Ben keuter diet.

[Caveira]

Read on the hawk board that he has to maintain a healthy 6000 calorie diet.  Seems very hard to do.   Anyone on here have any experience with that?  I googled it and it seems harder than being a d1 wrestler (joking)…..    

how hard is it to exercise / train eating that much?   

[Le duke]

Plenty of dudes half his size can do it. No reason he can’t.


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[Hammerlock3]

5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Read on the hawk board that he has to maintain a healthy 6000 calorie diet.  Seems very hard to do.   Anyone on here have any experience with that?  I googled it and it seems harder than being a d1 wrestler (joking)…..    

how hard is it to exercise / train eating that much?   

keep in mind how much they're training, and the fact that he's obviously a huge dude with a fast metabolism, he might burn 4000 without working out.

[Caveira]

15 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Plenty of dudes half his size can do it. No reason he can’t.


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I thought it was hard.  Just reading it.  Do you have experience with it ?

[flyingcement]

Meal 1: Breakfast (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Oatmeal with Nut Butter and Seeds
  • 1 cup rolled oats (300 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons peanut or almond butter (200 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)
  • 1/4 cup hemp seeds (180 calories)
  • 1 banana (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon maple syrup (100 calories)
  • 1 cup almond milk or oat milk (60 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder mixed into oatmeal (100 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 2: Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Smoothie
  • 1 cup coconut milk (150 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil (120 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon peanut butter (100 calories)
  • 1 banana (100 calories)
  • 1/2 cup frozen mixed berries (50 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon spirulina powder (40 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

Meal 3: Lunch (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Lentil and Quinoa Salad
  • 1 cup cooked lentils (230 calories)
  • 1 cup cooked quinoa (220 calories)
  • 1/2 cup avocado (120 calories)
  • 1/4 cup sunflower seeds (200 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon olive oil (120 calories)
  • 1 cup roasted veggies (e.g., sweet potato, zucchini) (150 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons tahini dressing (180 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 4: Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Nut and Dried Fruit Mix
  • 1/4 cup almonds (200 calories)
  • 1/4 cup cashews (200 calories)
  • 1/4 cup pumpkin seeds (180 calories)
  • 1/4 cup dried apricots (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon coconut flakes (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon olive oil (120 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

Meal 5: Dinner (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Vegan Stir-Fry with Tofu and Brown Rice
  • 1 block firm tofu (350 calories)
  • 1 cup cooked brown rice (215 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons sesame oil (240 calories)
  • 1 cup broccoli (55 calories)
  • 1/2 cup bell peppers (20 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon soy sauce (10 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon ginger and garlic paste (10 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon sesame seeds (50 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 6: Late-night Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Vegan Protein Pudding
  • 1 cup full-fat coconut yogurt (300 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons almond butter (200 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder (100 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons cacao powder (50 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon maple syrup (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

---

Daily Totals:

• Calories: 6,000-6,200
• Protein: Around 160-180 grams
• Fats: Around 200-220 grams
• Carbs: Around 600-650 grams

This plan is designed to provide a balance of protein, healthy fats, and complex carbohydrates. You can adjust portions based on your specific caloric needs and preferences. Make sure to drink plenty of water and consider adding supplements such as B12, Vitamin D, and Omega-3s (from algae oil) if needed.

If you want more variety, you can swap some meals with similar-calorie options (e.g., beans, chickpeas, tempeh, or other legumes) to maintain nutritional balance.

[MPhillips]

26 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I thought it was hard.  Just reading it.

Nothing seems hard to Le Duke, he's a PSU fan...

[ionel]

I remember going down on the bus to St Louis for the Mizzu dual.   After the win went to a restaurant.  Sitting at table next to Lockhart.  One of the other fans there challenge him to eat two plates of t-bone, bake potatoe etc.  He did no problem.  

Remember another time went down, Mizzu won, the reservation was cancelled, we all went home hungry.  

