184, can Starocci take Keckeisen?

[AgaveMaria]

After watching both I think it is either very close - or a total blowout.

Carter is looking good.

Keck is looking like a world beater.

If anyone can beat Starocci, it is him. Active and rugged and can go the whole 7 minutes.

How do you see it?

[PNWfan]

Just now, AgaveMaria said:

After watching both I think it is either very close - or a total blowout.

Carter is looking good.

Keck is looking like a world beater.

If anyone can beat Starocci, it is him. Active and rugged and can go the whole 7 minutes.

How do you see it?

Starocci wins. Good enough defensively to not get scored on, and savvy enough to get one TD that will make the difference in a match where I expect the margins to be very tight.

[Bigbrog]

For some reason in my gut it feels like Keck takes this...but Star is such a gamer, so my gut may be wrong.

[Perry]

I think Keck takes it at NCAAs all and stops Star from being the first 5xer

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Didn't they wrestle earlier this year?

[nhs67]

Acting as if Starocci cannot beat him is silly.  He legitimately did it.

Now add a full season of acclimating to the weight and bear in mind that he had a failed drop to 74 KG (163lbs) four months prior to their last meeting and I think this might look more controlling than last time.  Starocci did have 35 seconds of riding time to PK's 7 seconds that time, as well.

I think we might see Starocci get that riding time advantage.

Here is the match from November.

 

[Le duke]

After watching both I think it is either very close - or a total blowout.
Carter is looking good.
Keck is looking like a world beater.
If anyone can beat Starocci, it is him. Active and rugged and can go the whole 7 minutes.
How do you see it?

Just like the match they already wrestled.


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[BloodRound]

If Starocci were to lose, what type of social media post is he making about it?

[JimmyCinnabon]

Carter is 1-0 against Keckeisen so the question would be reversed. And yes, Parker can beat him. Will he? I do not believe so. Leading up to the NWCA classic I saw a lot of people picking Parker to win that. I think people are fueled by hopium on this one.

Edited yesterday at 05:19 PM by JimmyCinnabon

[Pinnacle]

What keck has done against other guys has nothing to do with any match with Starocci. 

[headshuck]

McEnelly takes out Starocci in the semis.

[RandolphTJones]

4 minutes ago, headshuck said:

McEnelly takes out Starocci in the semis.

Wouldn't be a complete shock the way Max has been wrestling this year. 

[MPhillips]

11 minutes ago, RandolphTJones said:

Wouldn't be a complete shock the way Max has been wrestling this year. 

It would...

[Pinnacle]

One day McEnnelly will might become like Keckeisen is today, but he isn't on that level yet. He couldn't get thru Gabe Arnold so I doubt he could get thru Carter.

This board has predicted or implied Ferrari Light, Keckeisen and now McEnnelly might beat Carter Starocci who hasn't lost in 4 years. I'm often wrong, so maybe it really could happen.

Edited yesterday at 06:25 PM by Pinnacle

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

5 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

One day McEnnelly will might become like Keckeisen is today, but he isn't on that level yet. He couldn't get thru Gabe Arnold so I doubt he could get thru Carter.

This board has predicted or implied Ferrari Light, Keckeisen and now McEnnelly might beat Carter Starocci who hasn't lost in 4 years. I'm often wrong, so maybe it really could happen.

Didn't he beat Gabe Arnold though?

[Pinnacle]

4 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Didn't he beat Gabe Arnold though?

In SV. He'd never get there vs Starocci.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

2 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

In SV. He'd never get there vs Starocci.

Yeah, but he did "get through" Arnold.  He took him down and won the match.  I think he's capable of taking down Starocci too.

[nhs67]

1 hour ago, JimmyCinnabon said:

Carter is 1-0 against Keckeisen so the question would be reversed. And yes, Parker can beat him. Will he? I do not believe so. Leading up to the NWCA classic I saw a lot of people picking Parker to win that. I think people are fueled by hopium on this one.

This isn't true.

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:44 PM by nhs67

[BruceyB]

18 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

This isn't true.

Keck went in for the bro hug at the end of the match and Starocci wasn't having it.

[JimmyCinnabon]

16 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

This isn't true.

 

 

 

I hadn't see this one. They are 1-1 against each other. I'm giving the edge to Parker after watching this one!

[nhs67]

8 minutes ago, JimmyCinnabon said:

I hadn't see this one. They are 1-1 against each other. I'm giving the edge to Parker after watching this one!

[pokemonster]

Hmmm, Parker had hair back then. I think things have changed. Based on this year's results, I'm taking Starocci, but would love an upset. 

[Truzzcat]

I cannot unsee Carter controlling the hand fight and holding center the entire match as well as seeing keck gas which was something I never thought I would see. You can argue keck was not peaked for that one and will be for this, but I think the same is probably true for Carter.

[Konquest]

I think an interesting question is this:

If Parker Keckeisen loses a close NCAA final to Carter Starocci, where does he rank all-time among 1x NCAA champs? 

I'd certainly put him up there with Alan Fried, Andrew Howe, etc. as one of the best ever 1x champs.

Also, if PK were to beat Starocci and stop him from becoming 5x champ, is he in Hodge contention with guys like Gable, Mesenbrink who have no legit challengers?  Or does the winner of this match get MOW at the tournament and Gable gets the Hodge?

 

[jchapman]

12 minutes ago, Konquest said:

I think an interesting question is this:

If Parker Keckeisen loses a close NCAA final to Carter Starocci, where does he rank all-time among 1x NCAA champs? 

I'd certainly put him up there with Alan Fried, Andrew Howe, etc. as one of the best ever 1x champs.

Also, if PK were to beat Starocci and stop him from becoming 5x champ, is he in Hodge contention with guys like Gable, Mesenbrink who have no legit challengers?  Or does the winner of this match get MOW at the tournament and Gable gets the Hodge?

 

up there with Duane Goldman