Bo Nickal got wrecked

[alex1fly]

Does Minnow making a living from posting on FB? He sure does stir the pot a lot with weird posts. 

Edited 11 hours ago by alex1fly

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

42 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

That's...just insane. 

I've cut a lot of weight(or so I thought)...and the most I've lost was...13-15 pounds in the last 3 days and maybe 10 pounds the night before. 25 pounds in 72 hours is...WILD. 

I honestly don't know how much i would cut per week my senior year in college.  I would only make weight once a week, and generally was too afraid to check the scale until maybe two days before.  I wrestled 150 (should've probably been a 158 but I wouldn't have been a starter.)  I'd make 150 Friday night.  Go in for the Saturday dual, check weight then... 170+ after 14-16 hours to eat and rehydrate.  Binge for a couple days.  I prob wouldn't check my weight again until Wednesday after practice.  Usually still low double digits over.  Break out the sauna suit and a lot of extra running.  Make weight on Friday.  BTW, I would eat something every day and just squeeze that water right out of me.  I was an all-American weight cutter, but nowhere near an all-American wrestler.  I actually got worse at wrestling, but I was a starter and I was pretty big the day of the match.

[Hammerlock3]

lets keep in mind that the other guy was visibly bigger than nickal....so he needs to toughen up or stop coping with tall tails about brutal weight cuts.

[Hammerlock3]

same topic, he's posting videos making a spectacle of all the moisture caught up in his plastics, A) thats incredibly common, I've done it and seem probably a hundred other people in the same situation, B) posting it on social media to get gasps from soccer moms is cringe.

Its cringe that I care but I've had to watch this guy relentlessly toot his own tuba for ten years and need to point out he's failing the test you need to pass if you're gonna act like that when things are going well. 

[VakAttack]

1 hour ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

You should ask this on FRL

LOL, funny enough, I did!  #ImFamousNow #NicheFamous #NotActuallyFamous

[Dogbone]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Askren did pretty well with it…

Not in the UFC...

[Mr. PeanutButter]

4 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

LOL, funny enough, I did!  #ImFamousNow #NicheFamous #NotActuallyFamous

Haha that's why I asked. Your question got picked up by the crew. They see it the way you see it. 

[1032004]

3 minutes ago, Dogbone said:

Not in the UFC...

He was past his prime by then, but he did “beat” Lawler

[Dogbone]

With regard to supporting wrestlers (former or college ),  If Nickal isn't going to support wrestlers doing different ventures, like JB doing commentary for ESPN, then I don't know why he should expect the entire wrestling community to support him in his non wrestling ventures. 

[VakAttack]

1 minute ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Haha that's why I asked. Your question got picked up by the crew. They see it the way you see it. 

I see that.  I'm glad, it seems so obviously stupid that I want to laugh...except it's Minnow leading the charge, so I know he probably really thinks it, and also is able to convince himself that it's different for the PSU guys to root for Ono over Lee.

[mspart]

22 hours ago, Rassling2 said:

Bo will be back - hopefully at a more comfortable weight. I like Henry Cejudos approach

Cedudo lost the last two matches I saw.   He looked listless and not willing to do anything aggressive.   Has he had more fights since then?   That was about a year ago. 

mspart

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 minutes ago, Dogbone said:

Not in the UFC...

Way better opponents than Nickal.  Although it was controversial, the diminished Robbie Lawler that Askren submitted was arguably more highly regarded than RDR, and if not, it was close.

Askren lost a competitive fight to Maia, one of the greatest MMA BJJ practitioners ever.

Askren brutally KOed by Masvidal, who was coached up by Mike Thomas Brown, who is in charge of Team Nickal.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

3 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

I see that.  I'm glad, it seems so obviously stupid that I want to laugh...except it's Minnow leading the charge, so I know he probably really thinks it, and also is able to convince himself that it's different for the PSU guys to root for Ono over Lee.

Its an exhibition bro!

[CHROMEBIRD]

21 hours ago, BruceyB said:

I haven't seen or heard a word from Aaron Pico since he started fighting in Bellator. On the other hand, I can't get away from seeing Bo Nickal content. I am not going to root for an arrogant prick just because he comes from the same sport I like. He's a clown and maybe he'll be more tolerable now that he can't pretend like he'd beat anyone in the world if given the chance. The UFC has coddled him and selected opponents to help him build his reputation and anticipation of his future match-ups, and he got booed in his last fight for being so boring, and then just got embarrassed in this fight. 

Mickey knew what was up

 

[CHROMEBIRD]

18 hours ago, Rassling2 said:

 

Sometimes a direct angled knee strike can be more damaging than a glancing blow. To drop like that means he got hurt bad. 

 

 

Yeah, liver shot

[Boring]

19 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Way better opponents than Nickal.  Although it was controversial, the diminished Robbie Lawler that Askren submitted was arguably more highly regarded than RDR, and if not, it was close.

Askren lost a competitive fight to Maia, one of the greatest MMA BJJ practitioners ever.

Askren brutally KOed by Masvidal, who was coached up by Mike Thomas Brown, who is in charge of Team Nickal.

