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[flyingcement]

4 hours ago, gimpeltf said:

Mizzou- Conor Brown 133 transferred twice (SDSU, Wisc)

I think he is finished with eligibility (I have Zeke Seltzer as starter next year). But otherwise good call out 

[gimpeltf]

1 hour ago, flyingcement said:

I think he is finished with eligibility (I have Zeke Seltzer as starter next year). But otherwise good call out 

Didn't know which year you were discussing

[Antitroll2828]

On 5/10/2023 at 10:21 PM, ionel said:

Doesn't Alvarez only have 1 year of eligibility?

 

On 5/10/2023 at 10:30 PM, nhs67 said:

It would appear so.

Each year he has represented Rutgers in a dual.

He has 2 years left 

[nhs67]

4 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

 

He has 2 years left 

How?  He has represented Rutgers in a dual four years.

2020 - 16 duals

2021 (free year) - 3 duals (late in the season too)

2022 - 8 duals

2023 - 8 duals

How in the hell does he get six attached seasons?

[1032004]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

How?  He has represented Rutgers in a dual four years.

2020 - 16 duals

2021 (free year) - 3 duals (late in the season too)

2022 - 8 duals

2023 - 8 duals

How in the hell does he get six attached seasons?

Can he get a medical for 2022?  Didn’t wrestle past 12/29

[flyingcement]

 

[Formally140]

38 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

 

Not surprising. More interested in what madrigal does 

[nhs67]

10 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Can he get a medical for 2022?  Didn’t wrestle past 12/29

Even if he didn't wrestle past 12/29, he wrestled eight (8) duals - actually half their wins as a team.  Rutgers went 16-5 as a team and in eight of those wins, Sammy Alvarez wrestled.

[nhs67]

9 hours ago, flyingcement said:

 

Michigan needs a 149lber and Woodley (who I saw over the weekend did say he was 'done done' btw) was there last year.

I bet he goes to Michigan.

[1032004]

53 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Even if he didn't wrestle past 12/29, he wrestled eight (8) duals - actually half their wins as a team.  Rutgers went 16-5 as a team and in eight of those wins, Sammy Alvarez wrestled.

The rule is 30% right?  If it’s “dates” and not competitions I think he qualifies.  He only wrestled in 5 “dates” out of 19 (counting multi-day competitions like B10’s and NCAA’s as 1).

But I think the bigger question that I don’t recall is was he actually injured or could he just not make weight?

[nhs67]

Just now, 1032004 said:

The rule is 30% right?  If it’s “dates” and not competitions I think he qualifies.  He only wrestled in 5 “dates” out of 19 (counting multi-day competitions like B10’s and NCAA’s as 1).

But I think the bigger question that I don’t recall is was he actually injured or could he just not make weight?

That is the rule now.  Was that the rule then?  Would they apply a 'now' rule to then?  Aside for that, all fair points.

It would be cool if he had two years left and at his proper weight, I just don't know that it seem fair.  He wrestled for the team four years already and wasn't able to go further due to well known weight issues.  I guess what I am saying is that I wouldn't be upset if they didn't grant him a 2nd year left.  He's been wrestling.

[1032004]

4 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

That is the rule now.  Was that the rule then?  Would they apply a 'now' rule to then?  Aside for that, all fair points.

It would be cool if he had two years left and at his proper weight, I just don't know that it seem fair.  He wrestled for the team four years already and wasn't able to go further due to well known weight issues.  I guess what I am saying is that I wouldn't be upset if they didn't grant him a 2nd year left.  He's been wrestling.

I thought 30% is what it's been for a little while, but could be wrong.

[nhs67]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

I thought 30% is what it's been for a little while, but could be wrong.

You also could be correct.  In my day there weren't all these exceptions, so to say.

[nhs67]

Also, as far as Michigan goes, there are a few 149lb options on the market right now.  I just don't think they are going to go for a 'Jamison' type get because they have both Mantanona brothers, Adams, and Gilcher coming that should be the 149-165 gents for a few years.  The younger Mantanona could be the 141lber, too.

I could and would welcome being wrong, though.

[Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan]

On 5/10/2023 at 9:32 PM, flyingcement said:

Good point and probably solved. Carter Young 141 in 2025 with Cael Hughes 133

I think Alveraz has 2 years left tho. So Someone will still be sitting out 2 years if Tegan goes there; but I still believe Tegan ends up there. 

[nhs67]

1 hour ago, Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan said:

I think Alveraz has 2 years left tho. So Someone will still be sitting out 2 years if Tegan goes there; but I still believe Tegan ends up there. 

Where are you and @Antitroll2828 getting two years left, though?  I am not disputing it, just curious since he competed for Rutgers for four seasons already.

[Corby]

4 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Where are you and @Antitroll2828 getting two years left, though?  I am not disputing it, just curious since he competed for Rutgers for four seasons already.

With a RS and a Covid year guys will get 6 years to compete in 4. Sammy has done 4 years in college. He has 2 more years of eligibility 

[gimpeltf]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

The rule is 30% right?  If it’s “dates” and not competitions I think he qualifies.  He only wrestled in 5 “dates” out of 19 (counting multi-day competitions like B10’s and NCAA’s as 1).

But I think the bigger question that I don’t recall is was he actually injured or could he just not make weight?

It's out of 16 actually but it still rounds up to 5 dates. Assuming the Matmen Open was counted as one date (and likely he only wrestled his 3 bouts in one day) he would be fine.

[1032004]

9 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

It's out of 16 actually but it still rounds up to 5 dates. Assuming the Matmen Open was counted as one date (and likely he only wrestled his 3 bouts in one day) he would be fine.

Do B10's and NCAA's not count?   And we must have a discrepancy of one other somewhere

[nhs67]

58 minutes ago, Corby said:

With a RS and a Covid year guys will get 6 years to compete in 4. Sammy has done 4 years in college. He has 2 more years of eligibility 

No, I understand all that.

It still doesn't explain how he wrestled attached for four seasons and still has two to go.

He started out the gate as a true frosh.  He didn't redshirt at all, at least not properly.  So the only way he could have two years remaining is if he got a medical redshirt approved.  If he does, I get the two years remaining.

When you factor in the 30% rule, 5/16 = 31.25% which is greater than 30% so that is where I am getting hung up there.

[nhs67]

41 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

It's out of 16 actually but it still rounds up to 5 dates. Assuming the Matmen Open was counted as one date (and likely he only wrestled his 3 bouts in one day) he would be fine.

5 ÷ 16 = 0.3125, though.

[gimpeltf]

33 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Do B10's and NCAA's not count?   And we must have a discrepancy of one other somewhere

No. It is 16 dates of allowed competition prior to conferences but it is 16+1 in the computation for hardship which rounds up to 6.

[1032004]

42 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

No. It is 16 dates of allowed competition prior to conferences but it is 16+1 in the computation for hardship which rounds up to 6.

I’m not sure I’m following, you’re saying in general teams are only allowed 16 dates of competition prior to conferences?

[gimpeltf]

41 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I’m not sure I’m following, you’re saying in general teams are only allowed 16 dates of competition prior to conferences?

Yup. They are allowed to take a couple (I think 2) consecutive dates of competition and count them as one for this purpose.

[flyingcement]

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