ILLINI v. MIZZOU PREDICTIONS

[ILLINIWrestlingBlog]

125. Ramazan Attasauov v. Noah Surtin. To paraphrase what Hiram Roth said to Michael Corleone: If Ramazan shows up at weight, I know we have a 125 pounder. If he doesn't, I know we don't. I expect Riley against Walker based on what the coaches have said. The ILLINI are 0-3 in duals at this weight. File under people grow differently: Caelan Riley beat Missouri's 165er Cameron Steed in the 17u Nationals five years ago at 106 pounds. ILL-0; MIZZ-3.

133. Lucas Byrd v. Kaden Moore. The Tiger is a tough kid, but he medical forfeited his last match at the Tiger Style Invite, then lost to UNC's McGonagle 0-3. Lucas gets the train started, as the ILLINI need to win these lower weights. ILL-3; MIZZ-3. 

141. Danny Pucino v. Josh Edmond. My Upset Special! Edmond won 10-5 in last year's dual, but Pucino is trending up, while Edmond is trending down. ILL-6; MIZZ-3. 

149. Kannon Webster v. Logan Gioffre. What was a pretty close match last season is now a major decision or close to it. ILL-9; MIZZ-3.

157. Jason Kraisser v. James Conway. The Tiger is 0-7 in duals. Make that 0-8. ILL-12; MIZZ-3.

165. Braeden Scoles v. Cam Steed. To me, this is the most intriguing match in the dual. Both are undefeated big-boarder 4x state champion prospects. Scoles is 6-0 and 100% bonus. Steed is 5-0 with 80% bonus. ILL-15; MIZZ-3

174. Danny Braunagel v. Keegan The Tool. I call him "The Tool" because everybody can't like Keegan. That's un-American! Anyway, very close match two years ago at the Tiger Style Invite until late in the third period when Keegan got the pinfall. ILL-15; MIZZ-7.

184. Edmond Ruth v. Colton Hawks. This could be the most exciting match of the dual. Ruth is majoring in Film and loves drama. He's 10-2 in overtime matches in his career. Hawks can shoot from distance but also likes to tie up. Will he tie up with Ruth? Going with clutch Edmond to win. ILL-18; MIZZ-7.

197. Zac Braunagel v. Aeoden Sinclair. This was going to be the headline match but Rocky Elam is reportedly a no show. He didn't wrestle until December last year. Sinclair is another blue chipper, but Zac won Fargo and Pan Ams and all those state championships, too. Plus, he's a handfighting legend. ILL-21; MIZZ-7.

285. Luke Luffman v. Seth Nitzel. I see Nitzel as a smaller version of Zach Elam or Lucas Davison. I think Luuuuke has speed, weight, agility, flexibility and experience advantages. Nitzel may be stronger, but he'll have to prove that on the mat. ILL-24; MIZZ-7.

 

Missouri has real chances to win at 141 (where they're the paper favorite), 165 and 184. If the Tigers win all three, that would make it MIZZ-16, ILL-15. Wrestlestat.com has the Tigers winning 19-13, but that includes Rocky Elam wrestling and Seth Nitzel beating Luke Luffman. On December 7, we are more likely to see the full ILLINI and Missouri lineups at the Cougar Clash. Less than 100 tickets remain for this Dinner/Entertainment/Wrestling event. 

 

 

 

Edited November 20 by ILLINIWrestlingBlog

[MizzouFan01]

Pretty sure it will be Walker and Sinclair. I think Mizzou pulls it out, in a close one. 

[ILLINIWrestlingBlog]

A couple of asides, wrestling fans should follow Edmond Ruth on Instagram. He's doing lots of funny short videos on cutting weight, training partners, etc. He shows his filmmaking prowess, too. One of Edmonds videos has 9.1 million views. A new favorite is the Braeden Scoles Fan Page. I don't know who is behind it (I secretly suspect Kannon Webster), but it is funny as well. 

Of course, the little king of social media is Lucas Byrd. They've been featured on bar stool sports among other places. This account is a trip! His partner and he have almost 400k followers. 

Tickets to the match include a buffet dinner, entertainment (unfortunately no strippers) and a great dual. They are almost sold out. 

