Bassett vs Stanich in folkstyle?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

How do we see this playing out? Stanich 10-0 Bo was impressive even though it was freestyle. 

[lisa morales]

Bassett never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

[Mr. PeanutButter]

This match will never happen

Bassett career timeline:

2025-26 senior HS

2026-27 redshirt

2027-28 OLY redshirt

2028-29 RSfrosh

2029-30 RSsoph

2030-31 medical redshirt

2031-32 OLY redshirt

2032-33 RSjunior 

2033-34 global nuclear war - eligibility frozen for all active athletes

2034-35 RSSenior1 (gets one additional year due to nuclear war the previous year)

2035-36 OLY redshirt

2036-37 RSsenior2 

Ends college at the ripe old age of 49, at 197lbs, and 6.9 million dollars richer. He will never hit Stanich, Blaze, Forrest or any of his other cohorts. 

[Coastal]

Bassett is going to develop much more In college.  If there's one thing the Brands teach, it's dynamic offense. 

Half of the U20 team is Penn State and Iowa combined so it's definitely the place for Bassett to develop his world aspirations.

[Le duke]

Bassett is going to develop much more In college.  If there's one thing the Brands teach, it's dynamic offense. 
Half of the U20 team is Penn State and Iowa combined so it's definitely the place for Bassett to develop his world aspirations.

I see what you did here.


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[Hammerlock3]

This is the first time in a awhile I've seen a Cinnabon topic and not registered it as his without checking. Guess that means its just stupid enough....

[D3 for LU]

17 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

This is the first time in a awhile I've seen a Cinnabon topic and not registered it as his without checking. Guess that means its just stupid enough....

... one has to keep standards steady, ya know?

D3

Edited June 1 by D3 for LU

[Mr. PeanutButter]

3 hours ago, Coastal said:

Bassett is going to develop much more In college.  If there's one thing the Brands teach, it's dynamic offense. 

Half of the U20 team is Penn State and Iowa combined so it's definitely the place for Bassett to develop his world aspirations.

I know, right? Think of all the things he could learn at Penn State:

How to get extra par terre work, recreationally, with cops. Courtesy of Braeden Davis

The 10 best places nationally, and internationally, to bang whoores with Kyle Snyder.

BONUS LESSON: The Art of being a Hypocrite.

BONUS BONUS LESSON: The biblically valid reason why you should cheat on your wife and spend your very limited wrestling earning potential on hookers instead of on your family.

One-on-one mentorship sessions with Aaron Brooks on how to properly deliver a bigoted speech on national television. 

Bonus seminar with Brooks: compare yourself to Jesus and accuse your own teammate of attempting to sabotage your career

Electives with Brooks: how to technically "not" take PEDs

10 ways to be a blow bag with Carter Starocci

Dildo Photoshop with Carter Starocci

Grave pissing, quitting on your team, and threatening to assault a D1 coach with Carter Starocci

And finally, the masterclass with Thomas Gilman on how to sabotage your career and never take any accountability for your actions

Silky smooth ankle picks - Cael Sanderson

[AgaveMaria]

Mr. Peanutbutter wrote: 

2033-34 global nuclear war - eligibility frozen for all active athletes

2034-35 RSSenior1 (gets one additional year due to nuclear war the previous year)

-----------------------------------

Woefully ignorant. 

No one will be wrestling at any colleges after a Global Nuclear war.

Read NUCLEAR WAR: A Scenario, by Annie Jacobson. In depth research & presented in a way that is easy to understand that only a madman or totally insane idiot would ever resort to these weapons. After a Global conflict we wouldn't be around.

[Mr. PeanutButter]

3 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said:

Mr. Peanutbutter wrote: 

2033-34 global nuclear war - eligibility frozen for all active athletes

2034-35 RSSenior1 (gets one additional year due to nuclear war the previous year)

-----------------------------------

Woefully ignorant. 

No one will be wrestling at any colleges after a Global Nuclear war.

Read NUCLEAR WAR: A Scenario, by Annie Jacobson. In depth research & presented in a way that is easy to understand that only a madman or totally insane idiot would ever resort to these weapons. After a Global conflict we wouldn't be around.

The world may end up a wasteland but the NCAA WILL survive and Bassett will continue wrestling 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

I know, right? Think of all the things he could learn at Penn State:

How to get extra par terre work, recreationally, with cops. Courtesy of Braeden Davis

The 10 best places nationally, and internationally, to bang whoores with Kyle Snyder.

