ThreePointTakedown Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Getting shut out by ISU is not a great look for CB. What is the upside to keeping him on as HC? Who else could take over and do better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I don't think Bono is in jeopardy, but Askren could probably do better. I think they missed their chance though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, 1032004 said: I don't think Bono is in jeopardy, but Askren could probably do better. I think they missed their chance though. My thinking aligns with yours, more or less. They would have to throw something ridiculous at Askren to have it make sense for him. He doesn't need the job. That said, once some of his AWA guys make it through college, he could start plucking them for his coaching staff. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Bono may not be in Jeopardy but the current state will not work, Wisconsin is producing some high caliber high school wrestlers and few if any are going to Wisconsin, we can all sit around the fire with a bottle of Whiskey and debate why they are not going to Wisconsin, but the bottom line is they are not and if that does not change nothing is going to change in Madison 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ivan Stankowski said: Bono may not be in Jeopardy but the current state will not work, Wisconsin is producing some high caliber high school wrestlers and few if any are going to Wisconsin, we can all sit around the fire with a bottle of Whiskey and debate why they are not going to Wisconsin, but the bottom line is they are not and if that does not change nothing is going to change in Madison Well AWA has what.... 95%+ of the top-end talent there? Hopke is the basically the lone exception, right... and he went to Minny. With the bridge being burnt between Benji and Bono I don't expect any top-end Wiscy talent to go to Wiscy. Actually that burnt bridge may be damning in many other states too. More people (kids) know who Askren is than Bono (the coach - duh!). Askren has been vocal about how much of a dishonest turdbiscuit Bono is. 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Well AWA has what.... 95%+ of the top-end talent there? Hopke is the basically the lone exception, right... and he went to Minny. With the bridge being burnt between Benji and Bono I don't expect any top-end Wiscy talent to go to Wiscy. Actually that burnt bridge may be damning in many other states too. More people (kids) know who Askren is than Bono (the coach - duh!). Askren has been vocal about how much of a dishonest turdbiscuit Bono is. What a horrible bridge to burn. Crazy to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I hope he stays in Wisconsin forever Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Well AWA has what.... 95%+ of the top-end talent there? Hopke is the basically the lone exception, right... and he went to Minny. With the bridge being burnt between Benji and Bono I don't expect any top-end Wiscy talent to go to Wiscy. Actually that burnt bridge may be damning in many other states too. More people (kids) know who Askren is than Bono (the coach - duh!). Askren has been vocal about how much of a dishonest turdbiscuit Bono is. I think it’s been talked about here before but can’t remember, what even happened between Bono and Askren? Edited November 20, 2023 by 1032004 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNRodent Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, poorwrestler said: I hope he stays in Wisconsin forever Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah, everything is fine. Leave it alone. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNRodent Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: I think it’s been talked about here before but can’t remember, what even happened between Bono and Askren? Probably more than one thing, but a big thing that Askren has mentioned was a dispute over practice facility usage during the covid shutdown when he was doing the Wisconsin RTC gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, MNRodent said: Probably more than one thing, but a big thing that Askren has mentioned was a dispute over practice facility usage during the covid shutdown when he was doing the Wisconsin RTC gig. Insofar as that goes, I don't think Askren has much leg to stand on. Wasn't Bono just following the rules and stipulations that the B1G put forth? Askren is and was a known believer in it being a Plandemic. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbone Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Bono's issues, whatever they are, that led to them getting shutout by ISU go beyond Askren IMO. He was unable to keep his two best wrestlers in Gomez and Wick from finishing their careers at Wis. let along staying post grad to train. I get that outside factors may have played in there but if you can't keep your best around to wrestle post-grad it is not a good sign. Braxton Amos was as blue chip as they come and he hasn't sniffed AA status yet. What's going in on Madison?