coaches were made aware or knew about it, aside from multiple people saying they did? They couldn't get Jim Jordan because there was no proof.

2) Did the girls file police reports or go to the doctor after the alleged rape? I don't think you can charge somebody or prove rape unless there's documentation. Perhaps if a large number of women claim it...?

3) If the campus police that they refer to are true law enforcement (somebody said they have their own police department), it's nonsense that they couldn't get a hold of him. My guess is that he either referred them to his lawyer or pled the 5th. In that case, it should still go to a prosecutor (I believe) to determine if they want to bring charges. Over petty theft? Nah.

4) Look at how tOSU covered up that stuff in the documentary. Does anyone really think that they would fire Cael...the guy who IS penn state wrestling? If anything, they'll find a scapegoat. But again, I don't know how you prove that he knew anything unless it was in writing (Did Bartlett or these others email him?...Life lesson: Always put it in writing).

 

The most disturbing part, in my opinion, is the underage girls. 17 is considered a minor in PA, plus the rape allegations. Hopefully there's some proof here and that this doesn't get covered up (or the girls paid off) because "we are...penn state".

 

If true, I hope he gets his.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Who do we think mark is in the article ?

Journalist: Don't worry, Mr. Hall. We're going to use a pseudonym so no one will know it's you. We'll probably pick a generic, super common name. 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Who do we think mark is in the article ?

My guess is it’s a recent transfer out of PSU 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

There is no way to know, assuming that Mark is a pseudonym. I mean a detailed investigation of who follows who on Instagram and a combing over of past PSU rosters could maybe narrow it down, but it is not worth the time. 

I mean, who could give Carter a tough go (on a good day), but also someone he felt comfortable enough to routinely sexually assault or knee in the face? Truax? Dean? Haines? Barr? Ryder? 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

Beau probably had a watch nicer than an Apple Watch. His NIL could easily afford him a watch that is 800 bucks (not even close to that nice for a watch) and the Shoes he wears would all be 150+ and we known Beau has to have multiple pairs to be able to mismatch. 

Also if you care enough to have a nice watch that's at least a few grand for special occasions you almost certainly have a Movado/Bulova or something around 500+ that you wear daily.

Posted
18 minutes ago, goheels1812 said:

I wonder if this is the warmup for AJ Ferrari to make his thoughts known on the situation 😂

Maybe these two can beat the hell out of each other so we all win?

Posted
54 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Biggest psu apologist ever?  U serious.  That theft is a felony.  
 

 

Yes — at Penn State and under federal law, a D‑1 coach who learns that one of their athletes is committing a crime (such as theft over $1,000) would be required to report it to university authorities.


🏛️ 1. Clery Act & Campus Security Authority (CSA)

  • Under the Clery Act, coaches are designated as Campus Security Authorities. If they receive credible information about a crime (like theft), they're required to report it in good faith—even if it’s a rumor—to Penn State’s University Police or via the CSA Incident Report Form

 

  • It’s not part of their job to investigate; it’s their responsibility to report.


🧾 2. Institution Policies & Student Code of Conduct

  • Penn State’s Student Code of Conduct explicitly lists theft and violation of law as reportable misconductpolice.psu.edu+1spotlightpa.org+1.

  • Their internal Athletics Code of Conduct and Title IX policy require coaches to report any suspected misconduct to school administration or the Title IX Coordinator .


✅ 3. Institutional Reporting Expectations

  • After the Sandusky scandal, Penn State significantly reformed its reporting systemselibrary.law.psu.edu+15spotlightpa.org+15en.wikipedia.org+15.

  • Coaches now undergo annual compliance training and are expected to report all suspected criminal or Title IX-related misconduct to appropriate officials, such as the Title IX Coordinator, Athletics Director, or University Police.

Seems to me that it WAS reported. That's how they got the security camera footage, and as a result, why Kasak was interviewed by police, remember?

 

Posted
37 minutes ago, Ragu said:

 

the author of the article, this thread sheds a little more light 

There's always someone in these threads asking grok to explain something as Jar-Jar, huh...

Posted
33 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

this seems like bartlett and his wife are the ones who found the "victims" here and it just doesn't have a strong ring of truth 

Holy cow.  I get fanboys trying to spin everything in their teams favor, but Beau , a multi time AA, put his name out there and said I reported these things to coach and nothing happened.   Not an anonymous source or a room guy with an axe to grind. 

It doesn't mean there was a crime provable beyond all reasonable doubt; however, a serious contributor to PSU success has put his name and quotes behind it.   That, in and of itself, tells me this is not a "nothing burger" 

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Wow. Not good. The thing that surprises me the most is that they brought him back for a 5th year when they didn’t have to. The coaches had to know there was stuff going on (not sure to what extent), and they could’ve made the rest of the team a lot happier if they just let Carter move on after last year. I’m hoping they didn’t know the full extent of it or this is going to be really bad. After the football situation, I assume PSU would have to clean house IF there was some sort of cover up. I’m not convinced that’s the case though, so we will have to wait and see. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Dogbone said:

Holy cow.  I get fanboys trying to spin everything in their teams favor, but Beau , a multi time AA, put his name out there and said I reported these things to coach and nothing happened.   Not an anonymous source or a room guy with an axe to grind. 

It doesn't mean there was a crime provable beyond all reasonable doubt; however, a serious contributor to PSU success has put his name and quotes behind it.   That, in and of itself, tells me this is not a "nothing burger" 

"Nothing happened" doesn't mean that the coaches did nothing. 

Now, maybe Cael did nothing. That is very possible.

But, based on the fact that security footage was reviewed, and two people of interest were subsequently identified, I'm guessing that means Cael or another coach contacted the PD, as required.

Posted
1 minute ago, BloodRound said:

I wonder where Carter is stowed away right now amidst all this.

Well if he is as religious as he claims he is then my bet would be a church, praying to his god for a time machine.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Le duke said:

"Nothing happened" doesn't mean that the coaches did nothing. 

Now, maybe Cael did nothing. That is very possible.

But, based on the fact that security footage was reviewed, and two people of interest were subsequently identified, I'm guessing that means Cael or another coach contacted the PD, as required.

About the theft yes.  Not clear exactly what he was aware of and what was reported about the pictures or allegations from practices.  I would bet he was not aware at all about the allegations from the women.

Posted
4 minutes ago, BloodRound said:

I wonder where Carter is stowed away right now amidst all this.

Starocci is currently interviewing at University of Nebraska

i am an idiot on the internet

Posted
8 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Didn't Paterno report at least some of what was going on?

That is my understanding.

In this scenario, it sounds like Cael was made aware that someone stole from Beau Bartlett. It sounds like he reported it to the University PD, who reviewed footage and identified two guys as persons of interest. 

1) If that is as far as Cael/coaching staff's knowledge of the problem(s) goes, they are fine. 

2) If any member coaching staff knew that Carter was harming anyone, they should be fired. End of story.

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