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12 hours ago, Caveira said:

Read on the hawk board that he has to maintain a healthy 6000 calorie diet.  Seems very hard to do.   Anyone on here have any experience with that?  I googled it and it seems harder than being a d1 wrestler (joking)…..    

how hard is it to exercise / train eating that much?   

You can clear 6,000 calories with a couple of Costco pizzas. Simple. 

Posted
11 hours ago, ionel said:

I remember going down on the bus to St Louis for the Mizzu dual.   After the win went to a restaurant.  Sitting at table next to Lockhart.  One of the other fans there challenge him to eat two plates of t-bone, bake potatoe etc.  He did no problem.  

Remember another time went down, Mizzu won, the reservation was cancelled, we all went home hungry.  

And then won a coin flip after eating all that.  Fantastic athlete.  Most gifted coin flip winner I have ever seen.

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11 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Meal 1: Breakfast (1,200-1,500 calories)

  • Oatmeal with Nut Butter and Seeds
    • 1 cup rolled oats (300 calories)
    • 2 tablespoons peanut or almond butter (200 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)
    • 1/4 cup hemp seeds (180 calories)
    • 1 banana (100 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon maple syrup (100 calories)
    • 1 cup almond milk or oat milk (60 calories)
    • 1 scoop vegan protein powder mixed into oatmeal (100 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 2: Snack (800-1,000 calories)

  • Smoothie
    • 1 cup coconut milk (150 calories)
    • 1 scoop vegan protein powder (100 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil (120 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon peanut butter (100 calories)
    • 1 banana (100 calories)
    • 1/2 cup frozen mixed berries (50 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon spirulina powder (40 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

Meal 3: Lunch (1,200-1,500 calories)

  • Lentil and Quinoa Salad
    • 1 cup cooked lentils (230 calories)
    • 1 cup cooked quinoa (220 calories)
    • 1/2 cup avocado (120 calories)
    • 1/4 cup sunflower seeds (200 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon olive oil (120 calories)
    • 1 cup roasted veggies (e.g., sweet potato, zucchini) (150 calories)
    • 2 tablespoons tahini dressing (180 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 4: Snack (800-1,000 calories)

  • Nut and Dried Fruit Mix
    • 1/4 cup almonds (200 calories)
    • 1/4 cup cashews (200 calories)
    • 1/4 cup pumpkin seeds (180 calories)
    • 1/4 cup dried apricots (100 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon coconut flakes (100 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon olive oil (120 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

Meal 5: Dinner (1,200-1,500 calories)

  • Vegan Stir-Fry with Tofu and Brown Rice
    • 1 block firm tofu (350 calories)
    • 1 cup cooked brown rice (215 calories)
    • 2 tablespoons sesame oil (240 calories)
    • 1 cup broccoli (55 calories)
    • 1/2 cup bell peppers (20 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon soy sauce (10 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon ginger and garlic paste (10 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon sesame seeds (50 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 6: Late-night Snack (800-1,000 calories)

  • Vegan Protein Pudding
    • 1 cup full-fat coconut yogurt (300 calories)
    • 2 tablespoons almond butter (200 calories)
    • 1 scoop vegan protein powder (100 calories)
    • 2 tablespoons cacao powder (50 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon maple syrup (100 calories)
    • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories


Daily Totals:

  • Calories: 6,000-6,200
  • Protein: Around 160-180 grams
  • Fats: Around 200-220 grams
  • Carbs: Around 600-650 grams

This plan is designed to provide a balance of protein, healthy fats, and complex carbohydrates. You can adjust portions based on your specific caloric needs and preferences. Make sure to drink plenty of water and consider adding supplements such as B12, Vitamin D, and Omega-3s (from algae oil) if needed.

If you want more variety, you can swap some meals with similar-calorie options (e.g., beans, chickpeas, tempeh, or other legumes) to maintain nutritional balance.

This would be a lot easier to do without it being vegan.  Not making a value judgement.

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Posted
12 hours ago, Caveira said:

Read on the hawk board that he has to maintain a healthy 6000 calorie diet.  Seems very hard to do.   Anyone on here have any experience with that?  I googled it and it seems harder than being a d1 wrestler (joking)…..    

how hard is it to exercise / train eating that much?   

Do you have a link?

Posted
13 hours ago, Idaho said:

43 medium potatoes is approximately 6k calories.... so more like a garden than acres. 

Medium? Is that what they called 20's or 30's?

Posted
5 hours ago, MNRodent said:

6000 calories a day isn't that tough, but 6000 healthy calories is the tricky part.  Probably involves a lot of high calorie protein shakes.

I've never had to bump up like that, but with all the sports nutrition and supplements out there these days my feeling is that packing on 6k of healthy cals/day probably isn't as tough as going the other way with a hard cut. Definitely more pleasant than whatever McD had to go through to make weight. Football and basketball players bulk up like that all the time, so I assume the training staff at Iowa have it down to a science. 

Big question is how the Kooter handles the added mass. He didn't exactly have the best gas tank to begin with...

Posted
18 hours ago, Caveira said:

Read on the hawk board that he has to maintain a healthy 6000 calorie diet.  Seems very hard to do.   Anyone on here have any experience with that?  I googled it and it seems harder than being a d1 wrestler (joking)…..    

how hard is it to exercise / train eating that much?   