[Caveira]

31 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Meal 1: Breakfast (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Oatmeal with Nut Butter and Seeds
  • 1 cup rolled oats (300 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons peanut or almond butter (200 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)
  • 1/4 cup hemp seeds (180 calories)
  • 1 banana (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon maple syrup (100 calories)
  • 1 cup almond milk or oat milk (60 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder mixed into oatmeal (100 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 2: Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Smoothie
  • 1 cup coconut milk (150 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil (120 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon peanut butter (100 calories)
  • 1 banana (100 calories)
  • 1/2 cup frozen mixed berries (50 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon spirulina powder (40 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

Meal 3: Lunch (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Lentil and Quinoa Salad
  • 1 cup cooked lentils (230 calories)
  • 1 cup cooked quinoa (220 calories)
  • 1/2 cup avocado (120 calories)
  • 1/4 cup sunflower seeds (200 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon olive oil (120 calories)
  • 1 cup roasted veggies (e.g., sweet potato, zucchini) (150 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons tahini dressing (180 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 4: Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Nut and Dried Fruit Mix
  • 1/4 cup almonds (200 calories)
  • 1/4 cup cashews (200 calories)
  • 1/4 cup pumpkin seeds (180 calories)
  • 1/4 cup dried apricots (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon coconut flakes (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon olive oil (120 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

Meal 5: Dinner (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Vegan Stir-Fry with Tofu and Brown Rice
  • 1 block firm tofu (350 calories)
  • 1 cup cooked brown rice (215 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons sesame oil (240 calories)
  • 1 cup broccoli (55 calories)
  • 1/2 cup bell peppers (20 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon soy sauce (10 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon ginger and garlic paste (10 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon sesame seeds (50 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 6: Late-night Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Vegan Protein Pudding
  • 1 cup full-fat coconut yogurt (300 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons almond butter (200 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder (100 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons cacao powder (50 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon maple syrup (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

---

Daily Totals:

• Calories: 6,000-6,200
• Protein: Around 160-180 grams
• Fats: Around 200-220 grams
• Carbs: Around 600-650 grams

This plan is designed to provide a balance of protein, healthy fats, and complex carbohydrates. You can adjust portions based on your specific caloric needs and preferences. Make sure to drink plenty of water and consider adding supplements such as B12, Vitamin D, and Omega-3s (from algae oil) if needed.

If you want more variety, you can swap some meals with similar-calorie options (e.g., beans, chickpeas, tempeh, or other legumes) to maintain nutritional balance.

Sort of why I asked if anyone on the board had experience or had done it.  Other than le Duke of course…… 
 

on a 8 hour sleep 16 hour awake schedule that’s every two and a half hours.  I had a hard time practicing on a full stomach…. With that said there is at least a 2 hour practice in the afternoon and I bet cardio and or drilling once or twice a day.   At least in d3 it was like that…. I imagine they train much harder in d1 too.   
 

that means your eating semi substantial meals on or near a lot of those practice/workout times.  I would feel bloated …. Although I’m not used to eating that healthy    
 

that …. Not to mention academics is somewhere in there.  Classes etc.  

[flyingcement]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Sort of why I asked if anyone on the board had experience or had done it.  Other than le Duke of course…… 
 

on a 8 hour sleep 16 hour awake schedule that’s every two and a half hours.  I had a hard time practicing on a full stomach…. With that said there is at least a 2 hour practice in the afternoon and I bet cardio and or drilling once or twice a day.   At least in d3 it was like that…. I imagine they train much harder in d1 too.   
 

that means your eating semi substantial meals on or near a lot of those practice/workout times.  I would feel bloated …. Although I’m not used to eating that healthy    
 

that …. Not to mention academics is somewhere in there.  Classes etc.  

I would have a hard time doing it as well.  I have a lot more experience dealing with fasting than forcing myself to overindulge 

[Idaho]

44 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Meal 1: Breakfast (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Oatmeal with Nut Butter and Seeds
  • 1 cup rolled oats (300 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons peanut or almond butter (200 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)
  • 1/4 cup hemp seeds (180 calories)
  • 1 banana (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon maple syrup (100 calories)
  • 1 cup almond milk or oat milk (60 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder mixed into oatmeal (100 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 2: Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Smoothie
  • 1 cup coconut milk (150 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil (120 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon peanut butter (100 calories)
  • 1 banana (100 calories)
  • 1/2 cup frozen mixed berries (50 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon spirulina powder (40 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

Meal 3: Lunch (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Lentil and Quinoa Salad
  • 1 cup cooked lentils (230 calories)
  • 1 cup cooked quinoa (220 calories)
  • 1/2 cup avocado (120 calories)
  • 1/4 cup sunflower seeds (200 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon olive oil (120 calories)
  • 1 cup roasted veggies (e.g., sweet potato, zucchini) (150 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons tahini dressing (180 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 4: Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Nut and Dried Fruit Mix
  • 1/4 cup almonds (200 calories)
  • 1/4 cup cashews (200 calories)
  • 1/4 cup pumpkin seeds (180 calories)
  • 1/4 cup dried apricots (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon coconut flakes (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon olive oil (120 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

