Carter Starocci faces allegations of sexual assault and theft

[headshuck]

Coming soon: Surviving 2. Penn State

[cl415]

1 minute ago, MPhillips said:

I recall Willie and Basch saying the Bartlett situation was a nothing burger...

Willie… maybe he really had no idea what was happening.

Basch on the other hand. Fuk that guy. He was supposedly tight with Beau and he acted like nothing bad was happening just to protect Cael and the program. He is a PR guy disguised as a media member. Disgusting behavior from him. 

[RandolphTJones]

Props to Bartlett and his wife for speaking openly and not behind an anonymous name. If more wrestlers/former teammates come out with similar allegations this could get ugly. 

[RandolphTJones]

2 minutes ago, headshuck said:

Coming soon: Surviving 2. Penn State

Surviving 2. Penn St Part II. 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Could this retroactively void Starocci's (and Penn State's) titles?

[wrestlingfan22]

7 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

I recall Willie and Basch saying the Bartlett situation was a nothing burger...

Trying to find the pod with that clip before they delete it...

[Backdrft76]

23 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

The mods at the BWI board have already locked the thread on this article, less than 4 hours after posting.

It was to issue a preemptive warning to the anticipated trolls. It's unlocked now.

Edited 4 hours ago by Backdrft76

[JimmyCinnabon]

3 minutes ago, cl415 said:

Willie… maybe he really had no idea what was happening.

Basch on the other hand. Fuk that guy. He was supposedly tight with Beau and he acted like nothing bad was happening just to protect Cael and the program. He is a PR guy disguised as a media member. Disgusting behavior from him. 

He also hosts a religious podcast disguised as a wrestling podcast. 

[AgaveMaria]

Cael sweeping it aside or ignoring a rotten reality fits in with his Mormon upbringing.

https://www.latterdaysurvivors.org/post/victim-blaming-when-mormon-leaders-inflict-harm-and-perpetuate-abuse

His church has paid out tens of millions ot victims of sexual abuse - by leaders and members. Their leadership is taught that when a victim of sexual abuse comes in for counseling or to confess - call a help line - which is manned by Kirton, McConkie law firm. Not by actual counselors or health professionals.

Women are property, no matter the talks of how they are honored, loved and such. Mormon Apostle Heber Kimball said “I think no more of taking another wife than I do of buying a cow”. Though not actively practicing polygamy, it is still a core doctrine & "The order of Heaven" - with God & Jesus both being polygamists.

On the other hand, maybe Cael & Co aren't sure what to do & the University offers no guidance - in spite of the legacy of Paterno & Sandusky? 

Taking some stuff & "hiding it"? Maybe a prank? "They will work it out between them" attitude here?

Easy to see Cael with his beliefs thinking the women are exaggerating what happened. Just seeing them with sleeveless dresses can be a trigger in this belief system. Mormon Apostle Dallin Oaks spoke of it with this.

His group even goes so far as to airbrush sleeves on photos of young girls who are wearing sleeveless shirts or dresses. Young girls grade school age.

Cael & Co might be a clueless as Joe Paterno was.

As for Bartlett & his wife - they have done GOOD bringing this out, especially as they were apparently all but ignored trying to go through normal channels.

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by AgaveMaria

[ionel]

I keep waiting for Wkn to add a chart to the discussion ... too soon? 

[MPhillips]

5 minutes ago, cl415 said:

Willie… maybe he really had no idea what was happening.

I don't believe he said that though...

5 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said:

Cael & Co might be a clueless as Joe Paterno was.

[headshuck]

Where’s TBar?

[Wrasslin]

We can conclude that this 17-year-old freshman accuser wasn't held back a year for athletic reasons

[JimmyCinnabon]

Just now, Wrasslin said:

We can conclude that this 17-year-old freshman accuser wasn't held back a year for athletic reasons

Oh god are we going too meta? 

[Caveira]

55 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

And it was just 3 days ago that Starocci was named PSU’s male athlete of the year…

https://www.psu.edu/news/intercollegiate-athletics/story/mruzik-starocci-named-penn-state-athletes-year

Our the window that Cael only knew about it this year comment ?   Which I believe you made in the other thread.  

[Truzzcat]

Oh, the irony if the most decorated guy in the program's history was to be the one to send it crashing down.

Edited 4 hours ago by Truzzcat

[VakAttack]

Ironic that after years of being criticized for not having enough offense, Bartlett may have just taken down Carter Starocci and Cael Sanderson simultaneously.

[yubfrontin]

59 minutes ago, Wrasslin said:

That's a pretty good article- thanks for sharing! What kid keeps over $1000 worth of stuff in their school athletic locker?

Pretty easy. Apple Watch could be 300-400. They are students with laptops or iPads. Shoes can be expensive. Necklace/earrings could be a couple hundred apiece.

[wrestlingfan22]

3 minutes ago, yubfrontin said:

Pretty easy. Apple Watch could be 300-400. They are students with laptops or iPads. Shoes can be expensive. Necklace/earrings could be a couple hundred apiece.

Beau probably had a watch nicer than an Apple Watch. His NIL could easily afford him a watch that is 800 bucks (not even close to that nice for a watch) and the Shoes he wears would all be 150+ and we known Beau has to have multiple pairs to be able to mismatch. 

[ionel]

1 minute ago, yubfrontin said:

Pretty easy. Apple Watch could be 300-400. They are students with laptops or iPads. Shoes can be expensive. Necklace/earrings could be a couple hundred apiece.

Good grief a new G Phenix 8 solar is $1k/$1.1k  he mighta had one old shoe there also.  

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, yubfrontin said:

Pretty easy. Apple Watch could be 300-400. They are students with laptops or iPads. Shoes can be expensive. Necklace/earrings could be a couple hundred apiece.

Don’t forget kids have more NIL cash today compared to x years ago… I wouldn’t understate their ability to buy nonsense they don’t need because they are well kids.  

[Truzzcat]

People being caught up on the figure of money in items which may have been stolen out of all of this is really throwing me off.

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

Beau probably had a watch nicer than an Apple Watch. His NIL could easily afford him a watch that is 800 bucks (not even close to that nice for a watch) and the Shoes he wears would all be 150+ and we known Beau has to have multiple pairs to be able to mismatch. 

In one of his floppy flippy vids where he well flips a lot.  There is a clip of his foot locker.  There are at least 15 pairs of wrestling shoes in there.  

[Lleynor]

If Carl truly knew everything to its fullest, I don’t believe this university can afford the risk of not cutting ties. The college football shadow still looms over them. 

[cl415]

He probably had like 4 Bo Bassett rudis shirts in there, that’s basically $1,000