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[Wrestej]

7 hours ago, The_KC_Godfather said:

Not really. Bailey maybe, but I’m shocked Mizzou even entertained Williams with the off the mat stuff. I’d prefer to ensure we don’t lose Mendoza’s commitment by adding a Bailey.

I saw an interview from AAs with Steed saying himself, Williams, and I forget the third mentioned but they all trained together for quite some time.  So I’m sure Steed and Williams are still close friends so he might have a better insight to if Williams learned a valuable lesson.  Just a guess

[Wrestej]

7 hours ago, Kyle said:

This. I’d rather hope Roller and Rath play into 49 and 57 and solve that problem. Sinclair and Peyton at 84 and 97 (if and when Rocky leaves). Team looks fine, just not the greatest depth at the higher weights. Taking in two (I think) transfers that are already injury-proned to a team riddled with injury would be silly. 

You can never have enough talent in the room.  Mendoza doesn’t strike me as the type to run from a challenge.

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Louie Gill and Hunter Catka would fit in well in Morgantown

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Remy Cotton from MSU is taking a visit to ISU

[BAC]

Kinda funny that the Iowa people have been trashing PSU for sneakily poaching Welsh from Ohio State when they weren't looking, that they're the Lance Armstrong of wrestling, blah blah blah.  A few days later, a couple truths come out.

1. Welsh confirms that his PSU contact was only after entering the portal, and is something he'd wanted for a long time beforehand since he wanted better practice partners than tOSU was able to give him. Also confirms PSU was never a done deal (but was one of a couple that HE was targeting since, after all, it was all about getting better partners), that he'd fielded numerous far-more-lucrative cash offers from other schools, but instead chose PSU with its small NIL collective for the strength of its room, in a decision made only yesterday.  

2. Iowa shells out the bucks to pluck not one but TWO starters from tiny Little Rock, which is sort of like Elon Musk mugging a homeless man to steal his shoes.

Queue the jokes about "lolz oh yeah I'm SURE they just wanna be in State College lololol."

Except... yeah, they just really wanna be in State College.  At least Rocco does. 

You can accuse PSU of poaching, but to do so, you need to call Rocco a liar.  I'm not willing to do that.

I'm anti-poaching, and I'd be on PSU's case if they were chasing down Rocco to enter the portal and throwing lots of money at him to displace Ryder.  But I also do NOT think any coach should have to say "No, you are not welcome here" if they come banging on your door and saying they want to compete for a spot.  This sounds more like the latter.

Meanwhile, Iowa's reverse-Robin-Hood act continues, robbing from the poor so the rich can get richer.  Hey, maybe you can get Steven Little too, and get Little Rock's program cancelled entirely? 

Edited Sunday at 11:39 PM by BAC

[Spencerlee]

2 minutes ago, BAC said:

Kinda funny that the Iowa people have been trashing PSU for sneakily poaching Welsh from Ohio State when they weren't looking, that they're the Lance Armstrong of wrestling, blah blah blah.  A few days later, a couple truths come out.

1. Welsh confirms that his PSU contact was only after entering the portal, and is something he'd wanted for a long time beforehand since he wanted better practice partners than tOSU was able to give him. Also confirms PSU was never a done deal (but was one of a couple that HE was targeting since, after all, it was all about getting better partners), that he'd fielded numerous far-more-lucrative cash offers from other schools, but instead chose PSU with its small NIL collective for the strength of its room, in a decision made only yesterday.  

2. Iowa shells out the bucks to pluck not one but TWO starters from tiny Little Rock, which is sort of like Elon Musk mugging a homeless man to steal his shoes.

Queue the jokes about "lolz oh yeah I'm SURE they just wanna be in State College lololol."

Except... yeah, they just really wanna be in State College.  At least Rocco does.

You can accuse PSU of poaching, but to do so, you need to call Rocco a liar.  I'm anti-poaching, but do NOT think any coach should say "No, you are not welcome here" if they come banging on your door and saying they want to compete for a spot.  And so it is here.