BONUS LESSON: The Art of being a Hypocrite.

BONUS BONUS LESSON: The biblically valid reason why you should cheat on your wife and spend your very limited wrestling earning potential on hookers instead of on your family.

One-on-one mentorship sessions with Aaron Brooks on how to properly deliver a bigoted speech on national television. 

Bonus seminar with Brooks: compare yourself to Jesus and accuse your own teammate of attempting to sabotage your career

Electives with Brooks: how to technically "not" take PEDs

10 ways to be a blow bag with Carter Starocci

Dildo Photoshop with Carter Starocci

Grave pissing, quitting on your team, and threatening to assault a D1 coach with Carter Starocci

And finally, the masterclass with Thomas Gilman on how to sabotage your career and never take any accountability for your actions

Silky smooth ankle picks - Cael Sanderson

Let's not forget: Injury prevention with guest lecturers Anthony Cassar, Kyle Conel, Aaron Nagao, Jason Nolf, David Taylor, Alex Facundo, Nick Suriano, Greg Kerkvliet, RBY, and Aaron Brooks.  Reading materials will include a couple pages from Caels log about all the drills they do in practice that keep guys from getting hurt and getting significant injuries.

[HokieDave87]

9 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

This match will never happen

Bassett career timeline:

2025-26 senior HS

2026-27 redshirt

2027-28 OLY redshirt

2028-29 RSfrosh

2029-30 RSsoph

2030-31 medical redshirt

2031-32 OLY redshirt

2032-33 RSjunior 

2033-34 global nuclear war - eligibility frozen for all active athletes

2034-35 RSSenior1 (gets one additional year due to nuclear war the previous year)

2035-36 OLY redshirt

2036-37 RSsenior2 

Ends college at the ripe old age of 49, at 197lbs, and 6.9 million dollars richer. He will never hit Stanich, Blaze, Forrest or any of his other cohorts. 

Bassett vs. Beacon Burroughs will be the most anticipated NCAA match since Dake-Taylor

[Hammerlock3]

6 hours ago, D3 for LU said:

... one has to keep standards steady, ya know?

D3

as christopher hitchens said while satirizing the catholic church for excommunicating Joseph Goebells for marrying a protestant...."we have our standards"

[scourge165]

10 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Let's not forget: Injury prevention with guest lecturers Anthony Cassar, Kyle Conel, Aaron Nagao, Jason Nolf, David Taylor, Alex Facundo, Nick Suriano, Greg Kerkvliet, RBY, and Aaron Brooks.  Reading materials will include a couple pages from Caels log about all the drills they do in practice that keep guys from getting hurt and getting significant injuries.

1-Beat Gable Stevenson and won a NC
2-Was injured before he got to PSU
3-The guy who got beat out by Davis last year? 
4- 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st Only two losses aside from an injury were to IMar who he also gave one of his 3 career losses(the other two being different PSU Wrestlers). 
5-The 2X Hodge Winner, 4X Finalist, Olympic and 3X World Champ(plus a Silver and a Bronze). 
6-Facundo...burried on their depth chart behind the guy who came in and has lost ONE-ONE point match in his career thus far.
7-Suriano-
8-Kerkvliet The 5X AA and National Champ?
9-RBY 5X AA, 3X Finalist, 2X Champ
10-4X National Champ and Olympic Bronze Medalist

 

I'm not sure Iowa fans do the best job of dunking on Penn State as they think they do! 

See, the claim was that Iowa runs their guys into the ground and THAT'S why they don't accomplish as much. You just made a list of 9 guys, one of whom took a medical RS before he even got to Penn State, but 13 total National Titles(not counting Suriano's two at two different schools)...a couple Olympic Medals and several World Medals.

Yeah, no, you're right! LOL...what a knock AGAINST Penn State!

 

 

They do get the "Winning National Titles," session, but sadly...miss the gambling portion. That's reserved for another program...