Meal 5: Dinner (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Vegan Stir-Fry with Tofu and Brown Rice
  • 1 block firm tofu (350 calories)
  • 1 cup cooked brown rice (215 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons sesame oil (240 calories)
  • 1 cup broccoli (55 calories)
  • 1/2 cup bell peppers (20 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon soy sauce (10 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon ginger and garlic paste (10 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon sesame seeds (50 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 6: Late-night Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Vegan Protein Pudding
  • 1 cup full-fat coconut yogurt (300 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons almond butter (200 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder (100 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons cacao powder (50 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon maple syrup (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

---

Daily Totals:

• Calories: 6,000-6,200
• Protein: Around 160-180 grams
• Fats: Around 200-220 grams
• Carbs: Around 600-650 grams

This plan is designed to provide a balance of protein, healthy fats, and complex carbohydrates. You can adjust portions based on your specific caloric needs and preferences. Make sure to drink plenty of water and consider adding supplements such as B12, Vitamin D, and Omega-3s (from algae oil) if needed.

If you want more variety, you can swap some meals with similar-calorie options (e.g., beans, chickpeas, tempeh, or other legumes) to maintain nutritional balance.

My 6k calories look nothing like this. 

[flyingcement]

3 minutes ago, Idaho said:

My 6k calories look nothing like this. 

I noted the obvious lack of potatoes

[ionel]

14 minutes ago, Idaho said:

My 6k calories look nothing like this. 

How many acres of potatoes does it take to get to 6k? 

[Caveira]

17 minutes ago, Idaho said:

My 6k calories look nothing like this. 

No kidding.  I had 3/4 of a burrito two hours ago and I feel like a baby gorilla lol 

if you even blew a whistle… in a fashion that sounded like wrestling practice…….  Do that near me i could die.   Lol. 

[wrestle87]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Read on the hawk board that he has to maintain a healthy 6000 calorie diet.  Seems very hard to do.   Anyone on here have any experience with that?  I googled it and it seems harder than being a d1 wrestler (joking)…..    

how hard is it to exercise / train eating that much?   

Keuter is a classic heavy tweener, he has to push calories because being 215 is a liability at HWT. 

Tervel gave a great interview about this back in the day, he was a 220-30 tweener kind guy and really put on some mass after missing out on the olympics in '08. It immediately helped, but was quite onerous for him.

Powerlifters, Strongmen etc also give major insight into what this is like.  If you're REALLY putting in the time to be hwt competitive, eating is a full time job, and becomes pretty unpleasant.

[Idaho]

9 minutes ago, ionel said:

How many acres of potatoes does it take to get to 6k? 

43 medium potatoes is approximately 6k calories.... so more like a garden than acres. 

[ionel]

8 minutes ago, Idaho said:

43 medium potatoes is approximately 6k calories.... so more like a garden than acres. 

Can you eat 43 potatoes a day for 7 days straight?  If you add butter can you get it down to 40 plus sour cream maybe 35?  

[Gus]

1 hour ago, flyingcement said:

Meal 1: Breakfast (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Oatmeal with Nut Butter and Seeds
  • 1 cup rolled oats (300 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons peanut or almond butter (200 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)
  • 1/4 cup hemp seeds (180 calories)
  • 1 banana (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon maple syrup (100 calories)
  • 1 cup almond milk or oat milk (60 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder mixed into oatmeal (100 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 2: Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Smoothie
  • 1 cup coconut milk (150 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil (120 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon peanut butter (100 calories)
  • 1 banana (100 calories)
  • 1/2 cup frozen mixed berries (50 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon spirulina powder (40 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

Meal 3: Lunch (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Lentil and Quinoa Salad
  • 1 cup cooked lentils (230 calories)
  • 1 cup cooked quinoa (220 calories)
  • 1/2 cup avocado (120 calories)
  • 1/4 cup sunflower seeds (200 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon olive oil (120 calories)
  • 1 cup roasted veggies (e.g., sweet potato, zucchini) (150 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons tahini dressing (180 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 4: Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Nut and Dried Fruit Mix
  • 1/4 cup almonds (200 calories)
  • 1/4 cup cashews (200 calories)
  • 1/4 cup pumpkin seeds (180 calories)
  • 1/4 cup dried apricots (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon coconut flakes (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon olive oil (120 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

