Iowa vs Iowa State

[Hokeye]

I think Spencer will go for this dual.  If it starts at 133 or 141 and Iowa is up big he won't, but Brands cares a great deal about winning this dual.  I think Murin will handle Johnson just like I think Carr is too fast for Kennedy.  

125- Spencer by fall 6-0

133- Teske close 9-0

141- The little Metcalf over Woods 9-3

149 Murin  by 5.  12=3

157 Magic ends for Iowa  12-9

165 Carr too fast. 12-12

174- Brands easy 15-12

184 Assad almost but coleman clutch 15-15

197- Warner is a squeaker 18-15

285- Cass showing seperation and pinning. 24-15

[1032004]

4 hours ago, VakAttack said:

I think Lee will be used sparingly, but I believe (with no inside info) that his final Cy-Hawk Dual will be one of those moments.

This is my thought as well

[Nailbender]

I hope to see SL but I'm not counting on it. I can't wait to find out. Sunday is going to be a great day to be in Carver!

[Crablegs]

13 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Man, I would love to see him vs ISU but 11 months after double knee surgery just doesn't sound like enough time to get into something resembling wrestling shape

That would be a problem if Spencer was any type of normal wrestler.  But he regularly techs or pins top 20 opponents in 3-4 minutes and has even won NCAAs with blown ACL.  There is no reason to think that a 60% Spencer wouldn’t pin/tech Terukina.

[MNRodent]

Probables have been released...

Iowa's Probable Lineup

125: Aidan Harris

133: Cullan Schriever

141: #3 Real Woods or Drew Bennett

149: #6 Max Murin

157: #21 Cobe Siebrecht or Caleb Rathjen

165: #15 Patrick Kennedy

174: #20 Nelson Brands

184: #9 Abe Assad

197: #3 Jacob Warner

285: #4 Anthony Cassioppi

Iowa State's Probable Lineup

125: #12 Kysen Terukina

133: #15 Zach Redding or Ramazan Attasauov

141: #8 Casey Swiderski

149: #9 Paniro Johnson

157: Jason Kraisser

165: #3 David Carr

174: Julien Broderson

184: #5 Marcus Coleman

197: #6 Yonger Bastida

285: #10 Sam Schuyler

[Caveira]

Is this isu’s best team in a long time?  With an upset here or there isu could win this.   (And I’m a Hawkeye fan).    

[Warm Up Champ]

Is Brands going to take off his running shoe and flash it at the Cyclone bench?

 

[Gus]

Hearing rumors that 125 and HWT for ISU may be out.

[Mr. PeanutButter]

I saw on HR a couple posts reporting that Teske is on his way down to 125. Sounded like a load of bologna but today, someone I know who purports to catch wind of insider info corroborated that fact.

For what it's worth, my "source" likes to overexaggerate how much of an insider he actually is and never gave me any novel info (that I couldn't find online first) but I found it curious that he was saying the same stuff, especially since he claims to not read HR or twitter

[VakAttack]

Brands said in an interview a few weeks ago that Teske wasn't certified at 125, so, if that is true, he can't be going down to 125 lbs.

[ionel]

10 hours ago, Gus said:

Hearing rumors that 125 and HWT for ISU may be out.

[Hammerlock3]

1 minute ago, VakAttack said:

Brands said in an interview a few weeks ago that Teske wasn't certified at 125, so, if that is true, he can't be going down to 125 lbs.

Plus it doesn't make a lot of sense situationally. 

"hey while your competing to win a starting spot at 133, do you mind losing 8 pounds to cover a dual? it will seriously undermine your long term goals but we don't like cyclones!"

"Sure! Can I keep the spot?"

"No its gonna go to Lee without a wrestle off, what do you want us to look like idiots?"

It only makes sense if Lee is done.

[VakAttack]

9 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Plus it doesn't make a lot of sense situationally. 

"hey while your competing to win a starting spot at 133, do you mind losing 8 pounds to cover a dual? it will seriously undermine your long term goals but we don't like cyclones!"

"Sure! Can I keep the spot?"

"No its gonna go to Lee without a wrestle off, what do you want us to look like idiots?"

It only makes sense if Lee is done.

I believe that's what the insinuation behind the rumor is, but I just don't think there's any reason to believe that.  If there were even a scintilla of proof backing this up, we'll find out when Patrick Minnow pretends he's got the scoop 3 days from now.

[Hammerlock3]

On 11/29/2022 at 5:15 AM, Hokeye said:

I think Spencer will go for this dual.  If it starts at 133 or 141 and Iowa is up big he won't, but Brands cares a great deal about winning this dual.  I think Murin will handle Johnson just like I think Carr is too fast for Kennedy.  