Edited June 2 by scourge165

[1032004]

16 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

The world may end up a wasteland but the NCAA WILL survive and Bassett will continue wrestling 

I’m pretty sure that wrestling room in their basement doubles as a bomb shelter 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

4 hours ago, scourge165 said:

1-Beat Gable Stevenson and won a NC...Cassar didn't finish his senior year and repeat because... injury.
2-Was injured before he got to PSU... Conel injured at PSU
3-The guy who got beat out by Davis last year? ... there was never an official wrestle off that PSU acknowledged, just that Nagao was injured
4- 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st Only two losses aside from an injury were to IMar who he also gave one of his 3 career losses(the other two being different PSU Wrestlers). ,,, significant injury as a senior, wr5estled a fantastic tourney and won
5-The 2X Hodge Winner, 4X Finalist, Olympic and 3X World Champ(plus a Silver and a Bronze).... destroyed his knee at BTS 
6-Facundo...burried on their depth chart behind the guy who came in and has lost ONE-ONE point match in his career thus far.... on crutches this year
7-Suriano-still drilling
8-Kerkvliet The 5X AA and National Champ?... multiple forfeits on last day of NCAA tournaments
9-RBY 5X AA, 3X Finalist, 2X Champ... I was told he didn't beat Vito bc of injury
10-4X National Champ and Olympic Bronze Medalist... currently not competing bc surgery

 

 

The point is how PSU guys don't get injured, but they actually do.  I will give them a ton of credit for really wrestling well when injured, but they do get hurt... quite a bit. And "pre-existing injuries" have never been an acceptable excuse for Lee.

 

[scourge165]

21 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

The point is how PSU guys don't get injured, but they actually do.  I will give them a ton of credit for really wrestling well when injured, but they do get hurt... quite a bit. 

 

Ahh... the old "this is the argument in my head, so this is the point I'll keep arguing!"

 

No, the argument is NOT that Penn State Wrestlers don't get hurt, it's that Iowa Wrestlers haven't changed their approach to training and they get MORE beat up and perform worse as a result. Not that after 20 years of Wrestling(I mean...seriously, using David Taylor as an example? What, his shoulder injury?) that Penn State guys just...don't get hurt!

Not to mention, your argument is even worse, your arguing about guys who were hurt BEFORE they went to Penn State! 

 

23 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

And "pre-existing injuries" have never been an acceptable excuse for Lee.

To be clear, you're not comparing a guy who spent 6 years at Iowa, with a guy who took a medical Redshirt, then coming off that MSRS went to Penn State?

 

And his "pre-existing injury" was never an "excuse?" I thought he said "excuses are for wusses?

But again, fine, we'll use "excuse." I said his loss to Ramos was the result of his knee injury not allowing him to be in good enough shape to Wrestle a strong 7 minutes. 

So the claim that they've "NEVER been an acceptable excuse," is therefore faulty. That's at least one example. 

It is kinda weird how you took two VASTLY different styles of training, completely changed the narrative and then have been just repeatedly harping on this topic every chance you get for the last two YEARS. 

[nhs67]

48 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

The point is how PSU guys don't get injured, but they actually do.  I will give them a ton of credit for really wrestling well when injured, but they do get hurt... quite a bit. And "pre-existing injuries" have never been an acceptable excuse for Lee.

 

Conel bit doesn't matter.  Regardless of were he injured or not injured prior or during, 2020 was cancelled and he wouldn't have been able to wrestle anyways.

Edit:  His replacement starter was the oft-injured Shakur Rasheed, though.

Edited June 2 by nhs67

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 minute ago, scourge165 said:

(I mean...seriously, using David Taylor as an example? What, his shoulder injury?) 

 

And his "pre-existing injury" was never an "excuse?" I thought he said "excuses are for wusses?

 

Apparently you don't remember Taylor's destroyed knee at BTS?

And I didn't bring up "pre-existing injuries", I believe you did.

My point was always just that "PSU guys get hurt too," even though the fans like to pretend they don't.  

[NotThatDave]

17 hours ago, AgaveMaria said:

Mr. Peanutbutter wrote: 

2033-34 global nuclear war - eligibility frozen for all active athletes

2034-35 RSSenior1 (gets one additional year due to nuclear war the previous year)

-----------------------------------

Woefully ignorant. 

No one will be wrestling at any colleges after a Global Nuclear war.

Read NUCLEAR WAR: A Scenario, by Annie Jacobson. In depth research & presented in a way that is easy to understand that only a madman or totally insane idiot would ever resort to these weapons. After a Global conflict we wouldn't be around.

You're the worst.

[scourge165]

6 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Apparently you don't remember Taylor's destroyed knee at BTS?

And I didn't bring up "pre-existing injuries", I believe you did.

