Dean v Beard

[Wrestleknownothing]

The rematch of the rumored wrestle off (supposedly Dean by 1) happens tonight in three weeks.

If I set the spread at Dean - 2.5, who ya got?

Edited November 11, 2022 by Wrestleknownothing

[nhs67]

I think Dean wins and covers.  Beard waited to leave because it was close.  The gap widened in the room and he knew it.

[flyingcement]

Huh - I thought  Penn State is against Lock Haven tonight.   And against Lehigh on December 4th.  But I'll take Beard.

[BigRedFan]

6 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Huh - I thought  Penn State is against Lock Haven tonight.   And against Lehigh on December 4th.  But I'll take Beard.

Lock Haven, Lehigh, whatevs.

[Wrestleknownothing]

7 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Huh - I thought  Penn State is against Lock Haven tonight.   And against Lehigh on December 4th.  But I'll take Beard.

You are correct. Lehigh in 3 weeks, Lock Haven tonight. Doh.

[ionel]

7 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

You are correct. Lehigh in 3 weeks, Lock Haven tonight. Doh.

sometimes the "nothing" ain't so "silent?" 

[Wrestleknownothing]

8 minutes ago, ionel said:

sometimes the "nothing" ain't so "silent?" 

And sometimes it shouts from the mountain top.

[bnwtwg]

16 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

You are correct. Lehigh in 3 weeks, Lock Haven tonight. Doh.

Soooo are you going to open the betting so I can get in before the line moves? 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Dean pins Lehigh's Morrison. I think Beard ducked him.

[gimpeltf]

57 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Dean pins Lehigh's Morrison. I think Beard ducked him.

Did we get another transfer that I hadn't heard of yet?

[nhs67]

8 hours ago, gimpeltf said:

Did we get another transfer that I hadn't heard of yet?

You missed the joke.

[PortaJohn]

19 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

If I set the spread at Dean - 2.5, who ya got?

Spread should be 1.5.  This match is a true tossup and will be insanely close and boring

[nhs67]

3 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Spread should be 1.5.  This match is a true tossup and will be insanely close and boring

If the over under on Dean slamming him in that bow and arrow is 0.5 then I am taking the over.

[PortaJohn]

4 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

If the over under on Dean slamming him in that bow and arrow is 0.5 then I am taking the over.

There will be no bow & arrow.  It'll be a scoreless 1st.  Escape 2nd.  Escape 3rd then takedown by Dean and the spread's determined on whether Beard escapes or just gives up.  1.5 spread

[nhs67]

8 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

There will be no bow & arrow.  It'll be a scoreless 1st.  Escape 2nd.  Escape 3rd then takedown by Dean and the spread's determined on whether Beard escapes or just gives up.  1.5 spread

Fake news.  Dean destroys him.  He didn't just leave because he had to sit another year.  Dean jumped another level.

[PortaJohn]

16 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Fake news.  Dean destroys him.  He didn't just leave because he had to sit another year.  Dean jumped another level.

Not what I heard.  

[nhs67]

10 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Not what I heard.  

I also did not hear that.  I am speculating as a Dean fanboy 

[PortaJohn]

Just now, nhs67 said:

I also did not hear that.  I am speculating as a Dean fanboy 

Fair Enough.  I'll be cheering for him too.  

[Wrestleknownothing]

37 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

There will be no bow & arrow.  It'll be a scoreless 1st.  Escape 2nd.  Escape 3rd then takedown by Dean and the spread's determined on whether Beard escapes or just gives up.  1.5 spread

If I was running a casino I would definitely adjust the line lower at this point as more "money" has come in on Beard than Dean. I chose -2.5 initially because we have the presumption of a wrestleoff having occured, plus the rumor of a 1 point Dean win in the presumed wrestleoff. Then add in a Dean NC and you have to go higher. One guy won and one guy didn't. That has to count for something. And you can minimize the win by talking about favorable calls, but you cannot eliminate the win. Sure, we have the example of Cassar who didn't win the 197 spot against Rasheed, but then followed it up with a NC that included two wins against a generational talent to suggest that Beard can do the same. But until it happens, it hasn't happened.

Anyway, that was my reasoning for -2.5. But as I say, if I was running a casino I would drop that to -2 or maybe -1.5 based on current betting.

[1032004]

On 11/11/2022 at 12:31 PM, nhs67 said:

I think Dean wins and covers.  Beard waited to leave because it was close.  The gap widened in the room and he knew it.

Doesn’t Cael also have a history of not really caring about wrestleoffs?  Probably unlikely he sits a national champ…

[nhs67]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Doesn’t Cael also have a history of not really caring about wrestleoffs?  Probably unlikely he sits a national champ…

I never said wrestleoff.

[1032004]

1 minute ago, nhs67 said:

I never said wrestleoff.

Or really any in-room competition for that matter.  He knows performance against a guy you see in practice everyday doesn’t always translate to more actual success

[nhs67]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Or really any in-room competition for that matter.  He knows performance against a guy you see in practice everyday doesn’t always translate to more actual success

Well also like you said: Sit a NC?  Not likely unless they are seriously hampered by i jury or getting blown out of the water in the practice room and in actual performances.

[dragit]

If it were March, Dean big favorite.  First semester, Dean slight favorite. 

[IfYouAintFirstYoureLast]

On 11/11/2022 at 12:31 PM, nhs67 said:

I think Dean wins and covers.  Beard waited to leave because it was close.  The gap widened in the room and he knew it.

I don't think it necessarily means the gap widened. I think it means the PSU chose a guy and Beard knew they wouldn't switch back to him.

Also Dean doesn't have gas tank issues vs competition. Beard does.