Sure thing buddy

[The Kid]

4 minutes ago, BAC said:

Kinda funny that the Iowa people have been trashing PSU for sneakily poaching Welsh from Ohio State when they weren't looking, that they're the Lance Armstrong of wrestling, blah blah blah.  A few days later, a couple truths come out.

1. Welsh confirms that his PSU contact was only after entering the portal, and is something he'd wanted for a long time beforehand since he wanted better practice partners than tOSU was able to give him. Also confirms PSU was never a done deal (but was one of a couple that HE was targeting since, after all, it was all about getting better partners), that he'd fielded numerous far-more-lucrative cash offers from other schools, but instead chose PSU with its small NIL collective for the strength of its room, in a decision made only yesterday.  

2. Iowa shells out the bucks to pluck not one but TWO starters from tiny Little Rock, which is sort of like Elon Musk mugging a homeless man to steal his shoes.

Queue the jokes about "lolz oh yeah I'm SURE they just wanna be in State College lololol."

Except... yeah, they just really wanna be in State College.  At least Rocco does.

You can accuse PSU of poaching, but to do so, you need to call Rocco a liar.  I'm anti-poaching, but do NOT think any coach should say "No, you are not welcome here" if they come banging on your door and saying they want to compete for a spot.  And so it is here.

Why didn't he commit to them 2 years ago?   

[VakAttack]

8 minutes ago, BAC said:

Kinda funny that the Iowa people have been trashing PSU for sneakily poaching Welsh from Ohio State when they weren't looking, that they're the Lance Armstrong of wrestling, blah blah blah.  A few days later, a couple truths come out.

1. Welsh confirms that his PSU contact was only after entering the portal, and is something he'd wanted for a long time beforehand since he wanted better practice partners than tOSU was able to give him. Also confirms PSU was never a done deal (but was one of a couple that HE was targeting since, after all, it was all about getting better partners), that he'd fielded numerous far-more-lucrative cash offers from other schools, but instead chose PSU with its small NIL collective for the strength of its room, in a decision made only yesterday.  

2. Iowa shells out the bucks to pluck not one but TWO starters from tiny Little Rock, which is sort of like Elon Musk mugging a homeless man to steal his shoes.

Queue the jokes about "lolz oh yeah I'm SURE they just wanna be in State College lololol."

Except... yeah, they just really wanna be in State College.  At least Rocco does. 

You can accuse PSU of poaching, but to do so, you need to call Rocco a liar.  I'm not willing to do that.

I'm anti-poaching, and I'd be on PSU's case if they were chasing down Rocco to enter the portal and throwing lots of money at him to displace Ryder.  But I also do NOT think any coach should have to say "No, you are not welcome here" if they come banging on your door and saying they want to compete for a spot.  This sounds more like the latter.

Meanwhile, Iowa's reverse-Robin-Hood act continues, robbing from the poor so the rich can get richer.  Hey, maybe you can get Steven Little too, and get Little Rock's program cancelled entirely? 

It is impressively limber of to you bend your opinion so that it defines PSU as good and Iowa as bad.

[BAC]

Just now, The Kid said:

Why didn't he commit to them 2 years ago?   

You'd have to ask him.  There was a graphic when he was a recruit showing PSU wasn't even in their top 10. 

My personal guess is that Barr and Welsh were sort of arch-enemies when they were in high school, constantly trading narrow victories over each other.  When Barr picked PSU, I have to assume Welch decided to look elsewhere.  Again, that's pure speculation on my part.

I'd also assume he thought he'd be able to get more of a challenge from the OSU room.  But it sounds like they just didn't have anyone there who could challenge him, especially when Kharchla was injured, so he felt like he wasn't getting better.  In the podcast he said he had a meeting with the coaches to bring in some guys to the RTC, but that didn't happen.  He also said he was still "angry" about not being allowed to compete for a spot (which he now calls a "miscommunication").  

