Iowa Drops Ball with Chittum.

[BAC]

If I'm following the facts correctly, Iowa losing Chittum is absolutely a self-inflicted wound, by choosing the Ferraris over him.

Iowa's first error was going after the Ferrari clan.  Yeah, I know, desperate times call for desperate measures.  But come on... really?  With AJ having a serious sexual assault charge against him (and burglary), and Anthony getting booted from a couple schools and two assault convictions?  Only Angelo's record is clean (though his flex on Blair's coaches at Ironman doesn't give me the warm-and-fuzzies).  Even Rutgers would think twice about the two older Ferraris, yet Iowa is chasing after them?

The second error was not reversing course when Chittum balked at Anthony Ferrari joining the team.  We know Mineo's unreliable, but he linked to a Des Moines Register article which said of Chittum the other day:  "He didn't dive into details in his brief conversation with the Register, but he allowed that he'd rather leave Iowa City than be teammates with the Ferraris."  There's your reason.  Chittum, to be fair, isn't exactly known for his program loyalty, but his position was entirely reasonable here.  We can only assume that Iowa's coaches did NOTHING, and so by this afternoon it was a done deal.  Chittum to ISU.

As a final insult, a bunch of posters on Iowa's board are now saying that Anthony got dinged by Iowa admissions the other day -- right about the time Chittum was packing his bags.  Whoops!  Looks like Tom bet on the wrong horse.  0 for 2.  AJ's still out there but I can't see Iowa's AD allowing Tom to touch him until his charges are resolved, and that outlook looks bleak. 

I'm no Iowa fan but if I were, I would be MAD.  Yeah it sucks to see PSU and Michigan nab all the top transfers (though Voinovich is a nice get), but you HAVE to know that playing footsies with the Ferrari clan is going to backfire in the long run.  And it did.  It is interesting to read the Iowa Rivals forum, where there's an all-out war between the "win at all costs" crowd and the decent Iowa fans (yes they exist) who always knew that cozying up to the Ferraris wasn't the solution to their ills. Lets hope the latter group wins out and convinces Tom to build his team the right way.

Edited May 9, 2023 by BAC

[Wrestleknownothing]

3 minutes ago, BAC said:

you HAVE to know that playing footsies with the Ferrari clan is going to backfire in the long run.  

At this point they are just wishing they could have made it to the medium run, never mind the long run.

[CHROMEBIRD]

At this point some of us are just wishing they could make it to a run, never mind the medium run. Everyone is too banged up (Spencer, Ayala, Siebrecht, Murin, Assad, Brands, Schriever, Kemerer, Clark, Marinelli, Eierman...)

Edited May 9, 2023 by CHROMEBIRD

[ionel]

So which is worse, losing Chittum or the gambling thing?

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

So which is worse, losing Chittum or the gambling thing?

Yes

[CHROMEBIRD]

The gambling thing could turn out to be a lot worse, but big picture, both are a couple of speedbumps in the road.

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Yes

Ok ... let me ask another way:

A)  Given we now have a horse sport in college does that mean college athletes can't bet on the Kentucky Derby? 

B) If attending a university that doesn't have men's soccer, does that mean athletes at that university can bet on the Premier League?

[Plasmodium]

6 minutes ago, ionel said:

Ok ... let me ask another way:

A)  Given we now have a horse sport in college does that mean college athletes can't bet on the Kentucky Derby? 

B) If attending a university that doesn't have men's soccer, does that mean athletes at that university can bet on the Premier League?

Do you live in Utah?  Is it a Sunday?

[flyingcement]

Chittum going to Iowa State makes me wonder about whether Swiderski will transfer out.  He already said he's done at 141.  Was focusing on redshirting or going 157 next year.  After the redshirt year though, there would be a logjam.  

[Wrestleknownothing]

22 minutes ago, ionel said:

Ok ... let me ask another way:

A)  Given we now have a horse sport in college does that mean college athletes can't bet on the Kentucky Derby? 

B) If attending a university that doesn't have men's soccer, does that mean athletes at that university can bet on the Premier League?

