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  On 2/17/2025 at 2:17 AM, Caveira said:

Let him win something in college before comparing him to Spencer Lee.  

also. Is 125 the weakest it has been on a long time?   Maybe ever?

ramos didn’t aa last year. 
figs won it but is injured? 

v Robinson wasn’t at NCAAs last year 

poulin r12

spratley r12 

The weight lost Ayala, noto,stanich, Barnett, Braden Davis….    

Basically all of the weight cleared out.   

 

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LOL...so in other words, lets see him win an NCAA Title...but if he does, does it really even matter given how weak the weight is this year? 

 

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  On 2/21/2025 at 11:02 PM, scourge165 said:

LOL...so in other words, lets see him win an NCAA Title...but if he does, does it really even matter given how weak the weight is this year? 

 

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Fair.  It is weak. And he is no where near as dominant as true freshmen Spencer Lee was.   

Posted
  On 2/21/2025 at 11:27 PM, Caveira said:

Fair.  It is weak. And he is no where near as dominant as true freshmen Spencer Lee was.   

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Yeah, I don't think he's on Spencer's level. I've never seen them compared until someone later tried justifying the comp. 

I do think he can win it and I think a little bit is being put on him. 

People are presenting what this kid has done as some sort of let down. IF someone compared him to Lee, that was unfair(just as it was to Taylor who was compared to Sanderson or Metcalf to Brands and those proved to be pretty valid)...but he's a true Freshmen who has been pretty damn good. 

 

If I was a PSU fan, I wouldn't be able to car less if he went TF, TF, TF, 6-1 en route to winning a title, or that a lot of people graduated. And on that last point, I think you can say the same about other weights. As you have these guys who got the free Covid year clearing out, you're losing a LOT of AAs. 

Posted
  On 2/21/2025 at 11:27 PM, Caveira said:

Fair.  It is weak. And he is no where near as dominant as true freshmen Spencer Lee was.   

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True freshman Spencer Lee had only 1 loss at this point, but it was to Ronnie Bresser, who was on about a similar level as Peterson/McCrone.

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Posted
  On 2/22/2025 at 1:20 AM, 1032004 said:

True freshman Spencer Lee had only 1 loss at this point, but it was to Ronnie Bresser, who was on about a similar level as Peterson/McCrone.

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You’re not wearing.   You are snorting the blue glasses a bit to Much if you think luke is comparable dominance wise to Spencer at this point.  

Posted
  On 2/22/2025 at 1:25 AM, Caveira said:

You’re not wearing.   You are snorting the blue glasses a bit to Much if you think luke is comparable dominance wise to Spencer at this point.  

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No, I’ve repeatedly acknowledged that he was not comparable “dominance wise” to Spencer Lee.

He still has a chance to have a better overall career though…

Posted
  On 2/21/2025 at 11:02 PM, scourge165 said:

LOL...so in other words, lets see him win an NCAA Title...but if he does, does it really even matter given how weak the weight is this year? 

 

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The weight has a returning national champ and a returning finalist who beat Spencer Lee. I don't think the weight is weak. Might not be very deep but the top 2 are pretty legit.

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Posted
  On 2/22/2025 at 12:54 PM, RawDog said:

The weight has a returning national champ and a returning finalist who beat Spencer Lee. I don't think the weight is weak. Might not be very deep but the top 2 are pretty legit.

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Hey, I'm not calling ANY National Title easy...to be clear. I'm just responding to the argument, both can't be true. You can't say he hasn't won anything and until then it doesn't mean anything(at the College level) and THEN say 'but if he does win, 125 was really weak.' Which isn't a quote, I'm paraphrasing. 

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Welcome back to the Luke is an NCAA contender era!  Of course, there are probably 15 or so guys who are contenders., but he is as likely as any.  Seeding and tourney at 125 is going to be wild - a lot of volatility.

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  On 3/9/2025 at 3:39 PM, Elevator said:

Welcome back to the Luke is an NCAA contender era!  Of course, there are probably 15 or so guys who are contenders., but he is as likely as any.  Seeding and tourney at 125 is going to be wild - a lot of volatility.

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if Luke wins Big 10s how high could he be seeded with 2 losses?

Posted
  On 3/9/2025 at 3:39 PM, Elevator said:

Welcome back to the Luke is an NCAA contender era!  Of course, there are probably 15 or so guys who are contenders., but he is as likely as any.  Seeding and tourney at 125 is going to be wild - a lot of volatility.

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I'm really enjoying the "Luke was a contender but now he is not but now he is era"

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On the PSU board there is some speculation that he’ll eventually be a 133.

He was dwarfed by Ramos; unless he starts hitting the weights hard and regularly or gets significantly taller, I don’t see that happening.


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Posted
  On 2/22/2025 at 1:31 AM, 1032004 said:

No, I’ve repeatedly acknowledged that he was not comparable “dominance wise” to Spencer Lee.

He still has a chance to have a better overall career though…

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Big question on him is this: does his mom wear glasses?

” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”.

Posted
  On 2/21/2025 at 11:27 PM, Caveira said:

Fair.  It is weak. And he is no where near as dominant as true freshmen Spencer Lee was.   

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But he did just curb stomp the guy who decked Spencer Lee to end Lee's college career and make his Mom an eyeglass breaking meme. 

Posted
  On 3/9/2025 at 6:21 PM, Pinnacle said:

But he did just curb stomp the guy who decked Spencer Lee to end Lee's college career and make his Mom an eyeglass breaking meme. 

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No where near the same.  He isn’t as dominant as Spencer was.  And he will not be.   Your Iowa hatred clouds your judgement.  

Posted
  On 3/9/2025 at 5:07 PM, Le duke said:

On the PSU board there is some speculation that he’ll eventually be a 133.

He was dwarfed by Ramos; unless he starts hitting the weights hard and regularly or gets significantly taller, I don’t see that happening.


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I agree that is how it looks.  Some guys seem to be naturally more dense or hollow for some reason though.  For example on the other side of the spectrum - old bird bones Deakin

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Posted
  On 3/9/2025 at 8:58 PM, flyingcement said:

I agree that is how it looks.  Some guys seem to be naturally more dense or hollow for some reason though. 

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... looks like he could still make the weight!

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