Israel Attacked

[Bigbrog]

What's everyone's take on this?  First thing I'll say is it is absolutely horrible.  But as much as I try to understand the Gaza strip I still don't understand the hate.  And I hope the US stays out of it.

[WrestlingRasta]

Que everyone being an international policy expert for the next week….

[ionel]

17 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Que everyone being an international policy expert for the next week….

I don't often care about International Policy

But when I do

I come to the intermat forums

Stay political my friends.  

[Ban Basketball]

I've lived my entire life blissfully ignorant of international politics and affairs,  so little contribution from me. 

However, any time that the criminal,  serial UN violator,  authoritarian Nuttinbutayahoo can get some egg on his face I sleep well at night. 

[BobDole]

2 hours ago, Ban Basketball said:

I've lived my entire life blissfully ignorant

Nuff said

[Offthemat]

Some are relating this attack to 9/11.  Some are comparing it to Pearl Harbor.  Civilian casualties by the Japanese were incidental.  When civilians are attacked, it’s easy to take sides, and when women, children, and elderly are specifically targeted, there should be applied strategic deterrence.  That’s not to say the same tactics should be employed, but the use of human shields might prove ineffective. 

[TitleIX is ripe for reform]

This concluding (and very brief) scene from the 2005 movie hit Kingdom of Heaven depicts the conclusion of a long ago battle in the Middle East in which one of the leaders is asked what he thinks Jerusalem's worth.   His reaction seems to indicate that it's not worth much, other than the passion that some feel for it.    
 

 

[Ban Basketball]

5 hours ago, BobDole said:

Nuff said

Golly,  gee! Bob is SO clever!

Why,  even five people acted like puppets when artificially entertained!

Guy' a Shakespeer!

[Ban Basketball]

5 hours ago, Offthemat said:

Some are relating this attack to 9/11.  Some are comparing it to Pearl Harbor.  Civilian casualties by the Japanese were incidental.  When civilians are attacked, it’s easy to take sides, and when women, children, and elderly are specifically targeted, there should be applied strategic deterrence.  That’s not to say the same tactics should be employed, but the use of human shields might prove ineffective. 

You've gotta be VERY conflicted. 

[Gus]

It’s horrible but, unfortunately unsurprising. If you are a Bible student you learn in Genesis chapter 3 the promise that God have to Satan that he would bruise the head (Satan’s future eternal punishment in the lake of fire) and Satan would bruise the heal. Ever since that promise Satan has attempted to exterminate the lineage of Christ (OT) and now after the finished work of the cross Satan is trying to rid the earth of the Jewish people. It’s very sad and the USA should stand with the people of Israel. 

[Ban Basketball]

Yis know, friends,  another thing about Bob that should elicit five or more blind likes,  that there Bob can move on from twenty years ago,  friends. 

Why,  you ain't going to find Bob "sticky npteing", (or whatever the term is),  a vote concerning something from twenty years ago,  will we,  friends?

[Gus]

1 minute ago, Gus said:

It’s horrible but, unfortunately unsurprising. If you are a Bible student you learn in Genesis chapter 3 the promise that God have to Satan that he would bruise the head (Satan’s future eternal punishment in the lake of fire) and Satan would bruise the heal. Ever since that promise Satan has attempted to exterminate the lineage of Christ (OT) and now after the finished work of the cross Satan is trying to rid the earth of the Jewish people. It’s very sad and the USA should stand with the people of Israel. 

Bible verse for those interested

 

“And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3‬:‭14‬-‭15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[Ban Basketball]

Waiting for instruction and clicking like. 

Gotta love free thinkers,  eh, friends?

Self edit: I'm not talking about your two most recent posts,  Gus. It was a timing thing. 

Edited October 9, 2023 by Ban Basketball

[ionel]

7 hours ago, BobDole said:

Nuff said

Heard that was possible just didn't know we needed someone to teach others how.  

[Ban Basketball]

Add the freeest thinker of all to the parrot list,  friends. 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Many seem to think in terms of which 'side' to take, as if there are only two. That one must be right, while the other wrong.

As if everything is black and white. When this topic, like most everything that is complicated, is very much gray.

Our society is in a weird place right now. So eager to oversimplify.

[Bigbrog]

I don't think anyone has "oversimplified" anything...pretty much everyone's take is it is super complicated and not sure how to feel.  Other than the local narcisist trying to make it all about himself, people are not sure what to think.  