Sounds to me like tOSU made its own bed here, and the beneficiary wasn't going to be the school with the biggest pocketbook, but the school with the best room.  Love 'em or hate 'em, that's PSU.

[Mr. PeanutButter]

Watched Basch's video. Still don't really understand what the source of the original rift was in December? He said he was going to go 174 but then "some stuff happened" and decided to go up to 184 and since he had a "redshirt to burn" he decided to sit. But then by  December that apparently didn't sit right with him. From an interview with Tom Ryan that I read my understanding was that Rocco always had the option of competing for the starting spot. So what gives?

[MPhillips]

2 minutes ago, BAC said:

Sounds to me like tOSU made its own bed here,

No question...

[MizzouFan01]

1 hour ago, Wrestej said:

I saw an interview from AAs with Steed saying himself, Williams, and I forget the third mentioned but they all trained together for quite some time.  So I’m sure Steed and Williams are still close friends so he might have a better insight to if Williams learned a valuable lesson.  Just a guess

Incoming recruit Gerald “boogie” Harris. They all went to Collinsville High and trained at Threestyle together. 

[BAC]

3 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

It is impressively limber of to you bend your opinion so that it defines PSU as good and Iowa as bad.

I'm just taking Welsh at his word.  Are you calling him a liar?  If so, got any evidence?

Also... Little Rock? Seriously, you're cool with raiding one of the newest and tiniest programs there is?

In any case, unlike you, I'm not going to accuse Iowa of secretly trying to cut deals with your Little Rock buyouts before they entered the portal, and violating all sorts of rules to get them.  Any particular reason you didn't accuse Iowa of that, the same way you did PSU?  

[BlueWolverine]

19 minutes ago, BAC said:

Kinda funny that the Iowa people have been trashing PSU for sneakily poaching Welsh from Ohio State when they weren't looking, that they're the Lance Armstrong of wrestling, blah blah blah.  A few days later, a couple truths come out.

1. Welsh confirms that his PSU contact was only after entering the portal, and is something he'd wanted for a long time beforehand since he wanted better practice partners than tOSU was able to give him. Also confirms PSU was never a done deal (but was one of a couple that HE was targeting since, after all, it was all about getting better partners), that he'd fielded numerous far-more-lucrative cash offers from other schools, but instead chose PSU with its small NIL collective for the strength of its room, in a decision made only yesterday.  

2. Iowa shells out the bucks to pluck not one but TWO starters from tiny Little Rock, which is sort of like Elon Musk mugging a homeless man to steal his shoes.

Queue the jokes about "lolz oh yeah I'm SURE they just wanna be in State College lololol."

Except... yeah, they just really wanna be in State College.  At least Rocco does. 

You can accuse PSU of poaching, but to do so, you need to call Rocco a liar.  I'm not willing to do that.

I'm anti-poaching, and I'd be on PSU's case if they were chasing down Rocco to enter the portal and throwing lots of money at him to displace Ryder.  But I also do NOT think any coach should have to say "No, you are not welcome here" if they come banging on your door and saying they want to compete for a spot.  This sounds more like the latter.

Meanwhile, Iowa's reverse-Robin-Hood act continues, robbing from the poor so the rich can get richer.  Hey, maybe you can get Steven Little too, and get Little Rock's program cancelled entirely? 

Whatever makes you feel better........

[Masonbuckeye]

5 minutes ago, BAC said:

You'd have to ask him.  There was a graphic when he was a recruit showing PSU wasn't even in their top 10. 

My personal guess is that Barr and Welsh were sort of arch-enemies when they were in high school, constantly trading narrow victories over each other.  When Barr picked PSU, I have to assume Welch decided to look elsewhere.  Again, that's pure speculation on my part.

I'd also assume he thought he'd be able to get more of a challenge from the OSU room.  But it sounds like they just didn't have anyone there who could challenge him, especially when Kharchla was injured, so he felt like he wasn't getting better.  In the podcast he said he had a meeting with the coaches to bring in some guys to the RTC, but that didn't happen.  He also said he was still "angry" about not being allowed to compete for a spot (which he now calls a "miscommunication").  

