Terry Brands applied for the UNC Head Coach job?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

According to this: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/trouble-in-paradise.425634/

Maybe he wants to step out of his brother's shadow?

[1032004]

Sheesh Jimmy do you get an alert for every post at HR?  That post was made 3 minutes before you posted 

[Husker_Du]

yes. i talked about it (briefly) on the show i just posted. 

subscribe or you're banned for life. 

https://rokfin.com/post/148286/TFW-91223-Ayres--JR-Big-Board-Breakdown

 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Honestly, it is pretty crazy that Terry Brands, with all of his personal and coaching accolades, can't get a HC job.

[nhs67]

  On 9/12/2023 at 12:28 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Honestly, it is pretty crazy that Terry Brands, with all of his personal and coaching accolades, can't get a HC job.

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That is a stupid statement.  Even for you.

[pokemonster]

Definitely interesting news, didn't realize Terry was searching for HC jobs as well. Thanks for sharing Jimmy. actually bringing some convo to the board. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 9/12/2023 at 2:35 PM, pokemonster said:

Definitely interesting news, didn't realize Terry was searching for HC jobs as well. Thanks for sharing Jimmy. actually bringing some convo to the board. 

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Interesting.  His son may be done.  Maybe just throwing his hat into the ring and testing the waters?

[Mr. PeanutButter]

Very interesting. Not sure what to make it of it. Hasn't Terry gone on record saying he doesn't like all the ancillary responsibilities that come with a head coaching position? 

Maybe this is a way for him to haggle for a higher salary with Iowa? 

[steamboat_charlie]

This actually does surprise me, but the point about Nelson graduating makes sense.  

I don't see any major program giving him a shot.  I think I'm stating the obvious here in saying this--he's a strong individual coach, but he's lacking in some key areas that are required for long-term success as the head of a program.  In order for him to be successful as a head coach, I think he'd need to rely heavily on an associate head coach that can fill those gaps, and I'm not sure who that guy is.  

I could see him going to a smaller program and having some success, at least on an individual basis with a handful of guys.  I just don't see him signing up for a pay cut, which is what that would be.  

 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:26 PM, steamboat_charlie said:

This actually does surprise me, but the point about Nelson graduating makes sense.  

I don't see any major program giving him a shot.  I think I'm stating the obvious here in saying this--he's a strong individual coach, but he's lacking in some key areas that are required for long-term success as the head of a program.  In order for him to be successful as a head coach, I think he'd need to rely heavily on an associate head coach that can fill those gaps, and I'm not sure who that guy is.  

I could see him going to a smaller program and having some success, at least on an individual basis with a handful of guys.  I just don't see him signing up for a pay cut, which is what that would be.  

 

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May I suggest this young man for Terry's associate head coach?

[steamboat_charlie]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:30 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

May I suggest this young man for Terry's associate head coach?

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Too injury prone.  The best ability is availability, and you usually want your coaches to show up.  

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:35 PM, steamboat_charlie said:

Too injury prone.  The best ability is availability, and you usually want your coaches to show up.  

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He's downstairs drilling right now...

[nhs67]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:30 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

May I suggest this young man for Terry's associate head coach?

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Phuk me, Cinny.  I actually love this.

[nhs67]

Also - Go poach Metcalf.

[Voice of the Quakers]

I hope Terry applies for the Princeton job. Ivy League could use someone of his intensity. 

[BobDole]

  On 9/12/2023 at 5:31 PM, Voice of the Quakers said:

I hope Terry applies for the Princeton job. Ivy League could use someone of his intensity. 

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Dubuque just sits in the corner and reads the newspaper during most matches.

[Gus]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:26 PM, steamboat_charlie said:

This actually does surprise me, but the point about Nelson graduating makes sense.  

I don't see any major program giving him a shot.  I think I'm stating the obvious here in saying this--he's a strong individual coach, but he's lacking in some key areas that are required for long-term success as the head of a program.  In order for him to be successful as a head coach, I think he'd need to rely heavily on an associate head coach that can fill those gaps, and I'm not sure who that guy is.  