You mean by pointing out one of the Penn State guys you're talking about was ONLY at Penn State because he got hurt at Kent State? 
LOL...dude, the jealousy of the Iowa fans is getting to be next level. 

No, I don't remember Taylor's injury at BTS. I remember David Taylor Wrestling 4 Times in the NCAA Finals, winning TWO Hodge Trophy awards and having one of the most impressive careers in College Wrestling History. 

 

But again, SOMEONE a couple years ago insinuated that Iowa MIGHT want to change up the training they've been doing since 1974 as their guys are going to the NCAAs beat up and if not underperforming, NOT performing to Iowa Standards and now EVERY time something is even tangentially related to Penn State we have to hear about every injury a Penn State Wrestler suffered. 

 

15 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

My point was always just that "PSU guys get hurt too," even though the fans like to pretend they don't.  

Nope. Nobody likes to "pretend they don't." Everyone knows injuries are part of the sport. 

But lets say that's true. How many times do you think you need to spam every thread with that? 

Is it a matter of just giving up? Like, "eh, Penn State is clearly better, we're not going to beat them, we'll just troll Penn State to death online because Cael's strategy to minimize injuries and have his guys peaking FOR THE NCAAS," isn't flawless...and while we're at it, we'll bring up a knee injury for a guy 6 years out of College or a Wrestler who got hurt at another school! 

 

Is that now Iowa pride? Man, this is just sad to see....

[nhs67]

8 minutes ago, NotThatDave said:

You're the worst.

Fake news.  We know there are worse, even on these forums.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

26 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

You mean by pointing out one of the Penn State guys you're talking about was ONLY at Penn State because he got hurt at Kent State? 
LOL...dude, the jealousy of the Iowa fans is getting to be next level. 

No, I don't remember Taylor's injury at BTS. I remember David Taylor Wrestling 4 Times in the NCAA Finals, winning TWO Hodge Trophy awards and having one of the most impressive careers in College Wrestling History. 

 

But again, SOMEONE a couple years ago insinuated that Iowa MIGHT want to change up the training they've been doing since 1974 as their guys are going to the NCAAs beat up and if not underperforming, NOT performing to Iowa Standards and now EVERY time something is even tangentially related to Penn State we have to hear about every injury a Penn State Wrestler suffered. 

 

Nope. Nobody likes to "pretend they don't." Everyone knows injuries are part of the sport. 

But lets say that's true. How many times do you think you need to spam every thread with that? 

Is it a matter of just giving up? Like, "eh, Penn State is clearly better, we're not going to beat them, we'll just troll Penn State to death online because Cael's strategy to minimize injuries and have his guys peaking FOR THE NCAAS," isn't flawless...and while we're at it, we'll bring up a knee injury for a guy 6 years out of College or a Wrestler who got hurt at another school! 

 

Is that now Iowa pride? Man, this is just sad to see....

Bro... I like you.  I like the Brands as athletes and have enjoyed my interactions with them when they coached.  I liked the Iowa teams of a few years ago, and they are still one of my favorite teams.  I am an NC State fan and booster.  

PSU is an amazing dynasty, with some of my favorite wrestlers to watch in recent years.  Their fans are some of the worst.  (well... some of them are)  Absolute hypocrites.  I enjoy needling them a bit.  Can you please just let me have my fun? (You didn't need to write a book that will go unread btw)

[1032004]

1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

Ahh... the old "this is the argument in my head, so this is the point I'll keep arguing!"

 

No, the argument is NOT that Penn State Wrestlers don't get hurt, it's that Iowa Wrestlers haven't changed their approach to training and they get MORE beat up and perform worse as a result.

I’m not sure if Iowa guys actually get hurt any more than PSU guys though.   I think PSU’s secret sauce is more in their technique/scouting than the training methods.  Just look at the number of times they had guys lose during the regular season only to come back and beat them in the postseason.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

28 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I’m not sure if Iowa guys actually get hurt any more than PSU guys though.   I think PSU’s secret sauce is more in their technique/scouting than the training methods.  Just look at the number of times they had guys lose during the regular season only to come back and beat them in the postseason.

It really is impressive.  I can't remember who I heard recently talk about "PSU training methods," but it was one of their recent stars.  Maybe Lilledahl? Whomever it was was talking about how much live they do and how hard they go, which surprised the interviewer.  The wrestler then added something to the effect of :"Yeah, we go hard."