2025 Transfer Portal

[ionel]

  On 4/2/2025 at 10:42 PM, Lleynor said:

Is Brayden Thompson on Ryder’s level?

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He has not shown the level he should be on but next year who knows.  Betting someone in the room has an idea.  

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/2/2025 at 10:50 PM, nhs67 said:

I wouldn't be upset.  That brotato one is pretty cool.

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IKR? 

[Lleynor]

  On 4/2/2025 at 10:51 PM, ionel said:

He has not shown the level he should be on but next year who knows.  Betting someone in the room has an idea.  

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Good point. 
 

Was Ryder one of DT’s students in Pennsylvania? Still surprised that lots of his kids didn’t follow him. 

[ionel]

  On 4/2/2025 at 10:56 PM, Lleynor said:

Good point. 
 

Was Ryder one of DT’s students in Pennsylvania? Still surprised that lots of his kids didn’t follow him. 

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I don't have that answer but someone should be along soon with intel. 

[nhs67]

  On 4/2/2025 at 10:56 PM, Lleynor said:

Good point. 
 

Was Ryder one of DT’s students in Pennsylvania? Still surprised that lots of his kids didn’t follow him. 

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Thought Ryder was a NY guy, like Duke?

[jajensen09]

Hmmm

[1032004]

  On 4/2/2025 at 10:51 PM, ionel said:

He has not shown the level he should be on but next year who knows.  Betting someone in the room has an idea.  

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Going after Welsh and presumably Ryder might be a hint…

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 4/2/2025 at 10:16 PM, poorwrestler said:

When do teams have to be officially at 30 guys? Does the transfer portal close 5 months before that deadline? Brutal


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The settlement still needs final approval. Hearing is set for April 7.

[flyingcement]

  On 4/2/2025 at 11:03 PM, jajensen09 said:

Hmmm

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makes sense that Trumble would get some offers.  I thought OK St and Penn State might even be interested 

[Idaho]

  On 4/2/2025 at 10:50 PM, nhs67 said:

I wouldn't be upset.  That brotato one is pretty cool.

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Nah the Ninja Tater stays.... I may just break that brotato out for special occasions . 

[jajensen09]

  On 4/2/2025 at 11:16 PM, flyingcement said:

makes sense that Trumble would get some offers.  I thought OK St and Penn State might even be interested 

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Nebraska has a need there and he is from there

[ionel]

  On 4/2/2025 at 11:16 PM, flyingcement said:

makes sense that Trumble would get some offers.  I thought OK St and Penn State might even be interested 

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Have to believe OSU is negotiating with someone.  

[Idaho]

  On 4/2/2025 at 10:16 PM, poorwrestler said:

When do teams have to be officially at 30 guys? Does the transfer portal close 5 months before that deadline? Brutal


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The portal officially closes on May 2nd but it unofficially closes never. My guess on roster would be first official day of practice or first competition. I am guessing we know more specifics when it is implemented. 

 

[flyingcement]

  On 4/2/2025 at 11:37 PM, ionel said:

Have to believe OSU is negotiating with someone.  

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something tells me you know something you are not at liberty to disclose.  you have me curious

[Kov88]

  On 4/2/2025 at 8:39 PM, BarSeries said:

 

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Hey Ryder, oddly enough an 84’ spot just opened up at tOSU…. How random 

[Idaho]

  On 4/2/2025 at 10:42 PM, Lleynor said:

Is Brayden Thompson on Ryder’s level?

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Weird that Thompson beat Ryder at WNO in HS, but hasn't really looked that great since.

[ionel]

  On 4/2/2025 at 11:38 PM, flyingcement said:

something tells me you know something you are not at liberty to disclose.  you have me curious

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[BAC]

It's an interesting question what PSU should do in this situation. 

Let's assume (and I know some question this) that Welsh's transfer was initiated by Welsh, and PSU, knowing he was a luxury but not a need, didn't do much more than say "sure we'd love to have you" without throwing any NIL money at him (at least not beyond what the cooperative pays).

Let's also assume that Welsh and Ryder are basically interchangeable.  (I think they are.)

Questions:

--Should PSU have checked with Ryder first?  

--If they check with him, and he says "I don't want that, I'll transfer if you bring him in," should they let Welsh transfer anyway?  Or should they say "Sorry Rocco, we're good, maybe try somewhere else."

One answer is that while PSU should give Ryder a courtesy heads up, PSU should bring Welsh in no matter what, on the theory that you should never turn down new talent (unless he's got personal baggage). If a guy doesn't want to compete for their spot, that's counter to the team's open-door philosophy, and they're probably better off elsewhere anyway.

But on the other hand, I feel like this is a net loss for PSU.  They make an even exchange, Ryder for Welsh, but Welsh has one less year of eligibility, and they don't know how Welsh will gel with the team.  And other PSU recruits, especially those who bonded with Ryder, feel unsettled/annoyed, destabilizing the team.