My opinion, it is just sad that in today's world there is a point where someone purposely bombs and kills innocent people...over what I can only imagine is politics/religion.  And not knowing the history of the Palestinians and Israel, I can only imagine that if Iran is supporting the Palestinians than it isn't good.

[Ban Basketball]

17 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

I don't think anyone has "oversimplified" anything...pretty much everyone's take is it is super complicated and not sure how to feel.  Other than the local narcisist trying to make it all about himself, people are not sure what to think.  

My opinion, it is just sad that in today's world there is a point where someone purposely bombs and kills innocent people...over what I can only imagine is politics/religion.  And not knowing the history of the Palestinians and Israel, I can only imagine that if Iran is supporting the Palestinians than it isn't good.

In other news,  white,  terrorist, "American," insurrectionists are mere trespassers. 

Edited October 9, 2023 by Ban Basketball

[GreatWhiteNorth]

20 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

I don't think anyone has "oversimplified" anything...pretty much everyone's take is it is super complicated and not sure how to feel.  Other than the local narcisist trying to make it all about himself, people are not sure what to think.  

My opinion, it is just sad that in today's world there is a point where someone purposely bombs and kills innocent people...over what I can only imagine is politics/religion.  And not knowing the history of the Palestinians and Israel, I can only imagine that if Iran is supporting the Palestinians than it isn't good.

Speaking of narcissists, my point wasn't directed toward you at all. It's sooo not always about you.

My point was directed toward social media in general. Not just here. So many seem to think that they have to "take a side." It is discouraging to watch so many folks post in that manner.

Wake up and take a look - you'll see so many on social media trying to make it into a B&W discussion.

Or just bitch at me some more. You seem more interested in wasting your effort targeting me.

 

[Gus]

22 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Speaking of narcissists, my point wasn't directed toward you at all. It's sooo not always about you.

My point was directed toward social media in general. Not just here. So many seem to think that they have to "take a side." It is discouraging to watch so many folks post in that manner.

Wake up and take a look - you'll see so many on social media trying to make it into a B&W discussion.

Or just bitch at me some more. You seem more interested in wasting your effort targeting me.

 

How is there a debate about what side to take in this debate? An Islamic terrorist group bombed and attacked Israeli civilians. It’s absolutely terrible and heartbreaking what is happening over there. 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

1 minute ago, Gus said:

How is there a debate about what side to take in this debate? An Islamic terrorist group bombed and attacked Israeli civilians. It’s absolutely terrible and heartbreaking what is happening over there. 

Personally, I couldn't agree with you more. What just happened is incredibly awful and unjustifiable. 

But the history here is long. If we were to include the previous decades of conflict in the discussion, the situation becomes quite complicated. Not as easy to decide when the scope is widened.

[Ban Basketball]

And let's not just turn our heads when Israel goes on an unexplained terror spree.

[billyhoyle]

5 hours ago, Gus said:

It’s horrible but, unfortunately unsurprising. If you are a Bible student you learn in Genesis chapter 3 the promise that God have to Satan that he would bruise the head (Satan’s future eternal punishment in the lake of fire) and Satan would bruise the heal. Ever since that promise Satan has attempted to exterminate the lineage of Christ (OT) and now after the finished work of the cross Satan is trying to rid the earth of the Jewish people. It’s very sad and the USA should stand with the people of Israel. 

You need to have a conversation with Mel Gibson. Bet you could really help his view on the world with this logic. 

[Ban Basketball]

11 hours ago, Gus said:

It’s horrible but, unfortunately unsurprising. If you are a Bible student you learn in Genesis chapter 3 the promise that God have to Satan that he would bruise the head (Satan’s future eternal punishment in the lake of fire) and Satan would bruise the heal. Ever since that promise Satan has attempted to exterminate the lineage of Christ (OT) and now after the finished work of the cross Satan is trying to rid the earth of the Jewish people. It’s very sad and the USA should stand with the people of Israel. 

Being that Satan opposes God in general, not just the Christian nor Jewish image of God, why would he be excluding Muslims, given that they have the same God?

[Ban Basketball]

I'll be anxious to see the memos that get thrown out to Tattletale and AM radio today as to which Democrats and /or librils that they are going to be instructed to blame for this front.