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Posted (edited)

I know some of the wrestling posters don’t look at this forum but hoping to keep some of the discussion about this here.

First of all, regardless of politics you gotta agree that it’s cool that the President was there.  He actually did seem to be enjoying himself and stayed until the end.  The timing of his entrance was awkward in terms of interrupting Starocci’s interview though, not sure whose fault that was.

 

Elon also talking about it I’m sure got some more people talking about it, not sure if it actually got any more people to watch.

But posts like this from “influencers” is what annoys me about when politics get involved in wrestling, no need to turn this into a left vs right thing:

 

 

 

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  • Bob 1
Posted

There were hundreds of thousands people who know nothing about wrestling seeing news casts  of where he was going and also mentioning the historic matches.  My wife for one said to me, I hear Trump is going to the NCAA tourney. After an awkward late arrival, the president is said to have delayed leaving to watch The HWT match. He stayed for the entirety to congratulate the last wrestler. Thousands of non fans tuned in just for dumb political reasons. some just tuned in to see if he gets booed. anyone putting the channel on for non wrestling reasons got to watch a 4 year undefeated  5 time champion in an exciting match.  Maybe they stayed on to watch . Maybe we got afew more wrestling fans.  Sorry he might have brought some attention to wrestling; NOT!

  • Bob 1
Posted
43 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I believe Hendrickson mentioned his role within the Air Force was to buy equipment.  Hopefully he doesn’t get DOGE’d

Definitely won't. We're using the cuts to help poor people to increase military spending, and then some. 

  • Poopy 1
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

The President being there, staying fully engaged for three hours, and tweeting about it was an overwhelimingly positive thing for the sport.

Lol.  More joke than serious but where is the @red viking or the @Tripnsweep     How can a senile half dead pants popping dude stay engaged at a wrestling tourney for 3 hours?    Where is that old rant Viking lol.  
 

good exposure for the sport.  

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  • Bob 1
Posted
2 hours ago, Caveira said:

Lol.  More joke than serious but where is the @red viking or the @Tripnsweep     How can a senile half dead pants popping dude stay engaged at a wrestling tourney for 3 hours?    Where is that old rant Viking lol.  
 

good exposure for the sport.  

Were you watching him the entire time? If not, it's very dumb to assume that he was engaged for all 3 hours or didn't take a break for a diaper change. 

Posted
17 hours ago, red viking said:

Were you watching him the entire time? If not, it's very dumb to assume that he was engaged for all 3 hours or didn't take a break for a diaper change. 

If he was sleeping in his chair wouldn’t someone have snapped a pic and got it on the news?

 

here is one for you boss 

 

Posted

This is what I am talking about.

He needs to be seen as being associated with tough guy successful athletes or people. Anything. It doesn't matter who they are, he wants the rub of being around people he thinks other people are tough, successful, etc. To him being associated with that is the most important thing. That is how he was able to con people in the early 80's, by pretending to be far more successful than he was, associating himself with important people, being seen in public as doing big things, and pretending he was involved in that crowd. It's why he made up fake names and called news outlets and lied to get himself in the press. It's all about the image he sells. Because who would care about some guy who was born rich and never had to do any real work? 

Posted
55 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

This is what I am talking about.

He needs to be seen as being associated with tough guy successful athletes or people. Anything. It doesn't matter who they are, he wants the rub of being around people he thinks other people are tough, successful, etc. To him being associated with that is the most important thing. That is how he was able to con people in the early 80's, by pretending to be far more successful than he was, associating himself with important people, being seen in public as doing big things, and pretending he was involved in that crowd. It's why he made up fake names and called news outlets and lied to get himself in the press. It's all about the image he sells. Because who would care about some guy who was born rich and never had to do any real work? 

You get everything wrong.  Your attempts to portray a billionaire President as somehow not intelligent or successful are pathetically unsuccessful.  Everybody saw Trump’s courage on display at Butler, PA in July 2024.  Athletes play games.  He stood up after being shot in the head, put his fist in the air, and encouraged his supporters to continue the fight.  What I saw was athletes going to him. 

  • Bob 1
Posted
1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

This is what I am talking about.