Sounds to me like tOSU made its own bed here, and the beneficiary wasn't going to be the school with the biggest pocketbook, but the school with the best room.  Love 'em or hate 'em, that's PSU.

He also was done a little dirty by being Redshirted this year after being a returning finalist. It became obvious Sasso was never better than Cannon this season yet they threw out Sasso because of seniority. Same thing could’ve happened with Carson and they might not have made the switch because Carson had been wrestling well all year.

[VakAttack]

2 minutes ago, BAC said:

I'm just taking Welsh at his word.  Are you calling him a liar?  If so, got any evidence?

Also... Little Rock? Seriously, you're cool with raiding one of the newest and tiniest programs there is?

In any case, unlike you, I'm not going to accuse Iowa of secretly trying to cut deals with your Little Rock buyouts before they entered the portal, and violating all sorts of rules to get them.  Any particular reason you didn't accuse Iowa of that, the same way you did PSU?  

Well, in one scenario you have them going into the portal,  going on a visit to a completely different school and eventually committing to Iowa.  Then you have Welsh being announced in the portal and the IMMEDIATE reporting that it was Penn State, done deal.  Don't piss on my back and tell me it's raining.

 

And I don't remember your specific position on the Bassett NIL deal with him (and last years Iowa transfers back then) disputing the reported numbers,  but I'd LOVE to hear it.

[The Kid]

13 minutes ago, BAC said:

You'd have to ask him.  There was a graphic when he was a recruit showing PSU wasn't even in their top 10. 

My personal guess is that Barr and Welsh were sort of arch-enemies when they were in high school, constantly trading narrow victories over each other.  When Barr picked PSU, I have to assume Welch decided to look elsewhere.  Again, that's pure speculation on my part.

I'd also assume he thought he'd be able to get more of a challenge from the OSU room.  But it sounds like they just didn't have anyone there who could challenge him, especially when Kharchla was injured, so he felt like he wasn't getting better.  In the podcast he said he had a meeting with the coaches to bring in some guys to the RTC, but that didn't happen.  He also said he was still "angry" about not being allowed to compete for a spot (which he now calls a "miscommunication").  

Sounds to me like tOSU made its own bed here, and the beneficiary wasn't going to be the school with the biggest pocketbook, but the school with the best room.  Love 'em or hate 'em, that's PSU.

Yeah, the osu room that he trained it and took second as a true freshman.  No talent there, lol 

[nhs67]

21 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Watched Basch's video. Still don't really understand what the source of the original rift was in December? He said he was going to go 174 but then "some stuff happened" and decided to go up to 184 and since he had a "redshirt to burn" he decided to sit. But then by  December that apparently didn't sit right with him. From an interview with Tom Ryan that I read my understanding was that Rocco always had the option of competing for the starting spot. So what gives?

He might have wrestled 184lbs at two Opens, but his focus was 79 KG (174lbs) in MFS.  He wasn't going to descend to 174 for Redahirt matches.

[nhs67]

Gents, at the end of the day, he has seeh what they did with Barr, who was nearly a direct equal two years ago.

[Masonbuckeye]

1 minute ago, nhs67 said:

Gents, at the end of the day, he has seeh what they did with Barr, who was nearly a direct equal two years ago.

Nobody is saying he won’t do well (if he starts)

[Spencerlee]

Just now, nhs67 said:

Gents, at the end of the day, he has seeh what they did with Barr, who was nearly a direct equal two years ago.

The guy he had the same results as without a redshirt?

[VakAttack]

3 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Gents, at the end of the day, he has seeh what they did with Barr, who was nearly a direct equal two years ago.

Didn't he get the same finish?

[Wrestleknownothing]

He is clearly unhappy with the way last year unfolded at anOSU. This feels as much that he is walking away from a situation as he is walking toward a situation.