Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 27 Posted January 27 He has been impressive so far but I can’t see him beating Ferrari, Buchanan or Cardenas. Is he a legit title contender this year?
flyingcement Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) As of now he is the heavy favorite and should be expected to get bonus on anyone outside of Buchanan and perhaps Cardenas. Ferrari is petrified of him. Edited January 27 by flyingcement 1
bnwtwg Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) It was the year of our lord 2021 and no 197 had separated from the pack to lead the tribe to the promised land. The false prophet known as Buchanan was the favorite going into the season against the babe swaddled in orange and black freshman cloth. But lo he was defeated many times for the babe fired on all pistols and brought forth a six hunnid sixty five pound deadlift baby. And now the prophecy is doomed to repeat itself for 197 is the forbidden wasteland of unrecognized heavyweight talent. Edited January 27 by bnwtwg 1 1 1 i am an idiot on the internet
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 27 Posted January 27 No #4 ranked wrestler has ever been a title contender. Why start now? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
CHROMEBIRD Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 2:19 AM, flyingcement said: As of now he is the heavy favorite and should be expected to get bonus on anyone outside of Buchanan and perhaps Cardenas. Ferrari is petrified of him. Expand I would love to see a Ferrari run into a Barr at Nationals 1
Hammerlock3 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) On 1/27/2025 at 3:55 AM, CHROMEBIRD said: I would love to see a Ferrari run into a Barr at Nationals Expand it'd be dissappointing I think. Ferrari is almost as evasive as J'den Cox, he'd lose a decision and not get his hair messed up. Edited January 27 by Hammerlock3 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
flyingcement Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 4:00 AM, Hammerlock3 said: it's be dissappointing I think. Ferrari is almost as evasive as J'den Cox, he'd lose a decision and not get his hair messed up. Expand Barr is smart and will make it obvious that he's being the aggressor if the Bakersfield guy doesn't have plans on wrestling
Hammerlock3 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 4:01 AM, flyingcement said: Barr is smart and will make it obvious that he's being the aggressor if the Bakersfield guy doesn't have plans on wrestling Expand i'm down for the humiliation too but i doubt it. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
buckshot Posted January 27 Posted January 27 The most impressive thing about Barr is his ability to use his brain to perfectly manage a match.
RockLobster Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 1:53 AM, Jimmy Cinnabon said: He has been impressive so far but I can’t see him beating Ferrari, Buchanan or Cardenas. Is he a legit title contender this year? Expand IMO, Barr is a 'maybe to probably' contender at this point. As opposed to Buchanan (likely), Cardenas (likely), and Ferrari (maybe). I won't rank the others, but you get the idea here.
macwoodfleet Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) On 1/27/2025 at 7:26 AM, RockLobster said: IMO, Barr is a 'maybe to probably' contender at this point. As opposed to Buchanan (likely), Cardenas (likely), and Ferrari (maybe). I won't rank the others, but you get the idea here. Expand Yeah, history tells us to doubt a superstar freshman upperweight at Penn State. Those guys never make a run, as opposed to upperweights from Iowa and Michigan, who always live up to expectations at nationals. *jerkoff motion* Edited January 27 by macwoodfleet 3 1
BruceyB Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 8:37 AM, macwoodfleet said: *jerkoff motion* Expand We know who you ride. 1
macwoodfleet Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 8:45 AM, BruceyB said: We know who you ride. Expand Calling a Penn State upperweight who has quality wins and looks fantastic "maybe a contender" is an opinion someone should only have if they've been in a coma for the last 15 years. 1
BruceyB Posted January 27 Posted January 27 You're just in a rush. Barr may very well be a legitimate contender, but until he beats another contender, it's fair to call him a "maybe contender." Lilledahl was being credited as a contender and just lost to Dean who is a mid-ranked 125. We don't yet know where Barr is in comparison to Buchanon, Cardenas, or Ferrari. He could beat them, or he could be a step behind. We just don't know yet. But if you want to blanket everyone that wrestles for PSU as invincible then go ahead. McIntosh was pretty good, but how many titles did he win? 1 1
okokzach Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 8:37 AM, macwoodfleet said: Yeah, history tells us to doubt a superstar freshman upperweight at Penn State. Those guys never make a run, as opposed to upperweights from Iowa and Michigan, who always live up to expectations at nationals. *jerkoff motion* Expand On 1/27/2025 at 8:48 AM, macwoodfleet said: Calling a Penn State upperweight who has quality wins and looks fantastic "maybe a contender" is an opinion someone should only have if they've been in a coma for the last 15 years. Expand Carter? Bo? Which one of you is this
1032004 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 9:02 AM, BruceyB said: You're just in a rush. Barr may very well be a legitimate contender, but until he beats another contender, it's fair to call him a "maybe contender." Lilledahl was being credited as a contender and just lost to Dean who is a mid-ranked 125. We don't yet know where Barr is in comparison to Buchanon, Cardenas, or Ferrari. He could beat them, or he could be a step behind. We just don't know yet. But if you want to blanket everyone that wrestles for PSU as invincible then go ahead. McIntosh was pretty good, but how many titles did he win? Expand Both 197 and 125 have a lot of parity. Barr beat Beard who beat Cardenas last year. Peterson had a win over Ramos last year. 1
1032004 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 12:51 PM, Pinnacle said: What are Cardenas big wins? Expand His best win this year is Salazar. Last year he finished fourth and Buchanan is the only guy that placed higher than him that didn’t graduate.
Pinnacle Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 1:04 PM, 1032004 said: His best win this year is Salazar. Last year he finished fourth and Buchanan is the only guy that placed higher than him that didn’t graduate. Expand I saw some of his results and while transitives don't always apply in wrestling I think Barr would wear him out.
1032004 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 1:12 PM, Pinnacle said: I saw some of his results and while transitives don't always apply in wrestling I think Barr would wear him out. Expand I have no idea who wins but I know Barr is in the conversation. He has wins over 2 of last year’s AA’s in a weight that doesn’t have clear separation.
Boring Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 2:19 AM, flyingcement said: Ferrari is petrified of him. Expand Really?
JimmyCinnabon Posted January 27 Posted January 27 You might not see him being able to beat those guys but he can see himself beating those guys. Of course he is a legit contender. 197lbs doesn't have a returning champ.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 27 Author Posted January 27 On 1/27/2025 at 1:38 PM, JimmyCinnabon said: You might not see him being able to beat those guys but he can see himself beating those guys. Of course he is a legit contender. 197lbs doesn't have a returning champ. Expand Ferrari is a returning champ at the weight, just not from last year.
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