Meal 5: Dinner (1,200-1,500 calories)

• Vegan Stir-Fry with Tofu and Brown Rice
  • 1 block firm tofu (350 calories)
  • 1 cup cooked brown rice (215 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons sesame oil (240 calories)
  • 1 cup broccoli (55 calories)
  • 1/2 cup bell peppers (20 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon soy sauce (10 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon ginger and garlic paste (10 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon sesame seeds (50 calories)

Total: 1,200-1,300 calories

Meal 6: Late-night Snack (800-1,000 calories)

• Vegan Protein Pudding
  • 1 cup full-fat coconut yogurt (300 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons almond butter (200 calories)
  • 1 scoop vegan protein powder (100 calories)
  • 2 tablespoons cacao powder (50 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon maple syrup (100 calories)
  • 1 tablespoon chia seeds (60 calories)

Total: 800-900 calories

---

Daily Totals:

• Calories: 6,000-6,200
• Protein: Around 160-180 grams
• Fats: Around 200-220 grams
• Carbs: Around 600-650 grams

This plan is designed to provide a balance of protein, healthy fats, and complex carbohydrates. You can adjust portions based on your specific caloric needs and preferences. Make sure to drink plenty of water and consider adding supplements such as B12, Vitamin D, and Omega-3s (from algae oil) if needed.

If you want more variety, you can swap some meals with similar-calorie options (e.g., beans, chickpeas, tempeh, or other legumes) to maintain nutritional balance.

Where’s the meat

[Le duke]

Nothing seems hard to Le Duke, he's a PSU fan...

I didn’t say I did it. But hey, you do you, chief.

https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/power-analysis-pogacars-raid-on-the-giro-queen-stage/

For those interested, ol’ boy burned ~7,000cal in 6 hours. Likely consuming 500-600cal, or more, via liquids each hour. Then, his large pre- and post-race meals. For reference, he’s 64kg.


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[boconnell]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

Read on the hawk board that he has to maintain a healthy 6000 calorie diet.  Seems very hard to do.   Anyone on here have any experience with that?  I googled it and it seems harder than being a d1 wrestler (joking)…..    

how hard is it to exercise / train eating that much?   

I do that on days that end in Y.

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, Le duke said:

I didn’t say I did it. But hey, you do you, chief.

https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/power-analysis-pogacars-raid-on-the-giro-queen-stage/

For those interested, ol’ boy burned ~7,000cal in 6 hours. Likely consuming 500-600cal, or more, via liquids each hour. Then, his large pre- and post-race meals. For reference, he’s 64kg.


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Gotta hand it to ya.  

this is totally comparable to the original ask / question of the thread.  Thanks for staying on point.  

[Le duke]

Gotta hand it to ya.  
this is totally comparable to the original ask / question of the thread.  Thanks for staying on point.  

Not sure if sarcasm, but:

There are plenty of stories of elite swimmers eating massive piles of food. Phelps was eating 10,000cal/day during key periods.

https://olympics.com/en/news/michael-phelps-10000-calories-diet-what-the-american-swimmer-ate-while-training-


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[Fletcher]

Breakfast: pint of Cherry Garcia = 1200 calories

Lunch: pint of Chunky Monkey = 1200 calories

Dinner: pint of Milk & Cookies = 1250 calories

Oof, this is harder than I thought...

Edited Tuesday at 03:58 AM by Fletcher

[maligned]

CrossFit Games GOAT, Mat Fraser, had physiological testing done that would show his 5'7", 190lb, frame needed 8000 to 9000 cals to support his two 2 to 2.5-hr intense training sessions per day. He's talked about 500 cals in super-concentrated high-cal juice/sports drinks immediately after each session as being essential for muscular recovery and calorie accumulation. Modern-day wrestlers are doing these same recovery carb cals after weigh-ins and between matches. If Keuter is doing it after lifting and after practice each day, he's down to 5k needed for meals, protein shakes, and snacks.

[bnwtwg]

3 hours ago, MPhillips said:

Nothing seems hard to Le Duke, he's a PSU fan...

72 vo2 doesnt earn itself

[MPhillips]

9 hours ago, Le duke said:

I didn’t say I did it. But hey, you do you, chief.

Apologies at the joke. Wasn't trying to rile you up or get you offended...