 I think I lean toward the first answer, but curious what others think.

[flyingcement]

  On 4/3/2025 at 12:13 AM, BAC said:

It's an interesting question what PSU should do in this situation. 

Let's assume (and I know some question this) that Welsh's transfer was initiated by Welsh, and PSU, knowing he was a luxury but not a need, didn't do much more than say "sure we'd love to have you" without throwing any NIL money at him (at least not beyond what the cooperative pays).

Let's also assume that Welsh and Ryder are basically interchangeable.  (I think they are.)

Questions:

--Should PSU have checked with Ryder first?  

--If they check with him, and he says "I don't want that, I'll transfer if you bring him in," should they let Welsh transfer anyway?  Or should they say "Sorry Rocco, we're good, maybe try somewhere else."

One answer is that while PSU should give Ryder a courtesy heads up, PSU should bring Welsh in no matter what, on the theory that you should never turn down new talent (unless he's got personal baggage). If a guy doesn't want to compete for their spot, that's counter to the team's open-door philosophy, and they're probably better off elsewhere anyway.

But on the other hand, I feel like this is a net loss for PSU.  They make an even exchange, Ryder for Welsh, but Welsh has one less year of eligibility, and they don't know how Welsh will gel with the team.  And other PSU recruits, especially those who bonded with Ryder, feel unsettled/annoyed, destabilizing the team.

 I think I lean toward the first answer, but curious what others think.

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I think that for a top level program to remain a top level program, there is only so much loyalty you can provide.  I don't like the idea of someone fearing for their starting spot and transferring out instead of accepting the challenge (not what I'm saying has happened here - but what has happened in other situations)

[Kov88]

  On 4/3/2025 at 12:13 AM, BAC said:

It's an interesting question what PSU should do in this situation. 

Let's assume (and I know some question this) that Welsh's transfer was initiated by Welsh, and PSU, knowing he was a luxury but not a need, didn't do much more than say "sure we'd love to have you" without throwing any NIL money at him (at least not beyond what the cooperative pays).

Let's also assume that Welsh and Ryder are basically interchangeable.  (I think they are.)

Questions:

--Should PSU have checked with Ryder first?  

--If they check with him, and he says "I don't want that, I'll transfer if you bring him in," should they let Welsh transfer anyway?  Or should they say "Sorry Rocco, we're good, maybe try somewhere else."

One answer is that while PSU should give Ryder a courtesy heads up, PSU should bring Welsh in no matter what, on the theory that you should never turn down new talent (unless he's got personal baggage). If a guy doesn't want to compete for their spot, that's counter to the team's open-door philosophy, and they're probably better off elsewhere anyway.

But on the other hand, I feel like this is a net loss for PSU.  They make an even exchange, Ryder for Welsh, but Welsh has one less year of eligibility, and they don't know how Welsh will gel with the team.  And other PSU recruits, especially those who bonded with Ryder, feel unsettled/annoyed, destabilizing the team.

 I think I lean toward the first answer, but curious what others think.

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It all depends on how the program feels about the wrestler that is getting his spot challenged….. if they are high on him I feel like it should be a discussion, if they aren’t high on him you bring in the talent to make your team better

[BAC]

  On 4/3/2025 at 12:16 AM, flyingcement said:

I think that for a top level program to remain a top level program, there is only so much loyalty you can provide.  I don't like the idea of someone fearing for their starting spot and transferring out instead of accepting the challenge (not what I'm saying has happened here - but what has happened in other situations)

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I tend to agree, although I don't fault Ryder.  Even if PSU did nothing wrong, it's not unreasonable for Ryder to say, "Look, competition's great, but let's be real, the wrestle-off is a coin flip, and one of my goals is to be a 4x AA.  I can get good competition at OSU too, and not have to worry about beating out a NCAA runner-up to get my spot."

PSU also has to be careful in this situation to not do something that makes Ryder think they prefer Welsh.  It's a fine line between PSU just "not saying no" and PSU being perceived by Ryder as going out of their way to lure in Welsh once he expressed his interest. 

[VakAttack]

The framing of virtuous Penn State. So fun.  This is a dirty game now, fellas, and PSU is playing it as much as anybody else.

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/2/2025 at 11:29 PM, Idaho said:

Nah the Ninja Tater stays.... I may just break that brotato out for special occasions . 

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I’ll expect credit 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/2/2025 at 11:45 PM, Idaho said:

Weird that Thompson beat Ryder at WNO in HS, but hasn't really looked that great since.

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I was thinking cringe but weird works 

Edited Thursday at 12:58 AM by JimmySpeaks

[Offthemat]

  On 4/2/2025 at 11:38 PM, Idaho said:

The portal officially closes on May 2nd but it unofficially closes never.

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That’s only for entry, right?