I could see him going to a smaller program and having some success, at least on an individual basis with a handful of guys.  I just don't see him signing up for a pay cut, which is what that would be.  

 

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If he is actually applying for jobs Terry Brands will be at or near the top of the list for any school that has an open position.

[Dogbone]

The interesting thing with regard to Spencer is (I believe) he signed with HWC through 2028.   If Terry leaves I doubt his contract with HWC would allow him to leave.  I am sure they would work something out (if Spencer even would want out) but Terry leaving could have a greater impact on the HWC than the Hawkeyes.   

[ionel]

  On 9/12/2023 at 5:31 PM, Voice of the Quakers said:

I hope Terry applies for the Princeton job. Ivy League could use someone of his intensity. 

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[juniorvarsity]

Super interesting. Gotta give the job to Koll, though. A proven guy. What he did at Cornell was amazing.

Does anyone know who else applied/interviewed?

Where else would Terry Brands apply to coach at? Is he gonna throw his hat in the ring for the next Big 10 head coach opening? He was def not on my radar for potential head coach jobs.

[steamboat_charlie]

  On 9/12/2023 at 5:58 PM, Gus said:

If he is actually applying for jobs Terry Brands will be at or near the top of the list for any school that has an open position.

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Any school? I don't think so.  He wasn't at the top of UNC's list, nor Stanford's, nor will he be for Princeton.  

Are we going to pretend he isn't who he is?  He's an attack dog. He's notoriously hot tempered. He's confrontational with officials, fans, and opposing wrestlers.  He hasn't been a head coach in 20 years.  The last time he was, he bailed after 3 seasons.  Some of his conduct you'd be surprised to see from a young coach in their 20's, let alone a guy in his mid 50's.  Are you imagining he's interviewing well--or do you think some AD's might be put off by the thousand yard stare?

I don't dislike the guy or anything.  He's entertaining as hell as a spectator.  He's just not head coach material.  

[ionel]

  On 9/12/2023 at 7:13 PM, steamboat_charlie said:

Any school? I don't think so.  He wasn't at the top of UNC's list, nor Stanford's, nor will he be for Princeton.  

Are we going to pretend he isn't who he is?  He's an attack dog. He's notoriously hot tempered. He's confrontational with officials, fans, and opposing wrestlers.  He hasn't been a head coach in 20 years.  The last time he was, he bailed after 3 seasons.  Some of his conduct you'd be surprised to see from a young coach in their 20's, let alone a guy in his mid 50's.  Are you imagining he's interviewing well--or do you think some AD's might be put off by the thousand yard stare?

I don't dislike the guy or anything.  He's entertaining as hell as a spectator.  He's just not head coach material.  

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Also there's a similar reason why Mike Stoops is no longer a head coach and why his brother kept him in the box not down on the field.

[Tripnsweep]

  On 9/12/2023 at 7:22 PM, ionel said:

Also there's a similar reason why Mike Stoops is no longer a head coach and why his brother kept him in the box not down on the field.

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It's also because he sucked as a coach at UofEh. 

[ionel]

  On 9/12/2023 at 7:36 PM, Tripnsweep said:

It's also because he sucked as a coach at UofEh. 

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That certainly didn't help.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

  On 9/12/2023 at 7:13 PM, steamboat_charlie said:

Any school? I don't think so.  He wasn't at the top of UNC's list, nor Stanford's, nor will he be for Princeton.  

Are we going to pretend he isn't who he is?  He's an attack dog. He's notoriously hot tempered. He's confrontational with officials, fans, and opposing wrestlers.  He hasn't been a head coach in 20 years.  The last time he was, he bailed after 3 seasons.  Some of his conduct you'd be surprised to see from a young coach in their 20's, let alone a guy in his mid 50's.  Are you imagining he's interviewing well--or do you think some AD's might be put off by the thousand yard stare?

I don't dislike the guy or anything.  He's entertaining as hell as a spectator.  He's just not head coach material.  

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I'm an Iowa hater but don't you think it's a little unfair to assume Terry hasn't matured or evolved as a coach in the last 20 years?