I LOVED that Askren/Masvidal result  Askren running his loud, disrespectful mouth. He got shut up REAL fast once the fight was on. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Boring

[CHROMEBIRD]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

I almost asked this question earlier.   Has the 1 hour weigh rule in ncaa wrestling made modern wrestlers soft when it comes to weight cutting?

note: I’m not suggesting ncaa change the rule and go back…. Just curious as people think these weight cuts are super crazy but happened a lot back in the day. 

I thought missing weight wasn't totally uncommon in the UFC. Not saying that it happens everyday, but outside of title fights I thought if a fighter misses weight they can request a catchweight match for a lesser portion of the purse... which is kind of a BS move if you're atrophied and sucked down and on weigh-in day your opponent is like oops, sorry, I'm over but let's fight anyway? 

I'll also take the "soft" NCAA weight cutting protocol if it means avoiding some insane looking Cris Cyborg situations. That's an extreme example for sure, but a lot of people either don't know how to cut weight or will do it in a very reckless way if given the option.

[BloodRound]

2 hours ago, alex1fly said:

Does Minnow making a living from posting on FB? He sure does stir the pot a lot with weird posts.

He doesn't; but I'd love to find his reporting supervisor and see what he thinks of Patrick arguing on social media on company time.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

10 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

I thought missing weight wasn't totally uncommon in the UFC. Not saying that it happens everyday, but outside of title fights I thought if a fighter misses weight they can request a catchweight match for a lesser portion of the purse... which is kind of a BS move if you're atrophied and sucked down and on weigh-in day your opponent is like oops, sorry, I'm over but let's fight anyway? 

I'll also take the "soft" NCAA weight cutting protocol if it means avoiding some insane looking Cris Cyborg situations. That's an extreme example for sure, but a lot of people either don't know how to cut weight or will do it in a very reckless way if given the option.

I would guess that a majority of those who miss weight also lose their fights.  Not all (Khamzat) but I would guess a majority.  That is the conventional wisdom: they weren't taking it seriously and weren't prepared.

[Caveira]

35 minutes ago, BloodRound said:

He doesn't; but I'd love to find his reporting supervisor and see what he thinks of Patrick arguing on social media on company time.

He’s pretty easy to find on LinkedIn. 

[headshuck]

You prob can’t see this anyway since it’s on FB. Just another guess to how it played out.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1212415187190671?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&mibextid=0NULKw

[scourge165]

9 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Askren did pretty well with it…

I mean, he was 1-2 in UFC with Robbie Lawler...abusing him and Herb Dean with one of his worst mistakes(according to himself) by stopping the Askren Lawler match when he thought Lawler was chocked out.

He...also was pretty notoriously knocked out in like...3-4 seconds after doing EXACTLY what Masvidal said he'd do, mocked him for doing...and then...as soon as the bell rang, he did it. It did not go well. 

So Lawler,Masvidal and Maia...and I don't recall how that went, but he didn't win and the guy was 40-41 and Askren was still like 34/35. 

This is kinda...what NOT to do as a Wrestler...no?

 

Edited 2 hours ago by scourge165

[1032004]

10 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

I mean, he was 1-2 in UFC with Robbie Lawler...abusing him and Herb Dean with one of his worst mistakes(according to himself) by stopping the Askren Lawler match when he thought Lawler was chocked out.

He...also was pretty notoriously knocked out in like...3-4 seconds after doing EXACTLY what Masvidal said he'd do, mocked him for doing...and then...as soon as the bell rang, he did it. It did not go well. 

So Lawler,Masvidal and Maia...and I don't recall how that went, but he didn't win and the guy was 40-41 and Askren was still like 34/35. 

This is kinda...what NOT to do as a Wrestler...no?

 

I didn’t say in the UFC…

[scourge165]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I didn’t say in the UFC…

Well....that's like talking about how great a professional Baseball player was in AAA then. 

 

I mean...sure. But it's AAA. 

[okokzach]

11 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

I mean, he was 1-2 in UFC with Robbie Lawler...abusing him and Herb Dean with one of his worst mistakes(according to himself) by stopping the Askren Lawler match when he thought Lawler was chocked out.

He...also was pretty notoriously knocked out in like...3-4 seconds after doing EXACTLY what Masvidal said he'd do, mocked him for doing...and then...as soon as the bell rang, he did it. It did not go well. 

So Lawler,Masvidal and Maia...and I don't recall how that went, but he didn't win and the guy was 40-41 and Askren was still like 34/35. 

This is kinda...what NOT to do as a Wrestler...no?

 

As for the bad stoppage, that was on Lawler for letting his arm go limp while getting choked. You see guys all the time actively letting the ref know they're okay to continue. Everyone in that arena thought Lawler was out. And yes, Askren got caught and KO'd. Anyone can get caught.  But that's not the point. 

The point is Bo quit when he faced relatively mild adversity, while Askren battled back after getting it handed to him. Bo is more naturally gifted than Ben, but Ben was a legitimate fighter who didn't look for a way out.