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dogbone said: Bono's issues, whatever they are, that led to them getting shutout by ISU go beyond Askren IMO. He was unable to keep his two best wrestlers in Gomez and Wick from finishing their careers at Wis. let along staying post grad to train. I get that outside factors may have played in there but if you can't keep your best around to wrestle post-grad it is not a good sign. Braxton Amos was as blue chip as they come and he hasn't sniffed AA status yet. What's going in on Madison?? I am curious as to the Seth Gross situation. The guy seems to be as cool and good as they come with a focus on his god and family. Yet he sticks around that Turdbiscuit (capital T). "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I am curious as to the Seth Gross situation. The guy seems to be as cool and good as they come with a focus on his god and family. Yet he sticks around that Turdbiscuit (capital T). I think the short answer is: "he's Bono's guy." 2 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Ivan Stankowski said: Bono may not be in Jeopardy but the current state will not work, Wisconsin is producing some high caliber high school wrestlers and few if any are going to Wisconsin, we can all sit around the fire with a bottle of Whiskey and debate why they are not going to Wisconsin, but the bottom line is they are not and if that does not change nothing is going to change in Madison I wasn't going to say anything, but it's my duty as a respected and impartial journalist to note that, on the same day the Badgers lost 42-0 to ISU, Wisconsin high school four-timer and Who's #1 wrestler Braeden Scoles won a varsity dual match as a true Freshman for the ILLINI. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said: I wasn't going to say anything, but it's my duty as a respected and impartial journalist to note that, on the same day the Badgers lost 42-0 to ISU, Wisconsin high school four-timer and Who's #1 wrestler Braeden Scoles won a varsity dual match as a true Freshman for the ILLINI. Not sayin'. Just sayin'. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 57 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said: I wasn't going to say anything, but it's my duty as a respected and impartial journalist to note that, on the same day the Badgers lost 42-0 to ISU, Wisconsin high school four-timer and Who's #1 wrestler Braeden Scoles won a varsity dual match as a true Freshman for the ILLINI. And Again Not surprised by this reply at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat_charlie Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 The Bono/Askren relationship not working out was just about the most predictable thing ever. I don't think anyone needs to name call on either side. Now, I think it is more than fair to question Bono's judgment when it comes to that entire situation. AWA is producing the best talent in the state, and some of the best talent in the entire country overall. Putting yourself in a situation where you might be at odds with their staff... not so wise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I'm interested in how this plays out. Barry Alvarez was the athletic director when Bono and Askren were hired (and when Askren resigned). The current AD, Chris Macintosh, was associate AD during those times. I'm not sure how much he had to do with those situations, but he would certainly be aware of them. Also, Macintosh was a Wisconsin state wrestling champion from suburban Milwaukee (like Askren) and would have known about Askren since Ben's high school days. I'm not an insider, so I don't know if Macintosh is an Askren fan or not. 1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, jchapman said: I'm interested in how this plays out. Barry Alvarez was the athletic director when Bono and Askren were hired (and when Askren resigned). The current AD, Chris Macintosh, was associate AD during those times. I'm not sure how much he had to do with those situations, but he would certainly be aware of them. Also, Macintosh was a Wisconsin state wrestling champion from suburban Milwaukee (like Askren) and would have known about Askren since Ben's high school days. I'm not an insider, so I don't know if Macintosh is an Askren fan or not. I think Macintosh is more concerned about Fickell and the Football program right now (which I am sure they will get figured out shortly) then the few pennies the wrestling program brings in, but if I was Bono I would start to worry a bit, the recruiting and where the program is headed is concerning , but right now we have bigger fish to fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corby Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, jchapman said: I'm interested in how this plays out. Barry Alvarez was the athletic director when Bono and Askren were hired (and when Askren resigned). The current AD, Chris Macintosh, was associate AD during those times. I'm not sure how much he had to do with those situations, but he would certainly be aware of them. Also, Macintosh was a Wisconsin state wrestling champion from suburban Milwaukee (like Askren) and would have known about Askren since Ben's high school days. I'm not an insider, so I don't know if Macintosh is an Askren fan or not. Macintosh has a son who was 2nd in Wisconsin Jr high state last year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingFan89 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, Corby said: Macintosh has a son who was 2nd in Wisconsin Jr high state last year Does he train at AWA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Ivan Stankowski said: Bono may not be in Jeopardy but the current state will not work, Wisconsin is producing some high caliber high school wrestlers and few if any are going to Wisconsin, we can all sit around the fire with a bottle of Whiskey and debate why they are not going to Wisconsin, but the bottom line is they are not and if that does not change nothing is going to change in Madison This sounds a lot like the campfire talk when Davis "wasn't getting it done" in Madison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyBT Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Bono is the best thing that ever happened to Wisconsin. Extend him now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 is there a scenario like, he had a bunch of scholarship money and whiffed on all his recruits and just held unto it? trying to make sense of this. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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