Hammerlock3 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 15 hours ago, TylerDurden said: I have no idea, please detail the HS recruit rankings from every rating services so we all can see the consensus rankings. I'd love to see the names of the 25 guys you're trying to single out as "elite" and see what they've done and where they went. But are you trying to suggest the Ben Kueter, for instance, wasn't an elite recruit? Or that Gabe Arnold, who was the U20 US Open champ as a HS Sr., wasn't an elite recruit? Those are both from 2023, IIRC. Sure, Iowa has focused on getting guys in the portal, but they're still landing elite HS guys. Its worth contextualizing the conversation in light of the idea that Iowa is the only team meaningfully compared to PSU. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorvarsity Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 18 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: that culture is ubiquitous. I remind you PSU had a 3 time NCAA champ forfeit out of the same tournament. Different year. Different circumstances in my opinion too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorvarsity Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 4 hours ago, lurker said: Hearing Kennedy is transferring out Does this rumor have legs? Or is it just an obvious option for a good kid getting pushed out the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurker Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, juniorvarsity said: Does this rumor have legs? Or is it just an obvious option for a good kid getting pushed out the lineup. Strong legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenwave Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Brands brothers and Iowa have now become the Colorado and Sanders of wrestling. With the transfers it reenforces their inability to recruit and development talent. They have road on Gables coat tails to long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 21 hours ago, headshuck said: Has anyone figured out the motivation behind the recent drive to win a title at all costs, specifically transfer costs? Iowa Hawkeye Wrestling was one of the strongest sports franchises in the past century. Sure, it was the winning streak, but it was much more. It was the unheard of mental and physical barriers their wrestlers went through to win. Do they think winning titles again with transfers is enough to restore the brand? Maybe it’s simply a compensation contract the coaches made to win regardless of approach? You’d think an Iowa brand contract would spend money and resources on “grass roots” recruits, whatever it took. The cost to Iowa is what $0? Iowa isn’t paying NIL….. external donors are…. At least that’s what I thought. Also… the blue psu sunglasses often forget psu dips into the transfer pool a bit too. kerk. Dean. Truax. Messenbrink. Ngao to name a few. Some of those are ncaa champions / finalists. Edited August 25 by Caveira 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorvarsity Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 2 minutes ago, Caveira said: The cost to Iowa is what $0? Iowa isn’t paying NIL….. external donors are…. At least that’s what I thought. Ok, sure. But it is essentially viewed as the program allocating dollars. I am sure they collaborate on where to put the money to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 ^^^ Cav is dead on. The only 'cost' associated to the University is any collateral damage done to the culture of the team. Also, the scuttlebutt is Aiden Riggins to ISU. i myself have not heard that from any reliable source but that's the rumor. apparently Brad Hill is on the move, too TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 3 minutes ago, juniorvarsity said: Ok, sure. But it is essentially viewed as the program allocating dollars. I am sure they collaborate on where to put the money to use. That would be illegal no? nil is ruining college sports yes….. diff topic though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 ^^^ Cav is dead on. The only 'cost' associated to the University is any collateral damage done to the culture of the team. Also, the scuttlebutt is Aiden Riggins to ISU. i myself have not heard that from any reliable source but that's the rumor. apparently Brad Hill is on the move, tooI’m certainly no Iowa fan, but setting aside “Iowa” here, it’d be sad to see this happen to any program. Does Slumlord Supreme clear these purchases with TnT before he writes the check(s)? Do they care?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Just now, Le duke said: I’m certainly no Iowa fan, but setting aside “Iowa” here, it’d be sad to see this happen to any program. Does Slumlord Supreme clear these purchases with TnT before he writes the check(s)? Do they care? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk who's slumlord supreme "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 5 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: who's slumlord supreme . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 2 minutes ago, ionel said: tom wilkinson was a really good actor "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 53 minutes ago, Le duke said: I’m certainly no Iowa fan, but setting aside “Iowa” here, it’d be sad to see this happen to any program. Does Slumlord Supreme clear these purchases with TnT before he writes the check(s)? Do they care? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Broken record for the blue glasses crowd. Iowa isn’t paying them. Any more than Carl isn’t paying their slew of ncaa finalist : champion : aa transfers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 4 hours ago, Husker_Du said: ^^^ Cav is dead on. The only 'cost' associated to the University is any collateral damage done to the culture of the team. Also, the scuttlebutt is Aiden Riggins to ISU. i myself have not heard that from any reliable source but that's the rumor. apparently Brad Hill is on the move, too I’m not sure why people are acting like it’s very surprising that guys at Iowa that are getting recruited over late in their careers or are buried in the depth chart behind young studs are rumored to be leaving. They probably want to go somewhere that they have a chance to start. Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 4 hours ago, Caveira said: erk. Dean. Truax. Messenbrink. Ngao to name a few. Some of those are ncaa champions / finalists. How much did Dean and Kerk get? Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, Idaho said: How much did Dean and Kerk get? Dunno. Tell me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, Caveira said: Dunno. Tell me ? I don’t that’s why I asked you the question since you pointed them out Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 18 hours ago, juniorvarsity said: Different year. Different circumstances in my opinion too That is crazy... those Iowa guys who forfeited out of that B10 tourney were all legit injured. It was evident two weeks later at NCAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 16 hours ago, Greenwave said: Brands brothers and Iowa have now become the Colorado and Sanders of wrestling. With the transfers it reenforces their inability to recruit and development talent. They have road on Gables coat tails to long. Does PSU have any transfers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 21 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Does PSU have any transfers? Not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 16 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Not this year. Oh, so no Kerk, MM, Nagao this year? That could make things interesting! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Oh, so no Kerk, MM, Nagao this year? That could make things interesting! Nagao won't start. Kerk never suited up for another college so he's not really a transfer the way everyone else. MM is the only true transfer Penn State will start this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 5 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Nagao won't start. Kerk never suited up for another college so he's not really a transfer the way everyone else. MM is the only true transfer Penn State will start this year. Ask Tom Ryan if Kerk is a transfer. Are you saying Nagao continues to get worse under Cael's tutleage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Ask Tom Ryan if Kerk is a transfer. Are you saying Nagao continues to get worse under Cael's tutleage? Why would Tom Ryan care? Nagao did worse last year than the year at Minnesota. Whether it was due to Cael, illness, burnout or other I don't know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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