 

[KCMO2]

Don't think I'd categorize the Braunagel/O'Toole in '22 as a "very close match" before the fall.  Even if Braunagel fought off the pin it would have been 10-2.

That being said, I don't like the way Mizzou matches up vs Ill, particularly if Surtain and Elam are out.  Flip a coin for this dual.

Edited November 20 by KCMO2

[killdozer]

I have a bit differently

125- Walker over Riley MIZZ-3 ILL-0
133- Byrd Major over Moore ILL-4 MIZZ-3
141- Edmond Over Pucino (Remember his two loses are against a National Champ and 2x AA) Mizz-6 ILL-4
149- Webster over Gioffre Ill-7 MIZZ-6
157- Kraisser over Conway ILL-10 MIZZ-6 (But i think this is a toss up. Conway continues to have brutal schedule. He has beaten people Kraisser has lost to in the past. I would not be surprised if Conway won)
165- Steed over Scoles ILL-10 MIZZ-9 (This is also a toss up)
174- O'Toole Major over Dan Braunagel  MIZZ-13 ILL-10
184- Hawks over Ruth MIZZ-16 ILL-10
197- Zach Braunagel over Sinclair MIZZ-16 ILL-13
285- Luffman over Nitzel MIZZ-16 ILL-16
It will come down to criteria. But because Byrd racks up Points I think Illinois wins on criteria. 

[fatlaz]

Is this televised anywhere?

 

[ILLINIWrestlingBlog]

16 minutes ago, fatlaz said:

Is this televised anywhere?

 

BTN+

[ILLINIWrestlingBlog]

4 hours ago, KCMO2 said:

Don't think I'd categorize the Braunagel/O'Toole in '22 as a "very close match" before the fall.  Even if Braunagel fought off the pin it would have been 10-2.

That being said, I don't like the way Mizzou matches up vs Ill, particularly if Surtain and Elam are out.  Flip a coin for this dual.

I would.

It was 5-2 for The Tool in the middle of the third period with Brawlnagel an inch away from scoring a reversal. That would've made it 5-4. Somehow the Tiger didn't give up the reversal here and secured a cradle:

 

[1032004]

5 hours ago, killdozer said:

I have a bit differently

125- Walker over Riley MIZZ-3 ILL-0
133- Byrd Major over Moore ILL-4 MIZZ-3
141- Edmond Over Pucino (Remember his two loses are against a National Champ and 2x AA) Mizz-6 ILL-4
149- Webster over Gioffre Ill-7 MIZZ-6
157- Kraisser over Conway ILL-10 MIZZ-6 (But i think this is a toss up. Conway continues to have brutal schedule. He has beaten people Kraisser has lost to in the past. I would not be surprised if Conway won)
165- Steed over Scoles ILL-10 MIZZ-9 (This is also a toss up)
174- O'Toole Major over Dan Braunagel  MIZZ-13 ILL-10
184- Hawks over Ruth MIZZ-16 ILL-10
197- Zach Braunagel over Sinclair MIZZ-16 ILL-13
285- Luffman over Nitzel MIZZ-16 ILL-16
It will come down to criteria. But because Byrd racks up Points I think Illinois wins on criteria. 

Agree with this

[1032004]

6 hours ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said:

125. Ramazan Attasauov v. Noah Surtin. To paraphrase what Hiram Roth said to Michael Corleone: If Ramazan shows up at weight, I know we have a 125 pounder. If he doesn't, I know we don't. I expect Riley against Walker based on what the coaches have said.

 

 

What have the coaches said about 125?

[ionel]

125. R Attaboy or other v. Noah Surtin.  I'm surtin this goes Mizzou IL-0; MO-3.

133. The Byrd v. Kaden Moore. Bird by major IL-4; MO-3. 

141.  Puciknow v. Josh Edmond. We don't know for sure but IL-7; MO-3. 

149. The Dictionary v. Logan Gioffre. A major definition. IL-11; MO-3.

157.  Kraisser the Rob Rohn v. James Conway. He might be down early but will pull it out. IL-14; MO-3.

165.  Scoles v. Cam Steed. Gotta be Scoles.  IL-17; MO-3

174.  Brawny1 v. Keegan The Tool. Ok Mizzu has to win something and prob major. IL-17; MO-7.

184. The Destroyer of Worlds v. Colton Hawks. Is there any doubt. IL-20; MO-7.

197. Brawny2 v. Aeoden Sinclair. By major. IL-24; MO-7.

285. Big Luffman v. Seth Nitzel. Big L. IL-27; MO-7.

 

[ILLINIWrestlingBlog]

31 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

What have the coaches said about 125?

