Upper weights - it's about time

[1032004]

12 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

If these ten weights are good for the rest of the world, why are they not good enough for Murica? If you are light just stuff a bald eagle into your singlet at weigh-ins.

57kg = 125.6

61kg = 134.4

65kg = 143.3

70kg = 154.3

74kg = 163.1

79kg = 174.1

86kg = 189.5

92kg = 202.8

97kg = 213.8

125kg = 275.5

There are worse things they could do, but don’t people often comment that 92 kg is weak internationally even compared to 61/70/79?  Seems weird to go 15 pounds from 174 to 189, but then the next 2 are only 13 and 11 lb increases.  The increments should increase as you go up.  And as posted above you’re basically also removing a weight where the highest # of people are (157/165)

 

[bnwtwg]

3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

There are worse things they could do, but don’t people often comment that 92 kg is weak internationally even compared to 61/70/79?  Seems weird to go 15 pounds from 174 to 189, but then the next 2 are only 13 and 11 lb increases.  The increments should increase as you go up.  And as posted above you’re basically also removing a weight where the highest # of people are (157/165)

 

They say the same about every non-olympic weight. 

Regarding most people at 157/165... well they can do the same thing every person ever recruited weighing over 190 pounds going into college was told: you can cut weight or you can bulk up. Or are you not committed to the team?

[Scouts Honor]

17 hours ago, ionel said:

the general population?

athletes in general.

especially high level athletes like college wrestlers

 

[nhs67]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

There are worse things they could do, but don’t people often comment that 92 kg is weak internationally even compared to 61/70/79?  Seems weird to go 15 pounds from 174 to 189, but then the next 2 are only 13 and 11 lb increases.  The increments should increase as you go up.  And as posted above you’re basically also removing a weight where the highest # of people are (157/165)

 

Those are MFS weights.

MGR has more grapplers, internationally.  Why not use their weights?

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Any chance you would be willing to do this for D2 and D3 as well?

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Any chance you would be willing to do this for D2 and D3 as well?

D2 and D3 guys eat better.

Edited February 6, 2024 by Wrestleknownothing

[nhs67]

Badass, thank you Wkn!

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

Badass, thank you Wkn!

You asked so nicely.

[bnwtwg]

3 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Those are MFS weights.

MGR has more grapplers, internationally.  Why not use their weights?

Because this is America where we deliver blast doubles of freedom and let democracy ring with leg sweeps. Are you one of those greco commies that likes to wear the red singlet?

Edited February 6, 2024 by bnwtwg

[nhs67]

29 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

Because this is America where we deliver blast doubles of freedom and let democracy ring with leg sweeps. Are you one of those greco commies that likes to wear the red singlet?

No.  I just understand that we have two international styles I would prefer to feed in to, not just one.

[bnwtwg]

3 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

No.  I just understand that we have two international styles I would prefer to feed in to, not just one.

Hmm...

Just dropped to 2.5 and you're skating on thin ice buster.

[nhs67]

2 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

Hmm...

Just dropped to 2.5 and you're skating on thin ice buster.

Joke is on you!  I had three other's tabbed... that actually makes it 3.5!

[ionel]

8 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

[Truzzcat]

anyone over 285 that is athletic enough to compete at a d1 level will likely be playing collegiate football especially with NIL the way it is now at least in my opinion.

[bnwtwg]

@Wrestleknownothing when are you going to *quit playing around and give the people what we really want:

Pie charts of your favorite bars and bar graphs of your favorite pies and heat maps of your coolest places to visit?

Edited February 7, 2024 by bnwtwg

[Barracuda141]

Lets not and say we did. Why would we want to essentially combine 149 & 157 just so we can add a 220ish weight? That makes zero sense. We would be eliminating some of the best wrestlers from NCAAs and welcoming in some of the worst. There are already enough complaints about the UWW weights and how little sense they make. NCAA weights are way way better imo

UWW                                       NCAA

57kg-125lbs                            125lbs

61kg-134lbs                            133lbs

65kg-143lbs                            141lbs

70kg-154lbs                            149lbs

74kg-163lbs                            157lbs

79kg-174lbs                            165lbs

86kg-190lbs                            174lbs

92kg-203lbs                           184lbs

97kg-214lbs                            197lbs

125kg-276lbs                          285lbs

[Hilton Head Joe]

Are they still thinking about adding weights or a weight? 

[666]

On 2/5/2024 at 7:48 PM, AgaveMaria said:

Yes, it is about time to add a weight class and up the poundage for heavies.

Add 225 and up the top guys to 300 or 320.

We no longer have a 115 pound class. People are getting bigger and heavier. NFL and other pro sports have many big guys who are too heavy to wrestle because of the 285 limit. Many of them are not lardbutts, but athletes who carry the weight and have no problems with being fat.

No to going back to Unlimited at the top. Making adjustments is only rational now as we are seeing more and more top grade athletes with the frame and flexibility formerly associated with smaller competitors.

Yes, it would add one more weight class. That would help eliminate ties in match wins in duals. It would be more realistic in addressing the big wrestlers needs for a weight class that fits todays athletes.

USA Wrestling could go along and start lobbying International bodies to follow suit. We see other countries who have to cut larger wrestlers as they have trouble getting down to the 276 pound limit.

Bigger, faster, stronger - it is reality today. Why not make it reality on the mat?

Remove the weight cap on HWT and the fat boys will return to wrestling, especially with all the tasty NIL money out there to be had. I'd rather do that than add a watered down 220 pound weight class to college since 220 is arguably the weakest weight class in HS wrestling already.