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[Truzzcat]

6 hours ago, nhs67 said:

It appears both Brock and Beau weighed in between 165-174lbs for their certification weigh-ins.

What does that mean?  Not sure, honestly.

where does one see this cool information?

[Truzzcat]

1 hour ago, Idaho said:

One of them could have been at 165.1...the other at 174..... I suspect they are at 165 and 174.  Interesting to see Walters at 197 already.  

A bit surprised to see Cooper at 149 Thought he would definitely be 157/165. Hope we get to watch his wrestle off with Lachlan I think people may be surprised with how competitive that could be.

[Winners Circle]

27 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

A bit surprised to see Cooper at 149 Thought he would definitely be 157/165. Hope we get to watch his wrestle off with Lachlan I think people may be surprised with how competitive that could be.

I'm not trying to be rude or sarcastic in the slightest, so I apologize if this comes off that way. But, do you actually see this being competitive? Lachlan is a 3x AA and has only lost 3 matches in his career to guys that weren't AA's (Tom Crook & Collin Gerardi during his RSFR season, and Crook again as a RSSO). He's proven to be ultra consistent. I'm not sure I see Cooper being at that level yet, no disrespect to him and I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if it is close.

[MPhillips]

34 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

where does one see this cool information?

Track

 

[Truzzcat]

17 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

I'm not trying to be rude or sarcastic in the slightest, so I apologize if this comes off that way. But, do you actually see this being competitive? Lachlan is a 3x AA and has only lost 3 matches in his career to guys that weren't AA's (Tom Crook & Collin Gerardi during his RSFR season, and Crook again as a RSSO). He's proven to be ultra consistent. I'm not sure I see Cooper being at that level yet, no disrespect to him and I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if it is close.

I think Cooper is going to be really strong and stingy at 149, I have not seen him wrestle in over a year but one of the last matches I remember him wrestling he went 6 with PJ and lost 8-2 and did not get super overpowered. I do not think he can beat Lachlan but I also do not really see Lachlan lighting him up. Cooper seems like he will really be able to slow matches down.

[ionel]

24 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

Track ... get on it!

[nhs67]

3 hours ago, Idaho said:

One of them could have been at 165.1...the other at 174..... I suspect they are at 165 and 174.  Interesting to see Walters at 197 already.  

Right, but most of the rumbling was that they were going 174 and 184.

[scourge165]

On 9/17/2025 at 1:49 PM, Idaho said:

One of them could have been at 165.1...the other at 174..... I suspect they are at 165 and 174.  Interesting to see Walters at 197 already.  

I was of the impression that was the weight they qualified for. I wouldn't think they'd all be down to their weights for the qualification. 

[nhs67]

34 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

I was of the impression that was the weight they qualified for. I wouldn't think they'd all be down to their weights for the qualification. 

No.  It's what they weighed during yhe certification weight.

Some schools get them down to weight for it, others don't.

[flyingcement]

Just now, nhs67 said:

No.  It's what they weighed during yhe certification weight.

Some schools get them down to weight for it, others don't.

I thought you only need to certify one weight above that which you plan on wrestling.  I could be wrong totally or maybe it has changed since

[nhs67]

2 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I thought you only need to certify one weight above that which you plan on wrestling.  I could be wrong totally or maybe it has changed since

Blaze certified at 184, so I don't think so.

[flyingcement]

1 minute ago, nhs67 said:

Blaze certified at 184, so I don't think so.

[flyingcement]

2 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Blaze certified at 184, so I don't think so.

he is going 165 this year anyway so he would only have one more to get down.  

Unless... no - I hope you aren't talking about Marcus!

Edited September 19, 2025 by flyingcement

[scourge165]

1 minute ago, flyingcement said:

I thought you only need to certify one weight above that which you plan on wrestling.  I could be wrong totally or maybe it has changed since

I don't think so... but this is also incomplete. You can re-test(could... last I knew) and someone may have "certified" at 167 and they re-test at 164.5 and can go 165... but if you could cut a whole weight after certifying, it's not really certifying...right?

5 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

No.  It's what they weighed during yhe certification weight.

Some schools get them down to weight for it, others don't.

That's the weight they weighed during the certification? That also just doesn't make sense to me.

You'd have guys making weight for no reason. Ragusin and everyone is already down to weight long before they have to actually make weight? That's pretty unusual. 

[nhs67]

8 hours ago, scourge165 said:

I don't think so... but this is also incomplete. You can re-test(could... last I knew) and someone may have "certified" at 167 and they re-test at 164.5 and can go 165... but if you could cut a whole weight after certifying, it's not really certifying...right?

That's the weight they weighed during the certification? That also just doesn't make sense to me.

You'd have guys making weight for no reason. Ragusin and everyone is already down to weight long before they have to actually make weight? That's pretty unusual. 

Ragusin isn't down to weight.  He weighed 133.1-141.0.

Also, they are still held to the 1.5% per week after the initial test.

[nhs67]

8 hours ago, scourge165 said:

I don't think so... but this is also incomplete. You can re-test(could... last I knew) and someone may have "certified" at 167 and they re-test at 164.5 and can go 165... but if you could cut a whole weight after certifying, it's not really certifying...right?

That's the weight they weighed during the certification? That also just doesn't make sense to me.

You'd have guys making weight for no reason. Ragusin and everyone is already down to weight long before they have to actually make weight? That's pretty unusual. 

What doesn't make sense?