My Podcast partner calls ILLINI home meets on BTN+. He talks to the coaches a couple of days before each dual. Based on the lineups the coaches gave him, expect Riley and Walker. 

[Mizzou Fan]

Anyone have any idea when  Surtin and Elam will return to the lineup?

[MPhillips]

14 hours ago, killdozer said:

But because Byrd racks up Points

He doesn't. He's under 35% BP scorer...LIFETIME.

[TexRef]

15 hours ago, killdozer said:

I have a bit differently

125- Walker over Riley MIZZ-3 ILL-0
133- Byrd Major over Moore ILL-4 MIZZ-3
141- Edmond Over Pucino (Remember his two loses are against a National Champ and 2x AA) Mizz-6 ILL-4
149- Webster over Gioffre Ill-7 MIZZ-6
157- Kraisser over Conway ILL-10 MIZZ-6 (But i think this is a toss up. Conway continues to have brutal schedule. He has beaten people Kraisser has lost to in the past. I would not be surprised if Conway won)
165- Steed over Scoles ILL-10 MIZZ-9 (This is also a toss up)
174- O'Toole Major over Dan Braunagel  MIZZ-13 ILL-10
184- Hawks over Ruth MIZZ-16 ILL-10
197- Zach Braunagel over Sinclair MIZZ-16 ILL-13
285- Luffman over Nitzel MIZZ-16 ILL-16
It will come down to criteria. But because Byrd racks up Points I think Illinois wins on criteria. 

I don't see Byrd getting a major over Kade Moore. I am not a fan of Byrd's style, just my tastes. I don't think Moore has been the same since he got stabbed. 

Byrd looks good since his injury and will probably beat Moore. I hope it is close. 

[fatlaz]

I think Elam will be used very judiciously this year.  He is very tall and I would think has a problem staying down at 197.  I've stood next to him and would say he's over 6'4".  I was a little suprised he didn't move up to heavyweight this year.  He might have moved if he would had a magical redshirt year left to gain good weight this year and wrestle heavy next year.  I'm just speculating though, I have no inside information.

[Winners Circle]

125: Walker/Surtin fall over Riley. 6-0 

133: Byrd maj dec. Moore. 6-4 

141: Pucino dec. Edmond. 7-6 

149: Webster maj dec. Gioffre. 11-6 

157: Kraisser fall over Conway. 17-6 

165: Steed maj dec. Scoles. 17-10 

174: KOT maj dec. Braunagel. 17-14 

184: Hawks dec. Ruth 17-17

197: Braunagel maj dec. 21-17 

285: Luffman dec. Nitzel 24-17 

[PencilNeck]

My prediction: This match will be "in tents". 

[bnwtwg]

17 hours ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said:

entertainment (unfortunately no strippers)

That's a net positive. Urbana isn't exactly known for it's fine champagne...

[ionel]

6 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

That's a net positive. Urbana isn't exactly known for it's fine champagne...

... but the match is in Champaign so who knows?

[MPhillips]

29 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

Urbana isn't exactly known for it's fine champagne...

Meaty oker at best..

[bnwtwg]

50 minutes ago, ionel said:

... but the match is in Champaign so who knows?

27 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

Meaty oker at best..

Lotta bovine on the loose at the State Farm but sometimes a fella needs a slumpbuster early in the schedule to gain confidence so I hope the Illini are ready to chase some MUUUU tiger tail tonight

[ionel]

Are weigh-ins before or after dinner?  

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. – The No. 12 Illinois wrestling team is set for its home-opening dual against No. 6 Missouri on Thursday (Nov. 21) in the Lot 31 Stadium Club Tent, with doors opening at 5 p.m., dinner/entertainment beginning at 5:30 p.m. and the dual starting at 7 p.m. CT.

Fans can purchase tickets to the dinner theater experience here.

[RawDog]

Is there a way to watch this? I don't see it on flo

 

[ionel]

1 minute ago, RawDog said:

Is there a way to watch this? I don't see it on flo

 

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