Jimmy Cinnabon Posted Monday at 01:53 AM Posted Monday at 01:53 AM He has been impressive so far but I can’t see him beating Ferrari, Buchanan or Cardenas. Is he a legit title contender this year?
flyingcement Posted Monday at 02:19 AM Posted Monday at 02:19 AM (edited) As of now he is the heavy favorite and should be expected to get bonus on anyone outside of Buchanan and perhaps Cardenas. Ferrari is petrified of him. Edited Monday at 02:19 AM by flyingcement 1
bnwtwg Posted Monday at 02:42 AM Posted Monday at 02:42 AM (edited) It was the year of our lord 2021 and no 197 had separated from the pack to lead the tribe to the promised land. The false prophet known as Buchanan was the favorite going into the season against the babe swaddled in orange and black freshman cloth. But lo he was defeated many times for the babe fired on all pistols and brought forth a six hunnid sixty five pound deadlift baby. And now the prophecy is doomed to repeat itself for 197 is the forbidden wasteland of unrecognized heavyweight talent. Edited Monday at 02:44 AM by bnwtwg 1 1 1 i am an idiot on the internet
Wrestleknownothing Posted Monday at 03:28 AM Posted Monday at 03:28 AM No #4 ranked wrestler has ever been a title contender. Why start now? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
CHROMEBIRD Posted Monday at 03:55 AM Posted Monday at 03:55 AM 1 hour ago, flyingcement said: As of now he is the heavy favorite and should be expected to get bonus on anyone outside of Buchanan and perhaps Cardenas. Ferrari is petrified of him. I would love to see a Ferrari run into a Barr at Nationals 1
Hammerlock3 Posted Monday at 04:00 AM Posted Monday at 04:00 AM (edited) 5 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: I would love to see a Ferrari run into a Barr at Nationals it'd be dissappointing I think. Ferrari is almost as evasive as J'den Cox, he'd lose a decision and not get his hair messed up. Edited Monday at 04:00 AM by Hammerlock3 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
flyingcement Posted Monday at 04:01 AM Posted Monday at 04:01 AM Just now, Hammerlock3 said: it's be dissappointing I think. Ferrari is almost as evasive as J'den Cox, he'd lose a decision and not get his hair messed up. Barr is smart and will make it obvious that he's being the aggressor if the Bakersfield guy doesn't have plans on wrestling
Hammerlock3 Posted Monday at 04:09 AM Posted Monday at 04:09 AM 5 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Barr is smart and will make it obvious that he's being the aggressor if the Bakersfield guy doesn't have plans on wrestling i'm down for the humiliation too but i doubt it. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
buckshot Posted Monday at 05:56 AM Posted Monday at 05:56 AM The most impressive thing about Barr is his ability to use his brain to perfectly manage a match.
RockLobster Posted Monday at 07:26 AM Posted Monday at 07:26 AM 5 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: He has been impressive so far but I can’t see him beating Ferrari, Buchanan or Cardenas. Is he a legit title contender this year? IMO, Barr is a 'maybe to probably' contender at this point. As opposed to Buchanan (likely), Cardenas (likely), and Ferrari (maybe). I won't rank the others, but you get the idea here.
macwoodfleet Posted Monday at 08:37 AM Posted Monday at 08:37 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, RockLobster said: IMO, Barr is a 'maybe to probably' contender at this point. As opposed to Buchanan (likely), Cardenas (likely), and Ferrari (maybe). I won't rank the others, but you get the idea here. Yeah, history tells us to doubt a superstar freshman upperweight at Penn State. Those guys never make a run, as opposed to upperweights from Iowa and Michigan, who always live up to expectations at nationals. *jerkoff motion* Edited Monday at 08:38 AM by macwoodfleet 3 1
BruceyB Posted Monday at 08:45 AM Posted Monday at 08:45 AM 7 minutes ago, macwoodfleet said: *jerkoff motion* We know who you ride. 1
macwoodfleet Posted Monday at 08:48 AM Posted Monday at 08:48 AM 2 minutes ago, BruceyB said: We know who you ride. Calling a Penn State upperweight who has quality wins and looks fantastic "maybe a contender" is an opinion someone should only have if they've been in a coma for the last 15 years. 1
BruceyB Posted Monday at 09:02 AM Posted Monday at 09:02 AM You're just in a rush. Barr may very well be a legitimate contender, but until he beats another contender, it's fair to call him a "maybe contender." Lilledahl was being credited as a contender and just lost to Dean who is a mid-ranked 125. We don't yet know where Barr is in comparison to Buchanon, Cardenas, or Ferrari. He could beat them, or he could be a step behind. We just don't know yet. But if you want to blanket everyone that wrestles for PSU as invincible then go ahead. McIntosh was pretty good, but how many titles did he win? 1 1
okokzach Posted Monday at 10:03 AM Posted Monday at 10:03 AM 1 hour ago, macwoodfleet said: Yeah, history tells us to doubt a superstar freshman upperweight at Penn State. Those guys never make a run, as opposed to upperweights from Iowa and Michigan, who always live up to expectations at nationals. *jerkoff motion* 1 hour ago, macwoodfleet said: Calling a Penn State upperweight who has quality wins and looks fantastic "maybe a contender" is an opinion someone should only have if they've been in a coma for the last 15 years. Carter? Bo? Which one of you is this
1032004 Posted Monday at 11:53 AM Posted Monday at 11:53 AM 2 hours ago, BruceyB said: You're just in a rush. Barr may very well be a legitimate contender, but until he beats another contender, it's fair to call him a "maybe contender." Lilledahl was being credited as a contender and just lost to Dean who is a mid-ranked 125. We don't yet know where Barr is in comparison to Buchanon, Cardenas, or Ferrari. He could beat them, or he could be a step behind. We just don't know yet. But if you want to blanket everyone that wrestles for PSU as invincible then go ahead. McIntosh was pretty good, but how many titles did he win? Both 197 and 125 have a lot of parity. Barr beat Beard who beat Cardenas last year. Peterson had a win over Ramos last year. 1
1032004 Posted Monday at 01:04 PM Posted Monday at 01:04 PM 1 minute ago, Pinnacle said: What are Cardenas big wins? His best win this year is Salazar. Last year he finished fourth and Buchanan is the only guy that placed higher than him that didn’t graduate.
Pinnacle Posted Monday at 01:12 PM Posted Monday at 01:12 PM 7 minutes ago, 1032004 said: His best win this year is Salazar. Last year he finished fourth and Buchanan is the only guy that placed higher than him that didn’t graduate. I saw some of his results and while transitives don't always apply in wrestling I think Barr would wear him out.
1032004 Posted Monday at 01:17 PM Posted Monday at 01:17 PM 2 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: I saw some of his results and while transitives don't always apply in wrestling I think Barr would wear him out. I have no idea who wins but I know Barr is in the conversation. He has wins over 2 of last year’s AA’s in a weight that doesn’t have clear separation.
666 Posted Monday at 01:34 PM Posted Monday at 01:34 PM 11 hours ago, flyingcement said: Ferrari is petrified of him. Really?
JimmyCinnabon Posted Monday at 01:38 PM Posted Monday at 01:38 PM You might not see him being able to beat those guys but he can see himself beating those guys. Of course he is a legit contender. 197lbs doesn't have a returning champ.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted Monday at 01:39 PM Author Posted Monday at 01:39 PM Just now, JimmyCinnabon said: You might not see him being able to beat those guys but he can see himself beating those guys. Of course he is a legit contender. 197lbs doesn't have a returning champ. Ferrari is a returning champ at the weight, just not from last year.
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