No, but there may be other jurisfictions that make the answer yes.

No. The restriction is defined at the NCAA level, not the individual school level. If the NCAA sponsors a championship in the sport, NCAA athletes may not be on that sport.

[Offthemat]

The NCAA doesn’t want athletes to have gambling debts.  

[Mr. PeanutButter]

Good riddance. Courting the Ferraris was the dumbest thing TNT tried to since deluding themselves that they could rein in Downey and "bring out the good in him" 

[Theo Brixton]

Can Chittum even beat Siebrecht? Sounds like Iowa was planning to move Kennedy down to 157 to get Griffith in the lineup. You don't need to invoke the Ferraris to realize that Chittum's spot in the lineup wasn't guaranteed. 

Believing a soundbite from Chittum on his reasons for moving is like taking Larry Lee's comments on Spencer pulling out of the US Open at face value. There may be some truth in what is being said but there is certainly more to the story here.

[ionel]

7 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

The NCAA doesn’t want athletes to have gambling debts.  

What about forum posters?

[Offthemat]

5 minutes ago, ionel said:

What about forum posters?

That’s a whole nother thing. 

[CHROMEBIRD]

11 minutes ago, Theo Brixton said:

Can Chittum even beat Siebrecht? Sounds like Iowa was planning to move Kennedy down to 157 to get Griffith in the lineup. You don't need to invoke the Ferraris to realize that Chittum's spot in the lineup wasn't guaranteed. 

Believing a soundbite from Chittum on his reasons for moving is like taking Larry Lee's comments on Spencer pulling out of the US Open at face value. There may be some truth in what is being said but there is certainly more to the story here.

Fair point. I'd take a healthy Siebrecht over Chittum at this point.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

12 hours ago, ionel said:

Ok ... let me ask another way:

A)  Given we now have a horse sport in college does that mean college athletes can't bet on the Kentucky Derby? 

B) If attending a university that doesn't have men's soccer, does that mean athletes at that university can bet on the Premier League?

Are you referring to water polo?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

10 hours ago, Offthemat said:

The NCAA doesn’t want athletes to have gambling debts.  

I don't think that's as much the issue anymore.  Sports betting does not involve unsavory underworld characters to the extent that is used to.  A lot of it is probably done online or even in casinos.  I think they are more concerned about "insider information" and/or throwing games/point shaving.

The rules may date back to the day when you could find yourself in a lot of trouble by owing some bad people lots of money, but I don't think this happens as much these days.  I know a few sports bettors and they used to use organized crime associated figures to place bets, but now they do it online or at casinos.  I imagine college kids are similar.

[AgaveMaria]

 

BAC wrote "AJ's still out there but I can't see Iowa's AD allowing Tom to touch him until his charges are resolved, and that outlook looks bleak." 

All of the clan will get into Iowa because Donald Trump, fellow sexual predator and rapist will go to bat for the older one. He will donate a million $ or so to endow a chair for "those prosecuted by haters who rely on total lies" with AJ as his poster boy.

[Wrestleknownothing]

22 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said:

He will donate .

When I knew this was parody.

[ionel]

4 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Are you referring to water polo?

oh ... yeah ... that too

[nhs67]

33 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said:

 

BAC wrote "AJ's still out there but I can't see Iowa's AD allowing Tom to touch him until his charges are resolved, and that outlook looks bleak." 

All of the clan will get into Iowa because Donald Trump, fellow sexual predator and rapist will go to bat for the older one. He will donate a million $ or so to endow a chair for "those prosecuted by haters who rely on total lies" with AJ as his poster boy.

This post right here is why you don't do drugs, gents.

If makes you more dumb.

[Caveira]

Haha …. Busted lol 

[MPhillips]

I really hope someone notifies Cassioppi's Mom...

[AgaveMaria]

21 hours ago, ionel said:

So which is worse, losing Chittum or the gambling thing?

O'come on. It isn't as if the wrestlers are selling drugs while Tom refuses to cooperate with law enforcement.