Maxwell Smart Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 The Hawkeyes finished 6th in final recruiting on Flo. Angelo Ferrari #2, Miguel Estrada #48, and Kael Voinovich #99; Kyle Parco transferred in. Looks like they'll have to use the portal to keep up with everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRound Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 It really does seem like the Hawks are always teetering on the edge of a dark age without the portal as of late (relative to the program, of course). I wonder what is the true root of the problem besides the obvious Penn State dominance luring top recruits, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNwrestling Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 4 minutes ago, Maxwell Smart said: The Hawkeyes finished 6th in final recruiting on Flo. Angelo Ferrari #2, Miguel Estrada #48, and Kael Voinovich #99; Kyle Parco transferred in. Looks like they'll have to use the portal to keep up with everyone. The portal closed May 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Without the portal all top teams would score fewer points at NCAA but Iowa's relative place within that group might suffer. Maybe I'm wrong because I did not do the math on NCAA points scored by portal acquisitions. Maybe someone with more time can answer that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 They can still land Cannon in the portal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassling Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Iowa is no longer what they used to be. They will be competing for less than first place for many many years to come. Perhaps the unhinged angry boyz will retire and allow those more capable of team leadership to lead the team to a former level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildTurk Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 A lot of fans from other teams sure seem worried about what Iowa is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_rascal Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Iowa will be fine imo. Current team is pretty stacked. But they def should be focused on getting one of these super recruits still available if possible... Then they can continue to focus on portal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Smart Posted July 2 Author Share Posted July 2 To clarify, I meant the next few years. Hard to stay up there with the small # of top recruits coming from this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 From @Husker_Du 's last pod it sounds like they are offering guys a lot to flip but it seems like kids are just rather disinterested in the program. They are also dealing with two teams reporting them for tampering and reaching out before guys enter the portal which is a bag of worms. For these young guys I think that they need to see you can win there and by win I don't mean AA I mean win it all because with the level these kids are out now it feels like it's probably all or nothing for them. Outside of Spencer they really have not shown that in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 5 hours ago, Rassling said: Iowa is no longer what they used to be. They will be competing for less than first place for many many years to come. Perhaps the unhinged angry boyz will retire and allow those more capable of team leadership to lead the team to a former level. This. They can't develop their own wrestlers because the old school Brands brawler crap doesn't work anymore, and they're incapable of evolving. The sport has change and they can't keep up. Even their store bought team can't excel under their leadership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieDave87 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 They'll be fine when they ditch the bash bros and get a real coaching staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 3 hours ago, KCMO2 said: This. They can't develop their own wrestlers because the old school Brands brawler crap doesn't work anymore, and they're incapable of evolving. The sport has change and they can't keep up. Even their store bought team can't excel under their leadership. Ayala and Glazier showed some pretty good “development” IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3grappler Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Am I crazy? Didn’t Iowa just win a national title like 3 years ago? Why the brands hate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Ayala and Glazier showed some pretty good “development” IMOCounterpoint: There’s a good chance Iowa gets blanked at Penn State this year.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Am I crazy? Didn’t Iowa just win a national title like 3 years ago? Why the brands hate?Because they fall apart more often than not. They were the #1 team at the start of 2022 and imploded.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 35 minutes ago, Le duke said: Counterpoint: There’s a good chance Iowa gets blanked at Penn State this year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Well for one I wouldn’t say showing development and being blanked by Penn State are mutually exclusive. And I’d bet they get at least one out of Ayala, Parco and Brands, probably wouldn’t rule out Arnold over Haines either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 37 minutes ago, Le duke said: Because they fall apart more often than not. They were the #1 team at the start of 2022 and imploded. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Any team except PSU would probably love to “implode” to third place after losing a 3x champ to injury. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 11 hours ago, Maxwell Smart said: The Hawkeyes finished 6th in final recruiting on Flo. Angelo Ferrari #2, Miguel Estrada #48, and Kael Voinovich #99; Kyle Parco transferred in. Looks like they'll have to use the portal to keep up with everyone. it seems like the more money you put into portal guys, the less goes to actual recruit, and the more tempting it is rely on the portal. Plus who wants to recruit highschoolers when you can get guys you know can handle college "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Or invest in undergrads when you can buy masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 9 minutes ago, headshuck said: Or invest in undergrads when you can buy masters. hey by then they're too old(woods, truax)! Gotta steal em young "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 3 hours ago, 1032004 said: Ayala and Glazier showed some pretty good “development” IMO Did they? Ayala was a top 5 P4P recruit coming out (and lost to a guy he had battled with in HS in natty finals), I’d consider that living up to expectations more than anything. And Glazier went 1-2 at NCAA’s I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 5 hours ago, Winners Circle said: Did they? Ayala was a top 5 P4P recruit coming out (and lost to a guy he had battled with in HS in natty finals), I’d consider that living up to expectations more than anything. And Glazier went 1-2 at NCAA’s I believe. Lol. Yes Glazier had a bad tournament, but he did show development. Looking at Flo’s 2021 recruiting class rankings, Figueroa was #1 and Ayala #5, and if I’m not mistaken they are the only 2 on the whole list who have made an NCAA final so far (and there were 2 PSU guys ranked ahead of Ayala). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 27 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Lol. Yes Glazier had a bad tournament, but he did show development. Looking at Flo’s 2021 recruiting class rankings, Figueroa was #1 and Ayala #5, and if I’m not mistaken they are the only 2 on the whole list who have made an NCAA final so far (and there were 2 PSU guys ranked ahead of Ayala). Checks out... https://www.flowrestling.org/rankings/6031579-class-of-2021-high-school-big-board/38557-senior-big-board "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 10 hours ago, 1032004 said: Well for one I wouldn’t say showing development and being blanked by Penn State are mutually exclusive. And I’d bet they get at least one out of Ayala, Parco and Brands, probably wouldn’t rule out Arnold over Haines either. Ayala at 125? I'd take Lilledahl. If he goes 133, as rumored, he could beat Nagao, sure. Parco isn't beating SVN. Arnold over Haines is laughable. He just lost twice to a high school kid who will be the Penn State 3rd string 174, if Haines goes that weight. Brands over Barr, I could see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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