The most I've ever tracked and routinely consumed was about 4800 and I had to train after my first meal, or I would feel too sluggish, and my training was just lifting. I imagine it would be extremely difficult to eat 6k calories of relatively whole food (I'm sure he's using some olive oil with each meal and some dextrose drink after each workout which could probably get you between 1k-1500 liquid calories a day). It's sort of his job and I'm sure they have great nutritionists to help but between class and workouts It would be the rest of his day that he is dedicating to eating/prepping food because 5k calories of relatively whole foods is a beast to get down.

Posted
1 hour ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

I've never had to bump up like that, but with all the sports nutrition and supplements out there these days my feeling is that packing on 6k of healthy cals/day probably isn't as tough as going the other way with a hard cut. Definitely more pleasant than whatever McD had to go through to make weight. Football and basketball players bulk up like that all the time, so I assume the training staff at Iowa have it down to a science. 

Big question is how the Kooter handles the added mass. He didn't exactly have the best gas tank to begin with...

I thought he had a GREAT gas tank starting with what he did to Ukraine in his U20 title run semi.  He wasn't bad at U20 this year either.  I agree that he didn't look good in his first NCAA match this year.

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Posted
7 hours ago, MNRodent said:

6000 calories a day isn't that tough, but 6000 healthy calories is the tricky part.  Probably involves a lot of high calorie protein shakes.

Yeah...I don't think anyone would have any trouble if they were JUST trying to eat 6,000 calories a day. 

I remember Hilger was Wrestling at...~215 or so and went on a ~12,000 calorie a day diet...but it was JUST to gain weight. He added ~40 pounds, but I don't know how much of it was good weight. 


Also, Keuter is still going back to Football, right? I thought the plan was for him to commit this year to Wrestling and then...he'd be back on the FB team next year. So either way, he's gotta get up to ~240-250. I don't even recall what he plays(I thought he was an Edge/DE/LB) but IF his eventual goal is to make a career out of playing FB, he's gonna have to pack that weight on.


I also remember a TV show, it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Really funny show, but one of the guys on the show gets really fat on year because he noticed that on most shows that are successful, everyone gets better looking as they get private chefs and stuff like that. So he wanted to go the other way. He said it was miserable. But again, he was doing things like leaving out a quarter or two of ice cream in the morning and then drinking it later in the day. Just getting fat. 

 

A vegan adding 6000 calories? The toughest part would be preparing all the meals. Then it'd be just like the OP said, walking around and not feeling like you've got a growth in your stomach. 

Posted
2 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Apparently a jar of peanut butter is about 3,000 calories.  I've been known to polish one off in a sitting with a spoon

Easy...especially if you add a quart of high protein healthy ice cream. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

I've never had to bump up like that, but with all the sports nutrition and supplements out there these days my feeling is that packing on 6k of healthy cals/day probably isn't as tough as going the other way with a hard cut. Definitely more pleasant than whatever McD had to go through to make weight. Football and basketball players bulk up like that all the time, so I assume the training staff at Iowa have it down to a science. 

Big question is how the Kooter handles the added mass. He didn't exactly have the best gas tank to begin with...

I wasn’t very good, but in college I weighed about 120 wrestling 125 and tried eating a ton of calories and drinking weight gainer shakes (where basically one scoop of the stuff took up an entire drink mixer).  IMO that was more difficult than cutting, although I never had a “hard” cut in HS.  I also felt sluggish and ultimately stopped doing it because I felt I could wrestle better just at my natural weight. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I wasn’t very good, but in college I weighed about 120 wrestling 125 and tried eating a ton of calories and drinking weight gainer shakes (where basically one scoop of the stuff took up an entire drink mixer).  IMO that was more difficult than cutting, although I never had a “hard” cut in HS.  I also felt sluggish and ultimately stopped doing it because I felt I could wrestle better just at my natural weight. 

Ya that’s what I was thinking as to why it is hard.   Now I didn’t have it as easy (cutting lol).  I cut to 126 fr year of college from a 130/125 sr year.   Then i had a hard time making 134 so year… I can’t imagine putting that food in my body “and” training.  

Posted
1 hour ago, MNRodent said:

About 75 hardboiled eggs will get you around 6,000 calories of protein.  Cool Hand Luke was a wussy for stopping at 50.

75 hard boiled eggs will get you a lot of things...

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Posted
15 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Yeah...I don't think anyone would have any trouble if they were JUST trying to eat 6,000 calories a day. 

I remember Hilger was Wrestling at...~215 or so and went on a ~12,000 calorie a day diet...but it was JUST to gain weight. He added ~40 pounds, but I don't know how much of it was good weight. 


Also, Keuter is still going back to Football, right? I thought the plan was for him to commit this year to Wrestling and then...he'd be back on the FB team next year. So either way, he's gotta get up to ~240-250. I don't even recall what he plays(I thought he was an Edge/DE/LB) but IF his eventual goal is to make a career out of playing FB, he's gonna have to pack that weight on.


I also remember a TV show, it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Really funny show, but one of the guys on the show gets really fat on year because he noticed that on most shows that are successful, everyone gets better looking as they get private chefs and stuff like that. So he wanted to go the other way. He said it was miserable. But again, he was doing things like leaving out a quarter or two of ice cream in the morning and then drinking it later in the day. Just getting fat. 

 

A vegan adding 6000 calories? The toughest part would be preparing all the meals. Then it'd be just like the OP said, walking around and not feeling like you've got a growth in your stomach. 

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Posted
20 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Apparently a jar of peanut butter is about 3,000 calories.  I've been known to polish one off in a sitting with a spoon

This is a very important question. I need you to think carefully before you answer. Our entire internet message board friendship is riding on your reply.

Creamy or chunky?

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