Some schools know they have a good 'pincher' for it.  Other schools don't chance it.  This runs rampant at every level there are alpha certifications.  Some will do it as early as they can, and some make their guys get down to the weight and have ZERO fails along the hydration portion of it (interesting, huh?).  It is also why we see stark contrasts between teams like Iowa State and Penn State with their certifications.  Hell, the reason for the failures of the gents for Iowa State, I would wager, are due to hydration.

[Owen Rector]

Wow Kasak has really bulked up. Crazy how he started his college career at 141

[Idaho]

12 hours ago, flyingcement said:

On that note, ASU currently has 10 heavyweights. 

[TW8]

On 9/17/2025 at 8:49 AM, nhs67 said:

It appears both Brock and Beau weighed in between 165-174lbs for their certification weigh-ins.

What does that mean?  Not sure, honestly.

74 and 84 would be my guess

[Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan]

On 9/17/2025 at 8:49 AM, nhs67 said:

It appears both Brock and Beau weighed in between 165-174lbs for their certification weigh-ins.

What does that mean?  Not sure, honestly.

What about Sergio Lemley??

[Idaho]

15 hours ago, Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan said:

What about Sergio Lemley??

He's on the list, but does not have a weight next to his name. It's just not in this screenshot. Same as Trost, Tanefeus and of course Consuelos...we can't forget where he fits into the picture. 

[flyingcement]

This is what Wrestlestat is showing for Northern Iowa right now  - vs what I think its going to be:
125: Trever Anderson - no argument here
133: Julian Farber - in agreement
141: Carter Freeman - I think Cory Land will take it
149: Caleb Rathjen - yep
157: Cael Rahnavardi - I think Ryder Downey or Jack Thomsen sucks down
165: Ryder Downey - see above
174: Jared Simma - yes
184: CJ Walrath - mm hm
197: Kalob Runyon - I think John Gunderson bumps up and surprises folks
285: Wyatt Volker - agreed

[scourge165]

On 9/19/2025 at 6:47 AM, nhs67 said:

What doesn't make sense?

Some schools know they have a good 'pincher' for it.  Other schools don't chance it.  This runs rampant at every level there are alpha certifications.  Some will do it as early as they can, and some make their guys get down to the weight and have ZERO fails along the hydration portion of it (interesting, huh?).  It is also why we see stark contrasts between teams like Iowa State and Penn State with their certifications.  Hell, the reason for the failures of the gents for Iowa State, I would wager, are due to hydration.

Well... just as I said, that they'd make scratch weight for certification. 

 

On 9/19/2025 at 6:47 AM, nhs67 said:

Some schools know they have a good 'pincher' for it.  Other schools don't chance it.  This runs rampant at every level there are alpha certifications.  Some will do it as early as they can, and some make their guys get down to the weight and have ZERO fails along the hydration portion of it (interesting, huh?).

No, we just scooped water out of the toilet and nobody said anything. 

But that was a while ago, I thought the certification was a bit more... rigorous now. For instance, now we have someone other than our trainer come in and they test(last I heard anyway). 

 

On 9/19/2025 at 6:47 AM, nhs67 said:

It is also why we see stark contrasts between teams like Iowa State and Penn State with their certifications.  Hell, the reason for the failures of the gents for Iowa State, I would wager, are due to hydration.

Or they didn't test, but alright. 

Just didn't really make sense to me to have a guy make weight for nothing, especially since... at least WAY back in the in the mid aughts, you could just re-test if you were off. So if you certified at 174.8 or you were too far over, you could wait and... certify later. Like PSU with Kasak, Duke. Safe to assume one will go '57 this year, but Kasak is certified at '74 and Duke isn't in there at 157? Or Nagao. I assumed he was going '41, but he's "certified" at '57. So if they're saying you can only go down one weight from certification...  

But that's all, it just seems like a miserable experiance, I thought the weight you certified at wa...the weight you could go to, and that first cut and you have to do it hydrated and you have to do it with no match on the line and make scratch weight. 

 

For all the guys who haven't Wrestled all off-season or who are going down from where they Wrestled, them getting down, on weight and hydrated... plus my belief that "certified," meant those were the weights they were... certified to Wrestle. 

That's why is didn't "make sense" to me to do it this way. 

Edited September 21, 2025 by scourge165

[scourge165]

On 9/19/2025 at 11:36 AM, TW8 said:

74 and 84 would be my guess

That's brutal. Also, something else that doesn't make sense to me. 

Ferrari is the #1 ranked guy on Wrestlestat, McEnelly who took 3rd with losses to just Starocci and PK in very close matches is #2, Sinclair is #8, Ryder 12th and Mantanona 6th.

I would think they'd want to be at '65 and '74 again given the insane depth and youth at '84, but... Mantanona is probably confident he's in that group... so long as he doesn't have any of the Refs that did the Mantanona's HS State Finals matches at the B1Gs or NCAAs...

[wrestlingfan22]

22 hours ago, flyingcement said:

This is what Wrestlestat is showing for Northern Iowa right now  - vs what I think its going to be:
125: Trever Anderson - no argument here
133: Julian Farber - in agreement
141: Carter Freeman - I think Cory Land will take it
149: Caleb Rathjen - yep
157: Cael Rahnavardi - I think Ryder Downey or Jack Thomsen sucks down
165: Ryder Downey - see above
174: Jared Simma - yes
184: CJ Walrath - mm hm
197: Kalob Runyon - I think John Gunderson bumps up and surprises folks
285: Wyatt Volker - agreed

I've seen rumors of Land 33 and Farber moving up to 41, but I'm not sure if that is still a possibility