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Is this top 3 the best top 3 we’ve ever seen for this weight? Glad to alive around such talent

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  On 3/9/2025 at 3:57 PM, Ragu said:

Is this top 3 the best top 3 we’ve ever seen for this weight? Glad to alive around such talent

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Maybe just based on the top 2 guys alone, Pindrickson is just frosting on the cake. 

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Would love to see the betting odds. But call me crazy, its a three horse race this year and it’s close

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  On 3/9/2025 at 4:08 PM, MlCHIGANMADE said:

I'd say the year with Stevenson Parris and Kerkvliet was the best 3

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  On 3/9/2025 at 5:40 PM, 1032004 said:

This

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That year '22 both Kerk and Parris were dealing with injuries.  Kerk had to Med For out for 3rd and Parris took a loss to Cohlton Schultz.  This year is better.  

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Snyder (highest=gold 4x), Gwiz (bronze 2x), Coon (silver 1x)

Gable (gold), Parris (bronze), Kerk (none)

And the counts matter.

Snyder 9 + Gwiz 2 + Coon 1

Gable + Parris + Kerk = two. Total.

12>2. 4 golds>1 gold. If you think otherwise then I hate to break it to you but your math ain't mathin'

 

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The year with Konrad and Mocco and Cain Velasquez in 3rd or 4th was pretty great.  You can't top Steveson, but I'd take senior Mocco over Kervliet for sure.

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  On 3/10/2025 at 2:47 AM, bnwtwg said:

Snyder (highest=gold 4x), Gwiz (bronze 2x), Coon (silver 1x)

Gable (gold), Parris (bronze), Kerk (none)

And the counts matter.

Snyder 9 + Gwiz 2 + Coon 1

Gable + Parris + Kerk = two. Total.

12>2. 4 golds>1 gold. If you think otherwise then I hate to break it to you but your math ain't mathin'

 

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None of Snyder's international medals came at heavyweight.  I don't think peak snyder has a chance with Steveson.

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  On 3/10/2025 at 2:52 AM, boconnell said:

None of Snyder's international medals came at heavyweight.  I don't think peak snyder has a chance with Steveson.

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I don't see anyone in this class cutting down to 97 so I suppose that's a moot point eh?

Also, you cannot disregard Snyder beating Cox in college when they both were about to earn Olympic medals, Gwiz when he was about to win both of his, and Coon when he had his. And of course Snyder never weighed in more than 229 but arguing about weight classes is semantics when it comes to heavyweight apparently.

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  On 3/9/2025 at 8:37 PM, Luckysevens said:

Hard to beat Steveson at number one but the 97 tournament was pretty good with Kerry McCoy, Steven Neal, and Tolly Thompson.

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That's the one I was going to cite. Wasn't there a stud from Northern Iowa as well? An era of really athletic and big HWTs. 

Tommy Rowlands had some loaded weights also with guys like Garrett Lowney in there. It kinda feels like Stevenson's Olympic gold will skew people toward one of the years he was in it. 

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  On 3/10/2025 at 4:41 AM, RawDog said:

Man I hope we someday get a Gable Snyder Flo card.

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Oh damn...I've never thought about that. I don't see much upside there for Snyder but that'd be fun. 

Stevenson moves like a much smaller HWT(obviously). And Snyder is a grind you down with hand fighting and then attack type of Wrestler. 

I'd go about 60/40 in favor of the big guy. 

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  On 3/10/2025 at 4:31 AM, bnwtwg said:

I don't see anyone in this class cutting down to 97 so I suppose that's a moot point eh?

Also, you cannot disregard Snyder beating Cox in college when they both were about to earn Olympic medals, Gwiz when he was about to win both of his, and Coon when he had his. And of course Snyder never weighed in more than 229 but arguing about weight classes is semantics when it comes to heavyweight apparently.

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I'd agree that college Snyder was just as good a wrestler as Steveson.  They both beat some incredible opponents during that time.  

I just think the 50ish pounds would matter quite a bit.

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  On 3/10/2025 at 2:47 AM, bnwtwg said:

Snyder (highest=gold 4x), Gwiz (bronze 2x), Coon (silver 1x)

Gable (gold), Parris (bronze), Kerk (none)

And the counts matter.

Snyder 9 + Gwiz 2 + Coon 1

Gable + Parris + Kerk = two. Total.

12>2. 4 golds>1 gold. If you think otherwise then I hate to break it to you but your math ain't mathin'

 

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I’d take peak Gable over peak Snyder at 285.

I’d also take peak Parris over peak Gwiz, and peak Kerk over peak Coon.

But @PortaJohn has a fair point, 2022 wasn’t peak Parris or Kerk

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The last several years have been the best years for heavyweight ever.  The number of age group world champs and medalists is amazing.  In fact, in terms of international accolades, i would say that heavyweight has given us some of the best weight classes ever.  (Gable, Kerk, Wyatt, Trumble, Cassioppi, Kueter, Schultz, Feldman, Davison(?))

 

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