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1. Please someone explain how these two meme coins issued by the Trumps are not a massive grift.

2. Please also explain how they are not a national security risk in that they create an open avenue to bribe and influence the President.

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Just another money making scheme. There are suckers born every day. Plenty of idiots out there will gladly give the Trumps their hard-earned money. 

It's also extremely obvious by now that Trump will give power to those that support him, and weaponize the government against those that oppose him. 

We're definitely moving toward something similar to Stalin, Hitler, Kim Jong Un, etc. .

Interesting that he had Zuckerberg, Musk and Bezos all sitting in the front row during his inauguration. Can you say oligarchy? 

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1 hour ago, headshuck said:

I’d rather see them up front where we can keep an eye on them vs slithering around behind the scenes like Soros, Schwab or Gates or Bidens.

FIFY

mspart

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Posted
2 hours ago, headshuck said:

I’d rather see them up front where we can keep an eye on them vs slithering around behind the scenes like Soros, Schwab or Gates.

Are purchases of these coins public?

Posted
2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

1. Please someone explain how these two meme coins issued by the Trumps are not a massive grift.

2. Please also explain how they are not a national security risk in that they create an open avenue to bribe and influence the President.

I hate the whole coin, watch, shoes, Huckabee book etc things but ...

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Posted
2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

1. Please someone explain how these two meme coins issued by the Trumps are not a massive grift.

2. Please also explain how they are not a national security risk in that they create an open avenue to bribe and influence the President.

My favorite quote on this, “I wouldn’t call this a scam. Because to me, anytime someone calls something a scam, there’s an element of deception. There’s no deception here.” -Omid Malekan

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His whole presidency is a grift, just like last time.  The wins for his working class constituents wil be primarily cultural, not economic, just like last time.  They seem happy with this so...🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Posted
3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

1. Please someone explain how these two meme coins issued by the Trumps are not a massive grift.

2. Please also explain how they are not a national security risk in that they create an open avenue to bribe and influence the President.

How much are the coins.

Posted
3 hours ago, headshuck said:

I’d rather see them up front where we can keep an eye on them vs slithering around behind the scenes like Soros, Schwab or Gates.

Yes; better to just give the oligarchs direct power where they can directly give themselves financial favors (e.g. Musk being put in charge of DOGE). 

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

How long are these folks going to keep crying?

Four years seems to be the popular space.  I feel like we’ve seen this before recently. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

His whole presidency is a grift, just like last time.  The wins for his working class constituents wil be primarily cultural, not economic, just like last time.  They seem happy with this so...🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Trump won because people were better off 4 years ago than they were under Biden. 

Trump won in 2016 because the people were tired of Obama and his version of "this is as good as it is gonna get" and wanted better.   Trump gave better.   Better economy, better tax structure, better business environment.  

That is what MAGA was about.   It was a repudiation of Obama and his economic thinking. 

You might argue this and that is fair.   But that is what happened. 

mspart

Posted
5 minutes ago, mspart said:

Trump won because people were better off 4 years ago than they were under Biden. 

Trump won in 2016 because the people were tired of Obama and his version of "this is as good as it is gonna get" and wanted better.   Trump gave better.   Better economy, better tax structure, better business environment.  

That is what MAGA was about.   It was a repudiation of Obama and his economic thinking. 

You might argue this and that is fair.   But that is what happened. 

mspart

It seems pretty simple, doesn’t it.  

Posted
1 hour ago, red viking said:

Yes; better to just give the oligarchs direct power where they can directly give themselves financial favors (e.g. Musk being put in charge of DOGE). 

Which billionaire oligarchs are cool vs not cool.  One.  George soros got the pres medal of freedom recently.  Is he cool.   Here is one of my fav billionaires.  Jb pritzker.   Is he cool?  Does pritzker ever come up in the pay his fair share of taxes rhetoric y’all really like to spout.   

Illinois Governor Candidate Removed Mansion's Toilets To Dodge Taxes, Report Finds

And then in October 2015, according to a report by Cook County Inspector General Patrick Blanchard, the Pritzkers had five toilets removed from the second house so that it would be classified as "uninhabitable" in a property tax appeal filed by the Pritzkers. Cook County assesses vacant properties at 10 percent of the market value.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654201077/illinois-gov-candidate-removed-mansions-toilets-to-dodge-taxes-report-finds

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27 minutes ago, mspart said:

Trump won because people were better off 4 years ago than they were under Biden. 

Trump won in 2016 because the people were tired of Obama and his version of "this is as good as it is gonna get" and wanted better.   Trump gave better.   Better economy, better tax structure, better business environment.  

That is what MAGA was about.   It was a repudiation of Obama and his economic thinking. 

You might argue this and that is fair.   But that is what happened. 

mspart

4 years ago our country was shut down and we were dying by the thousands on a daily basis from a poorly handled disease, much moreso than in all other developed nations.  It's weird when people go to the "4 years ago argument" without actually acknowledging what was happening 4 years ago.

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42 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Which billionaire oligarchs are cool vs not cool.  One.  George soros got the pres medal of freedom recently.  Is he cool.   Here is one of my fav billionaires.  Jb pritzker.   Is he cool?  Does pritzker ever come up in the pay his fair share of taxes rhetoric y’all really like to spout.   

Illinois Governor Candidate Removed Mansion's Toilets To Dodge Taxes, Report Finds

And then in October 2015, according to a report by Cook County Inspector General Patrick Blanchard, the Pritzkers had five toilets removed from the second house so that it would be classified as "uninhabitable" in a property tax appeal filed by the Pritzkers. Cook County assesses vacant properties at 10 percent of the market value.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654201077/illinois-gov-candidate-removed-mansions-toilets-to-dodge-taxes-report-finds

Ouch!!!   Stinking tax dodger!

mspart

Posted
30 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

4 years ago our country was shut down and we were dying by the thousands on a daily basis from a poorly handled disease, much moreso than in all other developed nations.  It's weird when people go to the "4 years ago argument" without actually acknowledging what was happening 4 years ago.

Yes that did happen.   But before that happened, we had a lot of economic activity that was positive.   Plus you live in FL where the restrictions were lifted quickly and didn't feel the full weight of the lock downs.   Here in WA we lived in lock down mode for over a year and a half. 

mspart

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Posted
2 minutes ago, mspart said:

Yes that did happen.   But before that happened, we had a lot of economic activity that was positive.   Plus you live in FL where the restrictions were lifted quickly and didn't feel the full weight of the lock downs.   Here in WA we lived in lock down mode for over a year and a half. 

mspart

So how far back are we going to be when it's better off?  The majority of economic issues that Biden dealt with were supply-chain related issues that all stemmed from COVID, but he and the Dems didn't get a break for that.  Egg price and poultry prices are about to go up again as Georgia has shut down almost all production due to bird flue related issues, are you going to stick those raised prices on Trump, or are we going to show some nuance of thought now and realize that most of those issues are far outside of what the president has power to actually directly affect?

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