He needs to be seen as being associated with tough guy successful athletes or people. Anything. It doesn't matter who they are, he wants the rub of being around people he thinks other people are tough, successful, etc. To him being associated with that is the most important thing. That is how he was able to con people in the early 80's, by pretending to be far more successful than he was, associating himself with important people, being seen in public as doing big things, and pretending he was involved in that crowd. It's why he made up fake names and called news outlets and lied to get himself in the press. It's all about the image he sells. Because who would care about some guy who was born rich and never had to do any real work? 

Could it be this ?

Presidents attending sporting events is a long-standing tradition, often used to connect with the public and celebrate American culture.

Here are several instances in the last 50 years where U.S. presidents attended sporting events:

2020s

  • Joe Biden (2023): Attended the Army-Navy football game in Foxborough, MA.

  • Donald Trump (2020): Attended the College Football National Championship (LSU vs. Clemson).

2010s

  • Donald Trump (2019): Attended Game 5 of the World Series (Washington Nationals vs. Houston Astros).

  • Donald Trump (2019): Attended the LSU vs. Alabama football game.

  • Barack Obama (2016): Attended an NBA game between the Chicago Bulls and Cleveland Cavaliers.

  • Barack Obama (2015): Attended the MLB All-Star Game.

  • Barack Obama (2011): Threw out the first pitch at the Washington Nationals’ season opener.

2000s

  • George W. Bush (2001): Threw out the first pitch at Game 3 of the World Series (Yankees vs. Diamondbacks) just weeks after 9/11.

  • George W. Bush (2005): Attended a Texas Longhorns college football game.

1990s

  • Bill Clinton (1994): Attended the Arkansas vs. Duke NCAA basketball championship game.

  • George H.W. Bush (1991): Threw out the first pitch at the MLB All-Star Game.

1980s

  • Ronald Reagan (1989): Threw out the first pitch at Wrigley Field before a Cubs game.

  • Ronald Reagan (1984): Attended the Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.

1970s

  • Gerald Ford (1976): Attended the Army-Navy football game.

  • Richard Nixon (1971): Attended Super Bowl VI (Cowboys vs. Dolphins).

 

  • Bob 1
Posted
19 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

You get everything wrong.  Your attempts to portray a billionaire President as somehow not intelligent or successful are pathetically unsuccessful.  Everybody saw Trump’s courage on display at Butler, PA in July 2024.  Athletes play games.  He stood up after being shot in the head, put his fist in the air, and encouraged his supporters to continue the fight.  What I saw was athletes going to him. 

In my opinion he is neither intelligent or particularly successful. 

Posted

I don't think this helps the sport much. Only a little. Here's why:

1) Trump is rapidly becoming a very unpopular President. 

2) Very few people respect him. Even most of the wingers that like his policies realize that he's a scumbag. 

3) Trump never wrestled or did anything remotely physical himself. He's just a chicken hawk bully that likes to talk tough and show up to violent and/or combat sports. Wrestling is just another one of these sports. There's nothing else about wrestling that really seems to be attracting him to it. 

  • Bob 1
Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, red viking said:

3) Trump never wrestled

Donald Trump participated in wrestling during his high school years at the New York Military Academy.Photographs from his time there, such as those featured in Politico's "70 Photos of Donald Trump for His 70th Birthday," show him as a member of the wrestling team.  Additionally, in a 2010 interview, Trump mentioned his involvement in multiple sports, including wrestling, stating, "I was always a good athlete and I played football, baseball, soccer, etc…

ironically maybe he was a bigger wwe star vs gable Stevenson 🙂 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-high-school-photos-2017-3

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Posted
46 minutes ago, red viking said:

3) Trump never wrestled or did anything remotely physical himself. He's just a chicken hawk bully that likes to talk tough and show up to violent and/or combat sports. Wrestling is just another one of these sports. There's nothing else about wrestling that really seems to be attracting him to it. 

1962 National Prep 160lb bracket.

 

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  • Bob 1
Posted
1 hour ago, red viking said:

 3) Trump never wrestled or did anything remotely physical himself. 

rv wrong again 

  • Bob 1

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Posted
2 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

In my opinion he is neither intelligent or particularly successful. 

He is intelligent enough to win, the lose, and learn from that loss and win again.   That is the definition of successful.

mspart

  • Bob 1
Posted
33 minutes ago, fishbane said:

1962 National Prep 160lb bracket.

 

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Is this real?  I’d seen the team photo of him with him in it, but never saw this 

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