125- Spencer by fall 6-0

133- Teske close 9-0

141- The little Metcalf over Woods 9-3

149 Murin  by 5.  12=3

157 Magic ends for Iowa  12-9

165 Carr too fast. 12-12

174- Brands easy 15-12

184 Assad almost but coleman clutch 15-15

197- Warner is a squeaker 18-15

285- Cass showing seperation and pinning. 24-15

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but if you offered a bet that the opposite was closer to the team score I would take it.

[Hammerlock3]

11 hours ago, VakAttack said:

I believe that's what the insinuation behind the rumor is, but I just don't think there's any reason to believe that.  If there were even a scintilla of proof backing this up, we'll find out when Patrick Minnow pretends he's got the scoop 3 days from now.

i have to say its similar to last year when I was absolutely abused after the glory thing for saying either he should be wrestling now or not at all, and was correct, just not in the way anyone wanted.

If he is really still a question mark you would think the Brands' would have been smart enough to spin him as doubtful and make it good news if he came back, the current spin just makes them look ridiculous.

Edited December 1, 2022 by Hammerlock3

[Hammerlock3]

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Edited December 1, 2022 by Hammerlock3

[ionel]

9 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

 

If he is really still i question mark you would think the Brands' would have been smart enough to spin him as doubtful and make it good news if he came back, the current spin just makes them look ridiculous.

Shirley you can't be serious.  

When asked about Spencer Lee, Real Woods, and Brody Teske's health in Tuesday's press conference, Tom Brands responded, 

"I know they (Lee, Teske, Woods) want to get on the mat. They're excited to get on the mat. Our fans want them on the mat. We want them on the mat. Just gotta keep working towards it." - Tom Brands

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Nelson Brands was not mentioned as a probable vs. Penn.  Minnow said he was out for the year.  Wrestled vs. Penn.

[ionel]

7 minutes ago, ionel said:

 

When asked about Spencer Lee, Real Woods, and Brody Teske's health in Tuesday's press conference, Tom Brands responded, 

"I know they (Lee, Teske, Woods) want to get on the mat. They're excited to get on the mat. Our fans want them on the mat. We want them on the mat. Just gotta keep working towards it." - Tom Brands

As my good internet buddy @MPhillips would say:

the mat ... Get on It!

[MPhillips]

6 hours ago, ionel said:

As my good internet buddy @MPhillips would say:

the mat ... Get on It!

Exactly! Quit, 'half steppin' and Get On IT!

 

[Nittanychris]

25 Terukina MAJ Harris, 4-0 ISU

33 Redding DEC Schriever, 7-0 ISU

41 Swiderski DEC Woods, 10-0 ISU

49 Murin DEC Johnson, 10-3 ISU

57 Siebrecht DEC Kraisser, 10-6 ISU

65 Carr DEC Kennedy, 13-6 ISU

74 Brands DEC Broderson, 13-9 ISU

84 Coleman DEC Assad, 16-9 ISU

97 Warner DEC Bastida, 16-12 ISU

HW Cassioppi MAJ Schuyler, 16-16 ISU wins on criteria.

[nhs67]

125 - Terukina over Harris via Major

ISU 4-0

133 - Schriever over Attasauov via Decision

ISU 4-3

141 - Swiderski over Woods via Decision

ISU 7-3

149 - Murin ovee Johnson via Decision

ISU 7-6

157 - Kraisser over Siebrecht via Decision

ISU 10-6

165 - Carr DEC Kennedy via Decision

ISU 13-6

174 - Brands over Broderson via Decision

ISU 13-9

184 - Coleman over Assad via Decision

ISU 16-9

197 - Bastida over Warner via Decision

ISU 19-9

285 - Cassioppi over Schuyler via Pin

ISU 19-15

If this match starts at 133... it will be 15-9 heading in to heavy... a Cassioppi Pin will tie it at 15-15.

Then the Lee gets freed... and he wins via Tech - giving Iowa the 20-15 dual victory.

[Mr. PeanutButter]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

125 - Terukina over Harris via Major

ISU 4-0

133 - Schriever over Attasauov via Decision

ISU 4-3

141 - Swiderski over Woods via Decision

ISU 7-3

149 - Murin ovee Johnson via Decision

ISU 7-6

157 - Kraisser over Siebrecht via Decision

ISU 10-6

165 - Carr DEC Kennedy via Decision

ISU 13-6

174 - Brands over Broderson via Decision

ISU 13-9

184 - Coleman over Assad via Decision

ISU 16-9

197 - Bastida over Warner via Decision

ISU 19-9

285 - Cassioppi over Schuyler via Pin

ISU 19-15

If this match starts at 133... it will be 15-9 heading in to heavy... a Cassioppi Pin will tie it at 15-15.

Then the Lee gets freed... and he wins via Tech - giving Iowa the 20-15 dual victory.

This would sure make for an eggciting dual!

How confident are you about the 141 prediction?

[CycloneFan97]

Dual starting at 125

Edited December 4, 2022 by CycloneFan97

[MNRodent]

Starting at 125,   decisions, decisions.